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Published: Wednesday, Sept. 28 2011 10:48 p.m. MDT

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Fairytale
Heber City, UT

Sounds legit to me, thats too bad for the kid who wants to lighten his load and travel time to and from school. I guess we will all learn to pick the School we want to play for when we are Freshman since the system doesn't seem to work for those who are legit. It bogles me how an education at a good school like waterford would be exchanged for an education at a school that isn't going to work the boy as hard mentally, but still wants to play basketball with one of the best programs in the State. Maybe Coach Haws should got to Waterford then the boy could of got the best of both worlds!

just-a-fan
Bountiful, UT

The UHSAA could be denying transfers every day, but it doesn't happen. It amazes me how many transfers, students playing for schools outside their boundaries happen in Utah. It's a joke. UHSAA does a great job, but it seriously would be great to see local teams built with in-district athletes instead of teams being picked up all over the place.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

If he was 5'7", the "rationale" for the transfer would be "immaterial".

Neighborhood kid goes to neighborhood school.

Done deal.

Unless, of course he was a 5'7" "jet" who could also dunk...

KSDBN
Murray, UT

I am not a Lone Peak fan but I think it is ridiculous that a kid that lives in the boundary can't play for that high school team. What is backwards about this whole thing is that the UHSAA makes the kid transfer BEFORE he can apply for hardship...So the family is at the mercy of the "3 man panel" whether he participates or not.

loverofthegame
Provo, UT

let the kid play!!! If this effects his ability to receive a better scholarship his whole life will be changed for the negative because of these council members. That is just SAD!

aunt lucy
Looneyville, UT

so does the kid get to play basketball this year?

TJ
Eagle Mountain, UT

Based on the article, I see no reason he should not be able to play for LP. It sounds like some sour grapes on the side of those who have not been able to flex their muscles as much as they wanted to in the past. The schedule alone should be justification to let this kid play. Very poor decision.

Sampson
Lindon, UT

There is much more to the story. Did you notice the absence of remarks from the folks at Waterford? If the press won't show both sides, then all one can do is draw conclusions from limited facts. Bottom line, you can't have it both ways. He went to Waterfor to play hoops. Suddenly, after playing the summer with LP kids, he wants to transfer. I agree with the UHSAA.

HS Sports Guru
West Jordan, UT

First of all, Marty Haws is one of the greatest guys you could ever meet. What he is saying in this article is true about him not recruiting Mika but everything else about the transfer is a bit fishy. The parents of the transfer should have known from the day he entered Waterford that his schedule would be demanding and difficult. There is a reason it costs so much to go there. It also seems a bit fishy that the missing puzzle piece of Lone Peak is a big man to compete against the Jordan Loveridge's of the state and him being allowed to transfer would only look bad for Quincy. It's only fair to everyone to not allow this tranfer to happen. Good job UHSAA

4BS
St George, UT

Ridiculous !!!! Let the kid play, he lives in the boundaries. That should be sufficient. UHSSA is on a power trip.

Still Blue after all these years
Kaysville, UT

I don't live in UT county or know anyone involved. But as soon as I read that the kid lives in the Lone Peak geographic boundary, I thought that he should have been eligible to play, especially "transferring" from a private school outside the boundaries. I he lived in another school boundary, then I would completely understand the denial. But alas, no, the "adults" have once again kept someone from an opportunity to succeed in life.

HS Sports Guru
West Jordan, UT

You are exactly right "Still Blue" adults did keep someone from an opportunity to succeed in life..... his Parents by taking him out of a great private school and puting him in a public school for basketball reasons.

JMHO
Southern, UT

The comment that the "adults" have kept an opportunity away from this athlete is misleading since it was the "adults" that sent him to the 2-A school to win a state title to begin with. Now they have a chance to have him win a 5-A state title and the grass seems greener. The "adults" that are messing with this kid just so happen to also be his parents. They chose a school at first entry and now want to change. This is exactly the reason the rule was put in place.

binghamalum
South Jordan, UT

He was playing at Waterford, even though he is From Lone PEAK, so there for he just cant decide to go to Lone Peak this year and Be eligible, I believe its a right call because your saying a kid that is in South Jordan going to Juan Diego, he grows 5 inches, gets hopes or just all of a sudden throws 90 mph and wants to now go to school at Bingham because he lives in there, do you people think he should be able to play right away??

If the parents knew the kid was going to be a basketball player, why the heck did you ever make him go to Waterford, oh I know, he could play early on in his playing career, where he would not of played at Lone Peak, but now he knows he can play with these boys, so its time to go back to public school a block away?

what makes you think this is ok? you cant choose a school, then go back to the one u live by because its not convenient for you, pay the consequences for you wanting to play as a fresman at 2A Waterford.

williary
Kearns, UT

Makes no sense at all. Hundreds of high school athletes in Utah have transferred to schools outside of their boundaries, just to play sports. Or lived with a relative for a year in those boundaries, just to play sports. This kid wants to play for the school he should be playing, isn't that what makes the most sense?

Letting kids play outside of their boundaries is killing Utah high school sports. I'm all for a kid wanting to play where he lives. That should be the requirement, across the board.

binghamalum
South Jordan, UT

It does make sense, why should he be allowed to play right away when he left that town to play at small 2A school, so now he is older and alot better so its time to get back on the best 5A team in state, because technically he lives there??

Yes kids transfer all over the place, but why do they get to choose one year that this now works out better for me being back in my home town, when we all know its not just to go back to LP, Waterford is a way better academic school and chance to get seen because he was doing 18ppg and 10 boards, he would maybe have 5 ppg this year at Lone Peak with his team, so its his own fault and parents for ever letter him go to Waterford when he was already in line to play at Lone Peak if he was that good, but maybe as a freshy he was not that good is my bet, and now he grew and is mature and showed good stuff in 2A, so lets allow him to transfer and play because of that? ha

Thucydides
Herriman, UT

The ignorance of the issues facing Utah high schools and athletic-related transfers, by those commenting on this story, is nothing less than mind-boggling.

plyxply
SLC, UT

here's how this will play out....he will get in touch with another un-named Lone Peak athletic star, find out all you have to do is show up with an attorney and the threat of a lawsuit will immediately change the minds of the folks at UHSAA. He will then be allowed to play based on "new evidence" that the attorney somehow brought to light.
If that doesn't work he can always try the race card, seems like that one always works too.
In another totally unrelated story the UHSAA is in the black financially.

Thinking Deeper
Lindon, UT

Bad rule - bad ruling. It should be about what is best for the kid. The UHSAA current transfer policy is too restrictive. Situations change. Kids mature and need to change. Sampson has a good point the other side of this story is not reported. I am a booster of a small private and deal with these issues all the time. Private schools take kids who can't make the 9th grade teams coach them and train them - they get a growth spurt and some success their sophomore year and feel like they need to transfer to the Lone Peaks and Timpviews of the world...Sometimes it is great for the kid sometimes not and they move back... Isn't that what is called free agency? A kid should be able to move between a private and his public boundary school at will. An important nuance to this story... He transferred to Lone Peak and then played for the Lone Peak AAU team. Rob and Kevin you blew this one bad...

Brighton Alum
Salt Lake City, UT

binghamalum is 100% correct...it makes perfect sense. When you play any sport for any USHAA participating school--public or private-- you establish your athletic eligibilty at said school. You even have to sign papers acknowledging this fact. If you decide to leave a school once you have established this eligibilty you have to sit out one year. The fact that he lives in the boundry of Lone Peak make no differnce. He played for Waterford and established eligibility there. Everyone with knowledge of this transfer knew this outcome was a real possibilty and said several times they would be ok if this was the outcome because basketball was not the determining factor. This kid already has college offers and he will get to play his senior year as well as the summer recruiting period. This will not harm his basketball future and he should have to abide by the rules...and saying that others have gotten away with similar transfers in the past is no reason that he should too.

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