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Published: Tuesday, Sept. 27 2011 9:36 a.m. MDT

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Anti Bush-Obama
Washington, DC

Our leaders in both parties are robbing us blind and laughing in all of your faces because you think they are actually trying to create jobs.

Anti Bush-Obama
Washington, DC

The top 1 percent are actually offshore bankers that rule the world.

Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

"My Fellow Americans."

We must stop "stop coddling the super-rich," and increase the tax burden for the country's billionaires. US Government does not have powers outside of Washington DC. The federal district is therefore not a part of any U.S. state. It was formed from land along the Potomac River donated by the states of Maryland and Virginia however, the Virginia portion was returned by Congress in 1846. Congress has an obligation to oversee how DC spends its money because "federal taxpayer dollars fund a large portion of the District's budget." Many people readily agree with that statement. It seems to make sense. Of course the federal government pays for the operations of the federal district. This argument is also often cited by opponents of DC voting rights, who say that DC residents shouldn't have a vote in Congress because they are recipients of so much federal government largesse. These billionaires own America, and the law makers in DC. These people run us, and, everything we do. They control our life. The Koch Brother's rich victory over the middle class is nearly complete, soon there will be none of us left. If we let them, that is.

jsf
Centerville, UT

"For the earth is full, and there is enough and to spare; yea, I prepared all things, and have given unto the children of men to be agents unto themselves.
Therefore, if any man shall take of the abundance which I have made, and impart not his portion, according to the law of my gospel, unto the poor and the needy, he shall, with the wicked, lift up his eyes in hell, being in torment." Midwest Mom please show me in this scripture, were it says the government is to impart my portion. It does not say the law of the marxist nation. And claiming you are coming from a lds background, you do understand there is no righteousness in being forced to live the law of the gospel. Kind of, was that not Satan's plan. And if you think the government is the best distributer of wealth, then how is that Johnson's war on poverty going?

DeltaFoxtrot
West Valley, UT

I honestly believe it will take open rebellion to set this country on the right path again. All other efforts are doomed to fail.

VST
Bountiful, UT

Per the Constitution, the Government does not own or have an automatic right to the income or property of the wealthy. Having the rich pay more in taxes is nothing more than income redistribution and that is one of the basic tenants of socialism. We are not a socialistic society; we are a capitalistic society.

Quit trying to blame the rich for becoming richer. That is their prerogative and it is not yours or the Government's responsibility to take it from them for the benefit others not so blessed.

jsf
Centerville, UT

Chuck, why is it, in your tirades about the rich and famous you never mention, the richest american, Bill Gates, no 2 richest american, Warren Buffet, no3 Larry Ellison, no5 George Soros. As you say their "rich victory over the middle class is nearly complete." The fact you don't shows your rants are one sided and without any real credibility.

Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

We the Middle-class people of this Nation must "stop coddling the ultra super-rich," and increase the tax burden for the country's billionaires. Get rid of off shore tax safe havens, put tax cheats in prison, and, "TAKE BACK AMERICA" as we knwn it. The ultra rich love the Republicans that have worked together with them for the last 40 years to de-regulate the multinational corporations. They refuse to get rid of NAFTA. Closed their eyes to importing illegal cheap labor that will not abide by our tax and labor rates which forces unfair labor competition. Subsidize corporations that outsource their companies manufacturing to other countries, forcing competition with third world labor rates. They keep us arguing with each other on social issues to keep our hate of the other side and support of our own party when the whole bunch of them are busy neglecting our country, crushing our middle class and giving unlimited lobbying power to the corporations, so they can benefit themselves even further. They have controlled inflation of our income, but let healthcare, transportation, travel, housing costs skyrocket out of affordability. This makes the old "Honest Living" attainable to fewer and fewer people.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Envy, envy, envy! Take away the rich and the poor goes on a crush diet. The rich engineers, dentists, business owners, doctors, etc, didn't cause our economic problems. Its corrupt leaders who were voted in by:

A. the rich
B. the middle class
C. the poor
D. all groups of Americans who lack common sense.

VST
Bountiful, UT

"I say this as I read all of the rhetoric about Class Warfare, the rift that is being created between economic middle and lower class and as the President said those millionaires and billionaires."

"The real rift in philosophy though is do you want the Government to create jobs and stimulate the economy or do you want Americas small business to be the engine of growth?

"Economic Success has somehow become the new boogie man; some in the Democratic Party are now casting about for enemies and business leaders and anyone who has achieved success in terms of rank or fiscal success is being cast as a bad guy in a black hat. This is counter to the American Dream and is really turning off so many people that love America and basically carry our country on their back by paying taxes and by employing people and creating GDP.

"This is a bad move all designed by some pollster who said this is the way to get votes during the re-election. It should be stopped. We should be healing and creating teams NOT dividing and pitting people against one another."

Ted Leonsis
A Major Democratic Donor

Voice of Reason
Layton, UT

I am so tired of the left focusing on the "gap" between rich and poor...that sort of naked class envy is exactly what led to the world's rash of Communist Revolutions in the 20th Century, and we all know how well that worked out.

It is far more telling to compare the actual incomes of the poor to inflation, to see how well their actual incomes have grown over time. In the Evil Capitalist United States, the poorest half of incomes grew faster - yes, faster - than inflation in 2/3 of the years since 1987, beating inflation by an average of 1.34% every year. Is that great? No - but that's orders of magnitude than how the poor fared under Communist/Socialist economies in the same time period, when inflation was so high that virtually everyone's income lost to inflation.

In fact, GOP Congresses (Congress holds the purse strings) the poorest half of incomes grew over 2.5% faster than inflation...under Democrat Congresses, it was barely over zero (0.4%). Yes, GOP policies have tended to benefit the wealthy...and the poor, far more than Democrat policies have. At least that's what history says.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

bohu,

You still haven't reconciled "a nation's resources belong to its people" with "rich people should pay for what you and I use"

Those are two separate thoughts and you still havent given even a slightest good reason for the connection.

A nation's resources blah blah blah.

Fine.

So why should my rich neighbor have to pay for what I use?

bluh,

When are we going shopping?

You still haven't answered.

When are we going car shopping?

Oh, and that travel you have to Las Vegas?

Bad news my friend:

I just booked a vacation to Hawaii. And I told my travel agent to bill you for the majority of my trip. You make more money.

Thanks!

libertarian
Cedar City, UT

LDSlib, You can't be serious! "Redistrubution" of wealth is nothing short of theft. You must have never actually worked for anything in your life and must have never read the 10 Commandments. Even moderate "wealth" comes from taking risks and working hard. All value comes from human effort, what gives you a "right" to someone else's effort? Just a bunch of socialist drivel. Are there lots of rich people who "cheated" to get rich? Probably, but two wrongs don't make a right.

lket
Bluffdale, UT

the countries money went to the wars, and the rich made money and still are. lets get some back. and no one said it was going to the poor its going to pay the bills much of which is still going back to the rich. they own all the big companies the military buy things from so why cant anyone see this. when the govenment spends the rich profit the most.

DeltaFoxtrot
West Valley, UT

@VST: If the rich's prerogative is to become richer at any cost that returns us to a feudalistic society. Kiss your rights, freedoms and property goodbye. You'll be slaving away for the man and maybe, just maybe, make enough to put a roof over your head. Believe me when I say these people could care less if you lived or died. Is that really the kind of life you want to live? Because that's what they want the world to become.

LDS Aerospace Engineer
Farmington, UT

worf | 3:10 p.m. Sept. 27, 2011
Mcallen, TX
Envy, envy, envy! Take away the rich and the poor goes on a crush diet. The rich engineers,...

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FYI - Engineers in Utah make $17-$35 per hour.

An inexperienced high school kid
[no wife, no kids, no house, no car payment, and no student loans]
flipping burgers make $10.

I would not consider $17-$35 per hour "Middle Class" anymore, much MUCH closer to the poverty levels.

My friend - the Doctor - same story.
He said the only Doctors getting ahead these days are the Plastic Surgeons.

Anti Government
Alpine, UT

Fairtax.org

The rich may be rich but the reason we have soooooo many poor people dependent on the government is because we have a political party who develops and nurtures a political system to have as many people dependent on the govt as possible.

I mean are you too stupid to realize that a bunch of independent self-sufficient people don't need much government?

Who needs a government? Who needs govt services?

The poor obviously and the democrats (and some republicans too) literally want as many people dependent on govt as possible. Why? So they can stand up in front of you during their campaigns and tell you "what they are going to give/do for you".

If you are earning your own way what do you need from them besides basic infrastructure and defense?

If you are poor you need everything....which is just they way they want it.

You people who are demonizing the rich and demanding their money to "redistribute to the poor" have been deceived and are being used for politically corrupt purposes and power.

No matter what govt has they always spend alot more. Racking up debt. Very revealing of their true intentions.

Duh.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

What I find most humorus is that Paris Hilton apparently works harder and smarter than all of the conservatives on this web site, not to mention all the jobs she has created.

Dart Thrower
Ogden, UT

It's only warfare if there are two sides and you fight back

mcclark
Salt Lake City, UT

RE Rifleman "The rich have it and the poor want it. Only problem is that the poor arent willing to put forth the same effort that the rich did who earned it" What an arrogant ignorant thing to say.

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