Thanks to DSB for the helpful clarifications. I hope the rest of what I posted
is more accurate. You don't have to like anything about the NBA, and nothing
compels anyone to follow it, but the "grouchy old guy" response to
everything connected to the League gets REAL tiresome.
To Mark B - I think you're a little harsh on Rifleman. In this case, since the
work stoppage occurred with the expiration of the negotiated union contract,
both sides are impeding the other's ability to make money by not giving in to
the demands put before them. Since the stoppage was triggered by
the expiration of the contract, it technically falls to the owners to facilitate
the legal operation of their businesses. So, technically it is certainly a
lockout until the legality is rectified that allows them to operate according to
the law. If they hire non-union players and try to make a season, then it's
clearly a lockout in the very spirit of the word as well.However,
the players and union are rejecting the demands of the owners, and either
cannot legally play, or will not play without another negotiated union contract.
In that respect it's quite similar to a strike because they hold some very
skilled and valuable cards that will cost the owners dearly if they don't
capitulate on some demands.Anyway, calling it a strike may be
technically incorrect, but it's certainly not the inaccurate representation you
seem to imply.
Whenever DN puts the letters "NBA" into a story title you can depend
as surely as the sun rising on postings that go: "I hate the NBA and all it
stands for. I vowed to quit watching when the Celtics signed Bill Russell, and
haven't turned on my Crosley TV set to see a game since, let alone actually
attended a game, Even so, I am posting this to declare how much I don't care,
and hope we can all NOT care together. Doggone young tall people got no RESPECT
these days." BTW, would someone point out to Rifleman the difference
between a "strike" and a "lockout"? It will help his
credibility when he posts tomorrow.
There's no disaster here .... especially in Salt Lake City where spectators put
more effort into getting to the game than the play put into playing the game.
Let the players strike until they get hungry enough to come back.
Getting rid of pro basketball, unfortunately, won't solve the World's hunger
problems. The economy in Utah can be stimulated with a good basketball season.
There are going to be more families in Utah that go to bed hungry because it's
hard to find jobs. The Utah Jazz creates a lot of jobs for Utahns. Not to
mention players spend a lot of money here in Utah.
Seriously? The world economy is on the edge of disaster. As many as two billion
of us are malnourished. Basketball? It's inconsequential, at best. Players
should have to get off season jobs to support their basketball habit.
This has been coming for years... everyone with half a brain could see it.
There is plenty of greed blame to go around. The owners allowed the escalation
of salaries trying to buy themselves a championship. Other teams felt compelled
to follow along. And the players? Well, the players took what what given them
and now they all have a grossly distorted view of their actual market value.
Even mediocre players get paid like superstars now days. As a huge basketball
fan, I hope the NBA cancels their season this year. I'd love to see the grossly
bloated NBA ballon deflate and come back down to earth. Salaries need to drop,
ticket prices need to drop - otherwise, this league is in long-term trouble.
Mark my words.
Derek Fisher? Not sure why this guy is the Players representative.In NFL
lockout Brady, Brees, Manning, etc were player reps and things got done. Why is
a guy who barely has talent to be in the league the head of negotiating? I know
some of the NBA superstars lack education, but there are players better than
fisher with a whole lot more intelligence.
Save your money and your time. I hope the NBA goes away for good. Instead of
watching someone else have fun maybe everyone can go out and get some exercise
of their own.We have other things to have community pride about
instead of the Jazz or some small group of individuals. We can represent
ourselves.Utah is the Place!!!
A Sports Illustrated article recently stated that, despite an average salary of
5.85 million dollars per year, 60% of these athletes will be broke within 5
years of retirement. Sad. They should have themselves and their children set
forever. Instead, they flounder.
After the Jazz made it clear they were backing Deron Williams and NOT Jerry
Sloan I now could care less about the Jazz and even less about the NBA.
The NBA is in decline, but the owners don't seem to know it. If the lockout
continues it will be bad for the NBA and bad for the Jazz. The Jazz misses the
marketing skills of Larry Miller. I predict a continued lockout will see the
selling of the Jazz elsewhere (where maybe their name will match their
community). I don't want to see them go, but I'm not sure it would be much of a
loss for me as a fan (but it would be a big hit for the vendors and
@Rand you got that right I couldn't care less no basketball ? yippie !
Oh dear. In a world where Somali children starve to death and whole nations are
in the grip of terror and ignorance and poverty and disease, it's so
discouraging to think our poor NBA players are suffering, too. Quelle tragedie!
It always sickened me as a teacher to see people like Karl Malone brag that,
"I don't have to pay no taxes. None at all. Just gotta have a good
accountant."That from a guy who was paid more to play one
basketball game that I earned in a full year.Get rid of the NBA. I
for one wouldn't miss it a bit.
I can live without it, but can the players who make gazillions?
Millionaire athletes bickering with millionaire franchise owners over how to
divvy up the largesse. Oh, to have their problems! Why should any of us back in
the real world care about this?