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Published: Thursday, Sept. 22 2011 8:26 p.m. MDT

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ouisc
Farmington, UT

Every once in awhile, President Obama gets one right!

Open Mind
Taylorsville, UT

No Child Left Behind, first implimented by George Bush as he stood as governer of Texas, improved literacy levels among fourth graders by 30% in the state, it also lowered crime rate among young adults. Although it was unsuccessful on a national level, it was on the right track with good motives. With some reform, not abolishment, it would improve public schools.

Seek to understand
Sandy, UT

NCLB has done more to improve schools than any other policy (state or federal) in 2 decades. It IS time for a "tweak", as was planned with the reauthorization that became possible in 2007, and which original implementers realized would need to happen.

Congress can't get it done, and that is the problem. The good news is, they didn't just throw out NCLB as soon as they had the chance, because they also know it is the first real accountability for schools and it has resulted in sweeping changes in districts across our nation that have improved teaching and learning for kids.

The popular response to NCLB has been predictable - that people hate it - but only if you don't understand it and what it has done for kids. People generally hate accountability and it has finally required schools to be accountable and change what is not working or give parents options.

The school choice provisions in NCLB are a key part of the establishment's hatred of it - they require that parents can get tutoring from an outside vendor or transfer at the district's expense if the district school their child attends is lousy. Districts HATE that, but it works.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'NCLB has done more to improve schools than any other policy (state or federal) in 2 decades.' - Seek to understand | 8:06 a.m. Sept. 23, 2011

Example?

Because you cannot just SAY something is so. To be valid, you would have to SUPPORT a fact, not just claim one.

Let's look at the RESULTS of 'No Child Left Behind'...

*''Run like the mob': US school cheating scandal details emerge' - By DORIE TURNER - AP - Published by MSNBC - 07/16/11

'A new Georgia state report details the nation's largest-ever cheating scandal...(sic)
Administrators pressured to maintain high scores under the federal No Child Left Behind law punished or fired those who reported anything amiss and created a culture of "fear, intimidation and retaliation,"

Great 'success' story by Republican leadership.

I thought Republicans wanted LESS goverment? But the pass 'No Child Left Behind' & the Patriot Act when they controlled the Senate House and Presidency from 2000-2006.

In light OF the massive Georgia cheating scandal that RESULTED from 'No Child Left Behind', I support Obama in this.

Anyone who does not can explain why they SUPPORT something that has such a negative effect on our school system.

KM
Cedar Hills, UT

Pagan

Its not that the republicans want less federal influence in their lives its that the 'progressive' republicans like Bush that desire to expand the power of the federal government. Just like the progressive democrats they will stop at nothing to give away individual freedom for the collective power.
Schools should be under the direction of the states, not the emperial federal control.

KM
Cedar Hills, UT

besides...When dealing with Obama one always has to ask the question, what does this have to do with unions? How will unions benefit from the Change that Obama proposes? Remember who pays the bills for obamas elections. Remember the Chicago way.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

KM,

Despite the claim of 'conservative' and 'progressive' Republicans, that party voted in George W. Bush...

twice.

While the Republican party ruled the House, Senate and Presidency, almost exclusive goverment control from 2000-2006 they doubled the national debt, unemployment, started two wars, expanded goverment authority with TSA, Patriot Act, TARP and 'No Child Left Behind.'

and you want to compare them to the ficticious 'progressive' democrats?

Of which, you can give no example.

It is the Republican voting record that makes me vote Democrat.

But, after living in Utah, I realize it's residents will justify voting Republican, not mattter...

what. They. Do.

metamoracoug
metamora, IL

It doesn't happen often, but I agree with Mr. Obama on this point.

Unlike other posts above, however, control of schools should be local, not state and definitely not federal. A recent article in the Economist highlighted the fact that throwing money at schools does not provide a good education. No nation on earth spends more per capita on its students than the US. Yet, our students rank 17th overall in reading, 32nd in math and 23 in science.

This is largely an issue of who is controlling the school. Right now, state and federal mandates are the controlling force and we continue to dumb down the standards. One of the most important factors in successful schools is demonstrably local control -- when parents, teachers, and administrators set the standards.

Hawkyo
SYRACUSE, UT

Metamora, you hit the nail on the head. If your statement about the Us spending more on students than any other country is accurate, then why aren't we top of the list? Lack of accountability! My gripe with NCLB is that while it made teachers, schools, and districts be accountable,(not a bad thing) it ignored any parent or student involvement. I can teach, reteach and guide my students til I'm blue in the face, but if they don't care, or want to learn, according to NCLB it was my fault. Personal responsibility of students and parents is still paramount in education. Teaching is NOT easy. (anyone who says differently is selling something) However, it is made infinitely easier when parents, students and teachers work collaboratively.

metamoracoug
metamora, IL

Hawko:

Sounds like you are on the front lines! Kudos to you for braving the classroom!

I'm essentially quoting from the article in the Economist regarding the US spending the most. I trust this journal so I suspect it is accurate.

KM
Cedar Hills, UT

Pagan

You and I and all the rest of WE Americans are pawns in some sort of political/banking conglomerates game. If WE didn't vote for Bush, then who was the alternative? Gore or Kerry. Need I say more?

K
Mchenry, IL

Ted Kennedy and another Democrat actually wrote the bill and it was passed bipartisan. Bush happened to enter the WH to sign it that year. Why is it always Bush and republican bashing when talking of No Child?

If you aren't willing to take on the challenge why go into teaching? It's been around for years and so many new young teachers are frustrated when there was no surprise this is how things are.

Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

Good for Obama that's rolling back "No Child Left Behind".

The scope of this GOP power grab is unprecedented. Just a few weeks ago, it was unthinkable that Republicans would actually try to rig the Electoral College. Now we know their arrogance knows no bounds. This is Republican legislators declaring that they don't like how we've elected our presidents for the last 150 years, so they're changing the rules for no other purpose than to stack the deck in favor of Republicans. They're trying to choose our President in a smoke-filled room instead of out in the open in free and fair elections. America needs to fight back against the Republican legislators pushing this scheme, to protect the fairness and integrity of our elections. If Republicans in other key swing states copy the proposed law in Pennsylvania, we'll have a system where President Obama could sweep most of the largest, critical swing states in the country (Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, and Michigan) and the Republicans would "earn" a net gain of 20 or more electoral votes. The sponsors of shameless Koch Brother's GOP schemes like these won't go unpunished!. Now we know their arrogance knows no bounds.


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