Riley Nelson did a very good job against University of Washington in 2010, he
could throw and run, best of all he made very few mystakes and he really did
what it takes to win, it might be good to bring him in for a game.
It seems to me the first problem the Y needs to address is pathetic line play.
Before shelving the QB, and OC. How about finding an offensive line man that can
block for the run game or the passing game. OL is terrible. The U with
injuries and a makeshift Ol are much better. So, maybe take a look at that
coach and see if there is someone that can teach these players the position.
Maybe the head coach at Weber State would give them some consulting. The D-line
same story, poor at best. Until the Y realizes that football is won by
controlling the line of scrimage and manages to consistently accomplish this,
they will be below average as a program.
Nothing like a couple of wins to cure the ills.
To PA_BYU_FAN | 9:38 a.m. Sept. 21, 2011,Good points with the
exception of number 5. The defense gave up in the second half! Good defenses
do not give up. I think the excuse of being on the field too long in the second
half does not hold much water. Three of the Utah scoring drives took less than
30 seconds total. Not much time to be on the field.
To BlueHusky | 2:30 p.m. Sept. 20, 2011 The point of the dismay over
the loss last Saturday, in my point of view, was not only the poor play but the
BYU football team gave up in the second half. Good teams do not give up under
any circumstances, they continue to play! The fault is with the coaching staff!
Football is not a priority in their minds and it appears mental toughness in
difficult situations is something they dismiss as well.
Being on ESPN exposes the Cougars to the world. This is what I've seen so
far:1. A light weight running back (#10) and a very poor running
game.2. A big line that can't run block (size only matters when they
execute)3. An offensive coordinator who is not ready to call plays at the
1A level (maybe not even high school?).4. An offensive that is very sad
given past success levels.5. A defense that is competitive6. An
offense that needs a big wake up and perhaps a coaching change before it sinks
too deep off the rankings....7. If things don't get better soon - -I might
need to find something else to do rather than watch those late night games here
in the East.PLEASE COUGARS _ GET WELL QUICK!
Dump Heaps! If the coaching staff doesn't realize by now that he's not good in
game situations, there is something woefully wrong with them.Everyone in the stands knows it -- wake up!
@ParkCougDoman is the QB coach as well as the OC.
Remember before the season that I mentioned on here that my friend who is on the
team said that not everybody on the team thought Heaps should be the starting QB
due to lack of leadership and maturity? Everyone was saying how
wrong I was. Well, maybe I wan't wrong. I was hoping Jake's quick and sudden
marriage was going to help him grow up. Apparently, it hasn't. Who should we
start? Not Heaps.
Bronco is not a head coach, plain & simple, I bet Bronco was all state
in Dodge Ball in his younger days
There's a video on youtube that shows all SEVEN turnovers against Utah. The
most telling is the fumble by Jake Heaps in the backfield in which he turns and
walks to the sideline rather than make an attempt to recover the ball.
Admittedly he has no chance but at least try!Contrast that with the
fumble by Riley Nelson. Riley did fumble but look what he did. Despite the
blocking and having NO chance to recover the ball Riley continues to pursue the
Utah defender into the end zone. That is the difference between Riley and
Heaps. GUTS! Heaps needs to sit this year and let Nelson salvage
what is left on this year which isn't much. We'll walk through the rest of the
season and have a gaudy record thanks to playing the WAC but Bronco, Heaps is
NOT the answer. It was embarrassing. This is not BYU football. You
told Nelson he would be the QB. Let him be the QB. Sit Heaps and let him
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I think Heaps is the QB of the future, but he has not had to work for it. I
think they need to give Lark a chance and see what he can do. At least open up
the QB position and actually make Heaps earn it. I do question Doman's play
calling too. When Heaps got sacked and fumbled late in the 3rd, Doman called a
play action pass. First, we were down 30-10 so I think Utah knew we were not
going to run it much. Second, in order for play action to be effective you have
to be able to run the ball. We had 11 yards running, that is opposite of
effective. I do coach, but am more of a defensive guy. That play call just
seemed like a bad call. Those are basic 101 rules Doman should know and yet he
still has called those type of plays. If they can find a run game, that would do
wonders for their offense.
Re: "niners" @ 4:38: I don't know what kind of record BYU would have
if all LDS players went on missions; I'm guessing it would probably be pretty
similar to what they have now. I am in favor of bringing high-character non-LDS
players into the program as well, but not to boost the record, and I must say I
don't recall tons of top-quality game-changers at BYU over the years; Jim
McMahon was an obvious exception to that. But I am very happy that so many
great people such as Tom Holmoe have been introduced to the Church through
having been recruited to play for BYU. The point I wanted to make,
if not clearly enough, is that I thought you were out of line for taking your
target to task--"Wow take a look in the mirror buddy, people like you are
the ones that drive people away from the LDS church in the first
place"--for a comment that I thought was valid. And "sturn" said
nothing whatsoever about non-LDS players, so I didn't think your comment about
our record without them had any relevance to the matter being discussed.
Legitimate question- who is the new QB coach? The offense looks like they are
in slow motion. Who is responsible for this? Coach Doman?
I'm not a football coach, so my opinions are questionable. I have to assume
(1)that the coaches are experts and know what they are doing, but the players
are not able to execute their plans, or (2) that the OC is young and
inexperienced, or (3) maybe a little of both.As a fan, my biggest
question concerned our lack of blitzes. Wynn had all the time in the world to
throw the ball, as opposed to poor Heaps, who seemed to be under pressure the
entire night. Another question concerns our running game: why can't we block
better to free up our backs? Comments:I think that Doman might
do better in the box where he can see the entire field. Why not put in Riley who
is a better scrambler and runner? Muzzle Heaps and keep him away from the press.
Re-teach ball security methods. The Utes didn't win the game, they had it handed
to them on a silver platter. Had the Cougars protected the ball better, it would
have been an entirely different game.
The offense is in total disarray. One person to blame is Coach Doman. He is
one lost puppy out there.
PS - I'm not certain that Jake has ever watched any game film of himself.
Too much talk from Jake Hypes and not nearly enough performance to back it up.
He continues to talk in interviews about how great they can be. Forget great,
I'd be happy with an improvement into the 20 something range for offensive
scoring and stop handing the other team more points than we can generate.
Excellent defense is meaningless when the offense scores 10 and gives away
21.Mr Hypes is overthrowing and underthrowing too many easy short
throws. His rainbow pass to Apo was a things of beauty but it's the only decent
downfield throw he has made in three games.Coaching staff continues
to cover for him and point out everyone elses mistakes (dropped passes, bad
routes, poor protection) same as last year but refuse to point out anything on
the QB. Is his self confidence really that fragile?
@ninersI didn't mean to sound like everyone had to be a return
missionary or church member. I just think that it's ironic to use the guy who
apparantly thinks football is more important than his religion while they are
making such a big deal about "football is not the top priority". If
you make that type of statement, just stick with it. If your action doesn't
match what you say, don't say it.
play Lark.Muzzle Haeps.Sick of his excuses.Make everyone on hte team line up and tackle him as hard as they can. He is
too soft.All talk.Time to move on.Had enough
or changing my season tickets for movie passes.
I have said this before and I will say it again. The OC needs to be in the
press box. Why can't Bronco see this? He is the head coach. Make the decision
and get him where he belongs. Of course Bronco doesn't get involve in the over
all play of game. I'm not sure he understand what is expected of a head coach.
He lacks emotion and decision makeing. He needs to act like a head coach. BYU
needs time every day and watch Boise State play and see how a team blocks, how
hard the runners run, how the receivers run their routes to get open and their
special teams. This BYU team is the worst coached college football team in the
county. This is how I see it and I'm sticking to it.
This is why I LOVED Max Hall. Say what you want about the guy, he was someone
the team looked up to and could rally behind. It was a common thing to see him
sprinting down the field to get up in someones face that put a late hit on his
teammate or something of the sort. What he lacked in size, he made up for with
heart. I remember when Hall started his first NFL game against the defending
championship Saints. He tried running over 2 linebackers and got absolutely
demolished, just to show his teammates he would fight alongside them. His team
rallied behind him and they got the win. Heaps has the physical talent, but
lacks the mental toughness. He needs to realize that showing some fight and
leadership is more important than avoiding a hit because you don't want to get
hurt. Lets hope he realizes this soon
@ cougar passionI understand that, what I am saying is you don't
have to be a returned missionary to represent the LDS church or live up to a
higher standard. But that was just a side note I wanted to point out. What I
really wanted to point out is that it would be very hard to fill those skilled
positions in with all returned missionaries. If BYU football wants to field a
respectable team, they will have to recruit some non mormons. I don't know
about you but I rarely see 6'4 to 6'6 athletic looking missionaries that could
play wide receiver in todays college football. Austin Collie was one of only a
Re: "niners" @ 2:41: I think the (very valid) point "sturn"
was trying to make is that if the coaching staff wants to make such a big deal
about representing the Church, and how football is so low on their list of
priorities, then the decisions they make regarding which LDS players they play
must reflect that as well (kids who aren't LDS clearly are exempt in this
regard). It smacks a number of us as frankly unfair--and counter to the mission
they so vigorously claim to support--to immediately hand a high-profile position
to an unproven player who publicly states he wants to represent his Church but
isn't going to fulfill the religious requirement others did. I don't have a
favorite among the other quarterbacks, but it isn't a stretch to suggest that
James Lark, now a junior, by now might have gotten the reps in practice
necessary to win the starting job if events had played out differently. "sturn" viewed this as hypocritical. Unless I don't
understand the meaning of the word, I would be hard-pressed to find fault with
@Broom,Come on! your not counting the other games because "all
you have to do is show up"?Lets be real. All you have to do is
"show up" to beat the ones you did list, minus TCU.I just
think your afraid BYU won't show up, so your hedging. TCU is the
only worthy opponant on that list you made for a decent BYU football team. But
we know that even a great BYU football team will get destroyed by TCU, so don't
bother hoping, ever, for that to be a win. So in other words, if BYU
goes 9-3, they get no respect and no ranking, and they are truley a terrible
team. Good for BYU for scraping togeather a schedule that loosing 3
games means your terrible!!! HAHA.
First of all, all the talk about the "potential" this team had was and
is wrong. How much potential does a team coming off a 6 loss season, with
horrible stats against any above average opponents supposed to have? A team coming back with terrible rankings in all offensive categories should
not be hyped like BYU was coming into the off season. The receiving
core is not talented at all. Unproven at best. The WRs can't get open, and they
can't make plays after the catch.Why label them as "play
makers," and all the other accolades this group has gotten, when they are
one of the worst in college football?Now we will begin to hear how
the BYU offense has turned the corner and Improved. No they havent,
it's just bad teams they will look decent against. Lets see how the offensive
stats end up against TCU.BYU had their chance to prove something in
their first 3 games, and they proved they are no good. Sorry byu
wasted their opportunity. No respect this year! Better luck in 2012!
We have to go 4-1 against the following teams: UCF, USU, TCU, OSU, UH (HI) for
this season to avoid being a train wreck, in my opinion, and I don't see that
happening unless things change dramatically. DRAMATICALLY.I am not
brining up the other games on the schedule as all we have to do is show up to
win those games.
To all the doubters of our running game; as long as the opposing defense has
ZERO respect for our passing game, the running game will suffer. As long as our
QB is afraid, hesitant, not a leader, there will be no respect.
@ sturnIf BYU required all their players to go on missions they
would go 2-10 on a regular basis. Most of BYU skill positions are not returned
missionaries or even mormon for that matter. Also, you think returned
missionaries are the only ones that can represent BYU positively? Wow take a
look in the mirror buddy, people like you are the ones that drive people away
from the LDS church in the first place.
I'm not convinced that our "great" receivers are trying to get open. I
saw them jogging way more than my HS football coach allowed us to jog.
Easy to stampede for the exits when you get beaten like that. Seven turnovers is
the cause. I seem to recall that 4 of those turnovers with inside the BYU 10.
That's 28 points, if my math is correct ... but one bad loss does not a season
make.Last year, Washington was crushed by Nebraska in Seattle. The
Huskies beat them in the Holiday Bowl.Doman is new. Heaps is a
Sophomore. Should Bronco have retained Anae? Should Bronco look for a new OC and
a DC? Should Bronco demote himself to DC next year and let BYU hire a new HC?Whatever happens next year can't be done this year. We're stuck with
what we have. We can't replace anybody in mid-season. Bronco will get this team
on track and we'll be respectable, maybe even exciting.
@AVI - you mean Nike right? Pres. Kimball was "Lengthen you stride"
Wich would be good advice too
Look for Central Florida to take them apart, Friday night
@ Broom HockeyDo not disagree as any loss to Utah always leaves an
ugly stain on a season.Honestly believe that any Cougar fan (myself
included) would gladly take 9-3 at this early juncture of the season.However, unless Doman begins to stretch the field and the offense can finally
begin to live up to their potential and their hype-we will be lucky to end up
7-5 with losses to UCF/USU/TCU. It is time for the offense to EXPLODE!
Heaps, enough talk. Stop talking about what you should do and in the immortal
words of Pres Kimball, "Just Do It!"
THE reason the BYU offense is so lack luster boils down to one thing - NO
RUNNING GAME. The O-line is opening no holes and the backs at BYU are terrible -
slow and plodding at best. Everytime the Y does get a good back he gets kicked
out of school!!
Alpine"This promising season could easily turn into a big-time
trainwreck."It isn't already? Losing by 44 to our
main rival put a MAJOR damper on the season. Even if we win out, which is
probably unlikely given how we've played, it will be a disappointing year in my
opinion. BYU still has UCF, USU, TCU, and OSU on the schedule. We will not win
all 4 of those games......Just sayin'. Anything less than 9-3 would
be disappointing, given our easy breezy schedule and we're heading in that
I'm sorry to say this, but I was unable to get excited about this year's team
even before the last game. The BYU coaching staff emphasizes so much on the
bigger picture, higher standard, and representing the LDS church, but then using
a player who chose not to go on a mission is kind of hypocritical in my opinion.
@ technonerd7@ full disclosureGood points of analysis about
the on-going failure of the offense. Let me add a couple more:1.
Absolutely no since of urgency even deep in the game. Time to abandon the
huddle and revert to a full game of no-huddle two-minute warning offense.2. There is no chemistry on the team apparently. You can only imagine
how the defense must feel about the almost total lack of any offensive points.
To play their hearts out-stop the opponent and then end up back on the field
after a quick offensive turnover.3. It also seems obvious as so
many have pointed out that the offensive unit has totally been caught up in the
fraud that they were going to be good this year and put up a lot of points. And
in spite of the almost total lack of production after three games, Heaps keeps
on blabbing. Bronco needs to put a muzzle on Jake and force him to let his
playing do the talking.Easy to see losses to both UCF and USU if the
offense doesn't come alive.This promising season could easily turn
into a big-time trainwreck.
this is not the first year i have seen the cougars implode. for me this was
inevitable. what i have perceived and totally agree with is what a blogger
posted either yesterday or the day before. it appears to me that BYU football
has for the past few years expected entitlement just because of who they are. I
have noticed this and wondered when the implosion was going to happen? Well, as
we can see, it is happening right in front of our eyes. Just because you are
BYU, a football team under the LDS church umbrella, does not mean you are
entitled to anything! BYU is a target. Why? Because of the perceived aura that
spits from this team and has done so for the past few years. It's snobbery and
it's getting very old. Lets get off the high horse, humble yourselves, get
serious and PLAY football! The talent is there, the drive is not. Individually
you are great, as a team you guys stink! ALL for one...one for all! As for me, I
will continue to wear my BYU t-shirts but will have a paper bag on my head!
I've heard from an inside source that the team would support Jason Munns. The
kid is supposed to be big, talented and a leader. Nothing to lose by giving him
a shot. I'm not a huge Riley Nelson fan. He didn't have an impressive arm
against the Utes and he is to quick to scramble, not to mention his fumble. No,
give Lark and Munns a chance. Heap's train has left the station.
In Heaps, I see a quarterback who is scared to death of being hit. When he
throws an interception, he doesn't go for the tackle. When the center hikes it
over his head, he's doing everything to get it out of his hands so he won't get
smoked (hit hard). When a defender rushes through on a blitz and Heaps is
staring him in the face, his heart melts and he just drops the ball. When Heaps
speaks for the offense and says "we have to do this", it sounds real
hollow. The only person he can speak for is himself. He has nothing to say to me
until I see him willing to get hit. No guts and no glory. Just a joke.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing the same way and expecting a
different result. Remember last year Bronco had to fire the defensive
coordinator to get the team's attention; who is he going to fire this year?
They need to shake something up now to get this team back, or this will be the
most dismal year BYU has ever seen.
Before the season started, Doman was quoted, "The look of our offense will
be different . . . our plays will not be as obvious and we will be doing more
play action" The plays are obvious and all you do is play
action! BYU has some great running backs - USE THEM. The quarterback should be
the leader on the field - bench Heaps, he needs to learn some humility and
leadership. I am disappointed in one year. Last year he played well against poor
competition . . . yea, they might score 20 against Idaho St, but not against
UCF, Utah St, TCU, Oregon St, Hawaii, or Idaho for that matter. something needs to change quickly or this could be a very long season and
people will be leaving early every game. Make changes!!
Cougar Cindy, You're a class act. Keep in mind two things:1-Jake
is receiving a very expensive full ride scholarship and what comes along with
that are expectations for results. If someone was willing to pay for my
education I would accept the challenges that come with that gift 2-Jake has aspirations to play in the NFL (which appears to be less likely
with each game he plays). If he can't handle the press and fans in Utah, there
is no way he could survive the press and fans in Philly or NY.Good
luck Jake, Cindy and Cougar Nation for the rest of the season
I really hate to gang up on Jake Heaps because there are so many other problems
on this team besides the QB position. . . .but if there is anything that I have
learned about BYU football over the past 4 decades, it is that the success or
failure of the team all begins with the quarterback. History has shown us that a
good QB can compensate for deficiencies in the defense or running game, and a
subpar QB directly translates into a subpar team. Heaps has some
very good skills and is deficient in other areas that can improve with time and
maturity. But he lacks toughness and heart. This can not be taught or learned.
You either have it or you don't. That is why the coaching staff would do well by
at least giving a fair shot to one of the backups. From what I have observed
Nelson does have those intangible characteristics but lacks the raw skill for
D-1 football. Although I haven't seen him, but from what I have heard, Lark has
decent skills and posses the character attributes that would make him a good
football player, QB, and leader for BYU football.
People asking for Heaps to be benched are over-reacting, emotional fans who just
watched their team quit with 8 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter.I'm
fine with losing to Utah, but not when our team curls up their Cougar tails
between their legs and lays down. No Bronco Mendenhall football.Fans see more than bad football right now...they see quitters.
What a difference reading your posts in August vs. September. From Heisman, BCS
and national championship talk to total despair. Trust me, I drank the red
Kool-Aid last year and then reality hit: 47-7 vs. TCU and 28-3 vs ND. I do
hope things get better.The best post on this thread was the BYU fan
who said "We're playing an airport this week (Florida International)".
The scary thing is I think the airport might have some decent athletes. Go
luck this week Cougs!
Wow . . . I commented earlier about trying out Lark, but after revisiting and
reading all these comments, something I almost never do, I'm feeling sorry for
Heaps. If he's getting it here (and I'm sure he does not read), I'm sure he's
getting it from many other directions. What a load to put on a 19 year old kid.
I guess it's a load he has wanted and asked for, but I hope he survives it in
tact, and finds a way to be successful, to rise to the level of his rhetoric and
be true to his words . . . or to be at ease about not saying them.I
believe in being kind, Cougars. Truthful, okay, but kind.
I love BYU football; but I have better things to do than watch the rest of the
games.Heaps shouls stop talking, please, please, please.......
I recently purchased a BYU t-shirt, but I am embarrassed to wear it after the
performance of the football team. Now I understand why in the Ensign this month
there is an article about not being afraid or ashamed to let your light shine
forth. I will have to try more diligently to wear my new t-shirt even though the
football team is hiding under a bushel.
I wish Jake would stop talking and start performing. He continually promises
this and that and then does nothing to back it up. He made the ridiculous
comment after the Texas debacle that the Utah game is exatcly what BYU needed.
Yeah, that turned out real well.To be fair, some of his passes have been
dropped but he over-throws his receivers multiple times each game and looks very
much like just an average QB. He looks terrified out on the field at the
proposition that he might get tackled. I thought thats what happens in
Football. Every QB gets tackled from time to time. Jake looks nothing like the
hype that has been generated for him the past 3 years. So frustrating.
1. Jake. Take responsibility ... too many bounced/overthrown passes before
pressure even arrived. You have monster wide receivers, hit them. When you make
mistakes, own up and fix them. Great BYU quarterbacks stepped up and made plays,
not excuses.2. Special Teams. Pathetic. Fumbling punts, kicking out of
bounds, allowing 20+ yards on returns. Fix this!3. Offensive Coordinator.
Honestly, I think that the play calling has improved, but Jake and the running
backs haven't executed.4. Defense. Amazing in the first half, tired and
slow in the second half. I know that you've been on the field for far too long
... substitute more and show the depth that we've been hearing about.Coaching Staff. Embarrassing and humiliating game. Apologize sincerely to the
fans, many who routinely travel from Idaho, Nevada and southern Utah to attend.
I didn't see anything that can't be fixed through hard decisions.
Fix this now.
I've heard that, not only is Heaps not a leader, but his teammates don't even
time for Bronco to step down and take Heaps and his feature backs with
him......this team is the most over hyped Cougar team in history.....Time to shut up and leave it on the field......
re: BostonThings aren't going very well for BYU football so your
solution is to drop the program?BYU football is self sustaining and pays
for almost all the other sports. It doesn't need your tithing money.If BYU
football becomes too hard to watch, there is this device called a "remote
control." I used it in the 4th quarter of last game and it worked
great.As a father of a student athlete at BYU, I take real exception
to those who call for BYU to drop their intercollegiate athletics like Ricks
College/BYU-I just because their football team doesn't meet expectations at
times. Athletics provides tremendous opportunities for students and are used
effectively as ambassadors for the LDS Church. Yes, much positive attention has
been afforded to the Church because of BYU sports. Now if BYU football was
consumed with scandal and very serious NCAA infractions (like Miami), then the
"death sentence" might be in order. But until then, NO WAY should we
dissolve BYU intercollegiate athletics.
Enough talking. Heaps should answer questions with 1/50th the amount of words
that he uses. Same goes for everyone at BYU who always talks of undefeated
seasons and National Championships. Speak softly and carry a big stick.Shut up and put up. As a season ticket holder, you guys have two weeks
to get better or I'm going fishing on Saturdays.
* No one wants to hear Jake speak anymore. Please resist the urge.* When
you failed to make a tackle attempt, that was a bad sign.* I don't think
you've made a serious attempt to run yourself when you're out of options - it
shows a lot of grit when a quarterback exposes himself like that and it keeps
the defense in check.
Anyone else notice how long it takes Heaps to check out the defense during the
game? Almost every play, the clock was down to single digits no matter when the
play went in to Jake. Kid doesn't have what it takes to lead. Play yes, lead,
It's time to bench Heaps! There are three other talented QB's on the roster. BYU
is still Quarterback U, it's just that Heaps isn't a QB. There is another QB
that no one is talking about, Jason Munns. I think it's time that this kid got a
1- Bronco admits among other things that BYU was out-coached. Not the first
time!2- The most popular person in Provo is always the back-up
quarterback when things are going wrong. Jake Heaps is a talent and would thrive
in most systems. BYU should throw the ball 60 times a game. 3- BYU's
offensive line is designed to protect the quarterback not make holes for the
running backs.4- The running game has alway's been succesful when
they have had big fullbacks.5- The Peter Principal applies to
Brandon Doman- "People rise to the level of their incompetance."
Meaning- a good quarterback's coach does not make a good offensive coordinator.
Coach Doman is a a good good guy who talked in Fall camp about putting a ton of
points on the board. If thats what he saw then, he does not have the capability
of evaluation. In summary not bad players but bad coaching. By game
7 if things don't turn around fast Brandon Doman will become this years Jamie
So amusing to see some of the same names on here wanting Heaps benched', who
told me during and after the 2010 spring camp that I "just didn't get
it" when I said Heaps might be an elite recruit, but he was unprepared for
D1 football. Sure Heaps will throw pretty balls in camps and practices all day
long, but he's physically weak and mentally immature and cannot replicate his
performance with the bullets flying.Nelson is both a leader and a
gamer. He's also smart. However, he lacks arm strength and size. In a zone
read offense like the one Oregon employs, he might do okay. In a pro style,
west coast offense like the one BYU uses, he's out of place. Even so, he would
be more productive than Heaps.For my money Lark is the obvious guy.
Like Nelson he's smart, mature and a leader. He's got an NFL body and BYU
claims he's the strongest QB they've ever had. He's got a bigger arm than Heaps
or Nelson and he's faster than both. At least on paper, he's the perfect QB for
what BYU does, yet Doman seems determined to go down on the Heaps' Titanic.
This season is clearly an indicator of the lack of recruiting and coaching
anomilies at BYU in the football program. If this situation doesn't get
addressed seriously, the ESPN agreement will be in jeopardy since I'm sure there
is some opt out clause we don't know about. Fan interest and anger about the
lack of favorable results is mounting. These players and coaches seem to be
reacting publicly that there is no sense of urgency. I understand that behind
the scenes coaches are cracking the whip in their own way. I wish we could see
some head coaching emotion on the sidelines during the games. This stoic look
we have all become familiar with (body language) is wearing on me, and I'm sure
on many others who have been long-time BYU athletic fans and supporters. I am
tired of the old cliches and downplay of what we are observing on the field.
The mainstream reporters are not giving us the real story either. Come on.
When are we going to get HDTV on KBYU, and expanded sports coverage? I'm tired
of the current coverage. Give us some news please.
James Lark needs to get his PR agent working harder so he can come in and lead
the Cougs to the national championship!Not only did Heaps not go after the
defender on his pick 6 vs Ole Miss he didn't seem to try and go after the Ute
defender who picked him off either. His own teammates haven't wanted him at qb
or as their leader, now that we know he isn't capable it's time to put Lark in.
Can't be any worse than 54-10, right?
It's refreshing to hear so many of you fans calling it like it is. I have gained
great respect for you since the game, because I normally get quite annoyed at
the kool aid that many byu fans drink and the big talk in the off-season and the
trash talk. I agree with the points you are all making. I'm a big Utah fan, and
yes I am hard on byu, but it's been interesting to sit back and read these
comments. The only problem is that none of the coaches or anyone will even make
changes or respond. They are so delusional and full of rhetoric and
"insanity" (definition - doing the same thing over and over and
expecting different results) that it might not get better. I think byu will
probably bounce back and win 7 - 8 games this year, but it won't be pretty. I'm
sure they'll figure a few things out and make it happen. But I'm glad I don't
have Joke Heaps as my qb. I'm not saying Wynn is an all-star, but he doesn't
have the personality issues and cockiness of Heaps.
Heaps made a lot of great throws. The WRs got involved. Playing from behind
with a non-existent running game is tough. A little perspective is needed. BYU
had 7 turnovers and Utah got over 30 points off of turnovers. Yes, BYU seemed
to give up but I don't know that I can blame them too much. Some times you cut
your losses and move on. BYU will turn it around with the weak teams on their
schedule, I just hope they can play UCF, USU (I am even giving USU credit for
the first time in 20 years), TCU, OSU (although OSU is looking pretty weak as
well) with some fire and I hope the offense shows up. I haven't given up on
Heaps or Doman and would love another chance at the Utes. Does the armed forces
bowl get a pac team?
To Leo the common sense guy: Sir, you need to send your feelings directly to.
Mr Mendenhall. It won't get to him on this blog.
Spanish Fork knows who will be the star of their H.S. baseball team when the kid
is in 3rd grade. BYU knows who will be their starting quarterback when the kid
is in the 9th grade. If (the star) doesn't work out, the good ole' boys are too
prideful to give other kids a chance even when it is quite evident the
"other kids" could do just as well. Shame on BYU and their worldly
ways! The standards of the L.D.S. Church are unmatched, but the football
program is just not cuttin' it. Just drop the program like Ricks College.
Heaps is scared!He is scared of getting hit and playing like it.
His reaction to the pick-6 against Ole Miss is a great example. He didn't want
to get hit or mix it up by trying to go for the tackle.Another
example is when he threw the long pass to Hoffman in the Utah game. He
completed the pass, but go back and watch it. He rolled out and then threw the
long pass. Just after he threw it, he covered up, nearly in the fetal position,
worried that he was going to get hurt.You can see it throughout
these games. When the pressure comes, or when he thinks it is coming, he is
rushed and trys to immediatly go to his check-down receivers which he then
throws behind them or misses them in some way. He is scared and
playing scared. I think he needs to sit on the bench for a game or two and see
if he can prove himself in live practices, take some hits, earn the respect of
his team mates, and show them that he can lead them into battle and not be the
first to bail out!
We need to recruit a decent running back. Look at what we have, no speed or
size. Our leading rusher is a tippy toer. Our offensive line is also
questionable. They have definitely been under achievers this year. It would
also help if our defensive line got into shape. They are only good for one
half. Even if we win out and go to the Armed Forces Bowl, what a disappointment
of a season. I'm with Cindy, give Lark a shot. Nothing to lose!
Next year we can expect to see the minimum, per contract, three games on ESPN.
The game with U must have been a nightmare for ESPN. We'll be watching the rest
of the games on BYUTV.
1984 for life,Yeah... but that airport beat Louisville as well and
actually might be ok (or even good) this year. I think we just might lose to
UCF, especially if we even play half as bad as we did in the 2nd half against
Utah. I also think if we played that airport you speak of, they would at least
give us a good game even if we played our best. I think our best against their
best, we would win though. But we have not given our best in any game this
season yet,(at least I certainly hope what has been shown is not our best).
@Coug420After hearing those comments from Heaps, perhaps he should
borrow part of your name and become Heaps420. I think it would help explain his
view on the situation.
I am a huge Cougar fan. Blue Mowhawk and Facepaint fan. But I think you guys
are placing the blame on to finite an area.1- Our recievers are not
running the routes, they are jogging.2- Our Center can't hike the ball
right to save his life. I think he had 8 bad snaps in the Utah game.3-
Our RB are not big enough to bruise and not small enough to be fast.4- Our
future NFL OL Reynolds is one of, if not the most penalized OL in the nation.5- Play calling has not been good.6- TE are not used enoough.Point
is, ALL THE COACHES are not doing their job.
You know why I have no confidence in BYU or Mendenhall-In Mendenhall's press
conference on Monday, he said that he had "ZERO" complaints about his
defense other than than one of the long runs his team gave up in the 4th qtr.
Well coach, How about the 200 plus rushing yards your team gave up to Utah with
Junior College transfers? Is that something to be proud of? A great Defense is
able to stop the run and keep a team around 50 to 75 yards rushing. Getting
gashed by over 200 yards on the ground and having zero complaints. are you
serious Bronco? Not to mention the secondary got gashed by Jordan Wynn whom many
believe is a sub-par QB. I am growing tired of Bronco's rhetoric. It's
disheartening to hear a coach when he says he has zero complaints against a
Defense that gave up itleast 40 points against Utah. Yes I
understand that the Heaps fumble in the end zone and the muffed kick off were
the fault of the Offense so I took away 14 points, but still giving up 40 points
is laughable coach. time to get rid of Bronco.
If nothing changes for the game against Central Florida, a 3-4 touchdown lose
will happen. Central Florida is a good team and is going to Provo to take out
their frustrations on the Cougs. Start Lark or Nelson or this game will be over
before it starts.
Man, according to those stats we're one of the worst teams in the country. Uugh.
I agree, we need an experienced OC with a proven success record. BYU
does have talented players. You shouldn't waste that talent by hiring a brand
new OC. That's not fair to the players that chose to be at BYU or the fans. This
is gonna kill recruiting.
This is starting to feel a lot like last year. I was predicting a 9-3 mark, but
I'm feeling like it's going to be another 6-6 season, playing another patsie in
the Armed Forces Bowl. I'm not so disheartened that we lost to U,
but I am dishearted with how we played. I'm not sure if it's lack of
conditioning or lack of heart, but it's been evident in all three games this
year. We seem to give up on plays, and drives and in this case we gave up on
the game when we were down 10 - 30.I'm hoping to see Nelson or Lark
play if Heaps struggles again in the the first quarter of the UCF game.And I hate to admit it but the U trolls are right . . . Jake's PR agency needs
to teach him how to keep his mouth shut. His only comment this week should have
been, "It was evident that our team has a lot to work on. We're committed
to going back to the practice field and redoubling our effort to become a better
football team." Period.
Alright guys, please "recommend" this post if you think I,
GoodGuyGary, should come out of retirement and enroll to BYU again and play QB
for my beloved team. I think at the age of 39, I will play better ball than Jake
Put Lance Reynolds back in charge of the running backs and offensive line. I
don't know why they took the one guy who was having success last year and
I haven't seen you play in HS. How do you compare your team Wash vs Southern Cal
team. Something wrong here and you do have talent with your arm but your vision
are not there or just have tunnel vision. Do you have Retinitis Pigmentosa? Just
shut up and get to work on the field and win them. This UCF team
hasn't played anyone yet when they are very high in defense ranking. Florida
International and Duke are not very good and Boston College are having a bad
year. So, you should be able to beat them this time around and don't rely on
your defense team being on the field all the time for you Heap's.
Brother Heaps, you have a lot of growing up to do. The first place to start is
be quite, stop talking and making excuses. This is not your high school team,
this is BYU D1 football. You havent done anything yet. Bronco, take charge, you
are the head coach, when your team is getting killed step up and lead. Dont just
sit back and watch it fall apart. It doesnt hurt to get a little fired up on the
sideline every now and then. We do have a good team with great talent. The team
needs pro-active leadership from the TOP!
Say it isn't so! Please, say it isn't so! Sorry folks, it is what it
is...BYU is simply awful. This wasn't just a shellacking from any
ole team; it was a pure old fashioned woopin by a mediocre Utah team at best.
Utah just aint that good...that's what makes this beat down so hard for BYU fans
to take for crying out loud.No matter how much fans want it to be
different, it just aint so...BYU has an absolutely horrible offense with a
defense who gives up when the goin gets tuff.
The lack of progress has gotten Worse with heaps....froma 1 point win, to a 1
point loss, to a 40 point loss.
How could you not trust Jake heaps to be the QB of the future based on his
comments?His humility and correct assessment of the two teams in a 54-10
loss:"I feel like our offense, you know, we did a pretty good job
today..." and "Other than a drive or two that they had, our defense
was stopping them.Utah's offense didn't do anything special."Or his accountability of setting the tone for the game by fumbling and
giving up an easy 7 points:"Our opening drive, not a big deal, I try
to make a heads-up play...but it slips out of my hand."His care
of other teammates:When asked about Riley Nelson getting cheers when he
came in for the first time after recovering from a shoulder injury the response
is "Next question".Hiring a publicist before doing
anything in D-1 football is sure paying dividends.
Too many non-atheletic O-Lineman. The starting O-lineman looked SLOW and were
holding all night, high-low blocking(illegal and dirty), and couldnt pick up
simple blitzes where they sent 3 down lineman and 2 blitzing backers(5 on
5).Coach Webber needs to answer for this because his "best" O-Line
since he's been at BYU set the tone for the game with the bad snap and it was
play catch up pretty much all night.
Bronco...you've got a 250 pound 6.5ft sophomore in Munns on the sidelines, put
him in...what would it hurt. The D-news loved it when he was recruited...why not
I wish Heaps would just keep his mouth shut and do his speaking on the field.For that matter Bronco has an anemic offense with no one to blame but
the coaching staff.
Just watch. If the offense can't put points on the board on their first drive
you'll see Heaps sipping pickle juice on the sidelines.If they are down at
the half Doman will be in the booth chatting with Bronco on a head set.
I like Jake Heaps, I really do. However, I need to say that most of what he says
sounds like dry rhetoric to me, especially after his performance on Saturday.
Like others here I won't buy into anything he says until he starts looking more
like a BYU quarterback. I don't want to sound like a fair-weather fan, I'm
really not. I just want to watch some REAL BYU FOOTBALL! It doesn't even feel
like the season has started yet after watching these sad excuses for
"games"!Less talky talky - More throwy throwy - eh Jakey??
"I have great confidence ..." - Jake HeapsShocking, I had
Bench Heaps and Doman...it's not working.
Glad to hear heaps is taking the blame for a lot of the offensive problems.
Hopefully BYU won't roll over against UCF like Utah did against Notre Dame last
year after TCU whooped on them. I'm thinking that they will bounce back
and be focused. If Heaps does make more mistakes in the first half, I am all for
giving Lark a try in the second half.
Heaps is the problem. The coaches have not made Heaps earn his position. If an O
lineman was playing this poorly he would sit.Heaps should be sitting and
be made to earn his spot and gain the respect of his team mates and fans. Heaps
comes off as spoiled and pampered.
Why don't we just punt on first down? Riley Stephenson was by far our best
player last Saturday. The score would have actually been closer if we had played
under this strategy.
I blame the Deseret News. All during spring and fall practices all they did was
hype up the team on how good and deep they were at every position and they were
gonna be a contender. Now they quote Heaps as saying were a excellent team. No
they are not but I bet when they beat an Idaho team they will say and be quoted
"well, we finally found our rythem" when in fact they finally found a
"Put up or shut up.""Talk is cheap"These are some old adages that apply at this moment in time and after thinking
about it a little more... I'm really ready for the silent treatment.It's about personal responsibility, checking the ego, and taking your
lumps.Get with it.
Don't belittle Florida International. They are an up and coming program and are
VERY good this year. Louisville also lost to them (at home). One
thing more than anything else will help BYU. STOP TALKING!!!! Yes, shut your
mouths and start preparing. Shut your mouths and start playing. I have never
seen a group that was so drunk on the entitlement Kook Aid and this comes back
to the head coach. When was the last time a Utah player spout off his mouth?
When was the last time a Utah coach spout off his mouth? It is so refreshing to
see a team that knows how to keep their mouths shut and simply do their talking
on the football field. BYU needs to understand that they are not
the anointed ones. They were in the fight of their lives against Utah and simply
stopped playing when they got down 30-10. AMAZING. Guys, you are not
"entitled" to anything. BYU will once again be in a brutal
fight against Central Florida. UCF is good. BYU will have to play all four
quarters if they are to have a chance of winning.
What I don't understand is why Lark is not getting a chance. He's older, more
mature, and may be able to handle these pressure situations a little better. I
think the complements have gotten to Jake's head and he's now afraid of messing
up or getting hurt and therefore isn't aggressive. It's like the guy who
doesn't want to get his brand new tuxedo dirty so never wears it out.In any case, if you watch the replay of that game we got totally outcoached.
Kyle's scheming destroyed our oline. Norm's scheming ran and passed all over
us. I think it may be time to start thinking about the top. I know Bronco has
done well but how many of those wins have come over winning teams. They are
Having once derided Bronco, I am sticking with my support of him. Out of all
this he has proven his worth regardless of the losses. What needs to happen I
think is that Bronco needs to take a look around him and weigh the value of his
coordinators and take it from there. As for Heaps, you could of gotten your
point across by just saying: "We can't dwell on this Utah game,
they have a great team and I wish them well in the Pac-12, but we need to get on
to the next game and get better."So please just toughen up,
play hard and stop whining.
afro14,One poor showing? Heaps has not had a good showing this season! I
have posted enough on how inept this boy is due to his lack of D1 preparation,
so I won't repeat it here. Actually, it is encouraging to finally see so many
other blogs referencing his immaturity. That said, he cannot shoulder the blame
alone. The coaches, especially Doman, with his "I've known he was going to
be my starter since I saw him in 9th grade" declaration, planted the seeds
delusion years ago and have fertilized them all too well ever since. Saturday
was merely the inevitable unfolding, lack of preparation crossing paths with
fate and exposing the boy he is.Since it is a church school perhaps a
lesson from President Hinckley might help: mission "farewells", as it
were, have been replaced by more humble speaking assignments for departing young
men because they have, in essence, not done anything yet. As I have said in the
past, this boy my be a fine quarterbacking man someday, but he has a lot of work
to do to just become a man first...
Anyone remember the article that ran sometime this summer attempting to suggest
that Heaps was the next Jimmer? Sigh. The media hype around BYU's independence
and Heaps was amazing looking back. Can you blame fans for the turn of
countenance? I really wish we'd respond to reality rather than "looking
to" accomplish x, y, or z. Heaps has already shown us he can't deliver,
whether its all him, or due to the lack of offensive support any quality
quarterback needs. I'll continue to be a BYU fan, but am in no way excited for
the future this season. I'm also starting to see that Bronco is not the wizard
we thought he was a year and a half ago, coming off all those amazing seasons.
He is a good coach, no doubt. But offensively BYU has got problems that he seems
incapable of solving, both last year (till the 9th game) and now. Placing Doman
in as the offensive coordinator now smacks of some kind of failure, where a
friendship replaced real qualification or honest scrutiny.
More talk form the fearless leader, blah, blah, blah. The secret to leading the
BYU offense is by example. Scramble, jump on lose balls, run, and sacrifice your
body to make big plays. It also appeared to me that Riley Nelson is skittish.
Can't help but remember Bosco playing with a torn ACL... now that shows some
guts that BYU is lacking from their current leader. The NFL won't be looking for
a QB that is not hurt and can't produce wins, so relax and play some football.
@afro14What team are you watching??? One bad showing??? Please...
He's had one decent showing in a year and a half and that was against a very
weak team in the NM Bowl last year... Heaps is not what he has advertised
himself to be.... By a long shot.
I appreciate Bronco's comment about evaluating the "scheme, the plays, and
the running backs..."In my limited perspective, I think it
would be near impossible for any RB to produce with the woeful effort by the OC
line. Maybe it would help if Bronco indicated to the team that
everybody's position is up for grabs from the QB to the "special"
teams.So much has been written about how tired the defense has
looked in the 2nd halves. While it is understood that they have been on the
field a disproportionate amount of time (due to the impotent offense), doesn't
it stand to reason to sub out players to get fresh legs in the games? Haven't we
heard that this is a deep team?
Hey Leo: You demanding anything is silly. I am as frustrated as anyone, but you
sound very odd. It stinks where the team is right now, but I'm not ready to give
up the ship. Utes played a great game and kicked our tails. But last time I
checked the world was still rotating, no major political unpheavals have occured
and no one die. Relax. I'm anxious for the rest of the season and hope for
improvement. If the seaon ends up with only 2 wins or something like that then
I'd be looking for changes. But let's wait and see and have some confidence in
the coaches and players to turn this mess around. I give props to Utah-they were
much better than what I expected.
They need to change something. BYU's one-dimensional offense will not fare well
against UCF's pass defense. If BYU doesn't figure out their running game this
week, UCF will walk away with a victory this friday. Also, couldn't
help but notice how quickly Jake Heaps' popularity plummeted and so many fans
turned on him. Apparently one poor showing is all it takes and they call for
your head in Provo.
Hear, Hear! Let's try Lark!Go Cougars! Please . . .
What would it hurt to try James Lark? He may be the needed play maker. and at
this point , it couldn't hurt to try.
Absolutely unacceptable for a BYU offense to EVER score only one touchdown in a
game nevermind 3 games in a row. I demand the AD Holmoe do something about it.
We REFUSE to put up with this. I demand to see them run up the score on the next
3 opponents to make up for it. This is not a joke.
I thought the defense was just as disappointing, not because of the points given
up (most of that's the offense's fault), but because Bronco for some reason (3
games in a row, in fact) seems to think that a vanilla defense that puts no
CONSTANT pressure on inexperienced or injured QBs can win games.Bad
Bronco!Blitz more, from the outside, even! The few blitzes BYU did
against Utah were inside, where congestion nullified them.He needs
to provide that aggressive defense great college teams are known for. Seems he's
done that in the past. What happened?Effort alone only goes so
far.And, why hasn't Kavienga's name/number not gotten called much in
three games? I thought he was supposed to be the end-all LB.
I lost trust in Heaps when he made absolutely no effort to tackle the Old Miss
defender who intercepted one of his passes a few weeks ago. The interceptor ran
within 10 yards of Heaps, who simply was walking off the field. That return
resulted in a 97 yard touchdown.Heaps seems to care only about his
quotes in the paper, staying safe and uninjured, and his personal performance.
He doesn't seem to be about "team". And thats about all I
have got to say about that.
Washington... you dodged a bullet.
can you say BYU 1 win 3 losses? As anemic as the offense is there is no bouncing
back. It's time to look at other QBs and change offensive coordinators before
their performance becomes offensive for those of us who watch.
'"This is my responsibility to lead this team to victory, to perform in the
big moments when our backs are against the wall," Heaps said. "That's
something you can look (for) from me, is more consistency as far as throwing the
football and taking care of this football team. I need to do that in order for
this team to improve."'Jake, your play on the field belie the
words coming out of your mouth. The best thing you can do for you and the team
is lead by your actions, not by your mouth (see Kellen Moore of BSU). If you
want to lead, show some grit, toughness, determination, and heart. So far we
haven't seen any of that.Also, let's please stop this nonsense about
"failure to execute." All that means is that we aren't nearly as good
as we thought we were.
I just wish that Heaps would be quiet and that Mendenhall would put a muzzle on
him.... He needs to earn the right to speak for the team. So far, in his less
than successful entry into Division I college football he has proven that he is
far too much talk and woefully short on action.... I suppose that there is
talent there somewhere (at least people tell us that he has it) but he hasn't
shown it. I think that the two guys under him would both have done at least as
well and probably better than he has through the first three games this year.It's almost as though he is wanting to be a color commentator as opposed
to a player. He needs to focus on playing and stop talking....As for
the coaches, Mendenhall really needs to do some soul searching on Doman... He
probably has the potential to be very good... But he aint there and won't be for
awhile. BYU can't afford to have an Apprentice O C work his way to Journeyman
status for the next three years while the Program suffers. Demote him and
bring in a skilled and Tenured O C.
I guess no one told Jake Heaps that the new QB U is up the hill and not in Provo
UCF just lost to an airport (Florida Int'l) so let's hope they don't beat us.