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BYU football: Cougars have had some bumps in the road on offense

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  • QBU OREM, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 6:00 p.m.

    Doman needs to get up in the booth. If you feel like your quarterback needs you by his side in the heat of battle, get a new quarterback who isnt afraid to wear his big boy pants.
    I also agree with everyone who has said that BYU needs to pass first to set up the run. You have the tools to be a good passing team. A strong arm, and big athletic receivers. As we have learned so far, the running game is not our strong suit. No matter how long Bronco waits, Di Luigi is not going to get bigger to run over the defenses that are stuffing the box. Di Luigi is a perfect RB to catch a team off guard when you have been passing all game. Its not that hard to see.

  • BYUfan777 Pleasant Grove, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 4:56 p.m.

    The article somehow forgot to leave out that Heaps is one of the main reasons for BYU struggling offensively. I'm so sick of the media giving this kid a pass. He's never proved anything. The coaches need to let Lark take some snaps and then the offense might actually start producing

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 4:02 p.m.

    the BYU offensive is still in neutral. Can Doman shift it into drive?

  • wyoming cougar Green River, WY
    Sept. 15, 2011 3:52 p.m.

    I think it's quite funny for utah fans to already be calling for BYU losses to buth u and usu. When you comment that BYU is the 3rd best team in the state, who is it that you think should be up there as #1?

    I'm sure you think u are, but if so that's only because you're too scared to play usu this year, or you'd wind up 0-2 against mid-major/ WAC teams.

    BYU- 24
    utah- 13

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 2:36 p.m.

    Wow, what happened to all the Doman/Heaps hype that was rampant in the Dnews and on the comment boards from Spring through Fall camp?

    Why is BYU's offense struggling? I see two reasons.

    Doman is an inexperienced OC. I tried to sound a little voice of warning as the BYU faithful were busy jumping all over Utah's new offense with Norm Chow at the helm. I tried to say that you have a new OC too and he has no experience, but my warning fell on deaf ears. I really feel bad that you guys now have to go through the disappointment of getting your hopes so high only to have them dashed.

    The second reason I see is Jake Heaps isn't as good as advertised. Why? I don't know. Coming out of high school he was supposed to be the best in the country, but he has never shown that in college. Every time he has come up against a top notch defense he hasn't been able to consistently produce. I don't know why that is, but unless the BYU coaches figure it out it wil be a long 3 years.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 2:22 p.m.

    ATC,

    You're right, but Doman is the one who decides when and how to run the ball.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 2:17 p.m.

    TrollPolice,

    Don't tell the Auburn defense that. I think Utah State's offense can move the ball against any team in the country and they've proven that.

  • CoachWinWA POULSBO, WA
    Sept. 15, 2011 11:54 a.m.

    If I am a coach about to face BYU, what is my scouting report?

    I've seen two games this year, and in both I saw...
    A team unwilling to take risks.
    A run first philosophy to set up the pass.
    Offensive and defensive linemen who are not conditioned to play 4 quarters at full strength.
    An offensive line that is dependent on line blocking schemes called by the center prior to the snap that cant do it when the defense is moving around.
    I saw two big receivers that do not have the speed to get separation from corners on the long ball, but who do run good crisp routes and have good hands.
    I saw a very solid defense with its only weakness being that to effectively limit the passing game, it requires 7-8 in zone pass coverage, which limits their ability to pressure the quarterback.

    Utah's Gameplan?
    Hide defensive alignment with movement
    Man to man defense on receivers
    Hurry up offense to tire the defense
    Wynn will have time to throw, so use it. Pass to set up the run.
    Risk some strong blitzes to rattle Jake early.
    8 in the box to stuff the run.

  • CalmDown Frost Free, Utah
    Sept. 15, 2011 11:21 a.m.

    CoachWinWa,
    Your comments are well thought out and couldn't be more correct!

    Also, was anyone else as ecstatic as I was near the end of the article, an article about offense no less, to read that Heaps could not be reached for a comment only.to have that ecstasy dashed to ruins with the inclusion of more of his "blah, blah, blah"?

    Coaches, time to let a man take some snaps!

  • Runner Chandler, AZ
    Sept. 15, 2011 11:10 a.m.

    If the running game is the problem, then why didn't Kayria get a single carry in the Texas game? He is the stongest back out of the three that we have and the power run game was our only hope against a strong Texas D-Line. Di Luigi was dancing all over the field but could never get up the field.

    Also, what happened to the passing game to the TE in the 2nd half of the Texas game. And, what about the throws to C. Hoffman? Where were they?

    And finally, does this BYU offense have any sort of up-tempo pace that they can go with? From the play calling to the blocking schemes, everything seems to take a very long time.

    This is on Doman and is what coaches do. He needs to get it worked out and worked out now. There is no reason why this is being figured out going into the 3rd week of the season.

    Here's hoping for major improvement this week and hoping that he doesn't get totally out-coached again by the Utah D-Coordinator like he did by the Texas guy.

  • CoachWinWA POULSBO, WA
    Sept. 15, 2011 10:22 a.m.

    Mendenhall is a defensive coach. As a defensive coach, you want long 12 play drives to score, to run the clock and allow your defense time to rest. Quick 3-4 play drives for scores result in tired defenses and shoot outs.

    The coach wants to win with defense. When they talk about establishing the running game, its not that they dont think the passing game will work, its that the philosophy they have chosen is based on run first to establish play action and the passing game.

    Deviation from this would be capitulating and they think that if they "execute" they will win with this philosophy.

    They need to take a page from Texas... Win

    Texas went to the zone read offense with a dual qb system because that was what was required to WIN the game. They adjusted to what they thought would work. BYU under Mendenhall is not going to be that flexible, because that is not what they are about. Their philosophy is execute what we do, and if we dont execute, we lose trying.

    I'll take a win, even if it means our defense is a little tired and gives up an extra touchdown.

  • COUGARNATE Lyman, WY
    Sept. 15, 2011 9:57 a.m.

    Keep flapping your gums chris b and idaho aggie. I'll do my talking after we beat both the utes and aggies. Aggies snuck up on Auburn and were out played in the first half by weber st. They will not beat BYU. The utes will have trouble scoring against BYU. Go Cougs.

  • IDC Boise, ID
    Sept. 15, 2011 9:54 a.m.

    @dustman "I graduated from BYU. I'm a BYU fan. But please don't compare Norm Chow to Doman. Doman isn't anywhere near Norm Chow. Every coach in America knows who Norm Chow is, and they know because he brought an effective pass game to college football."

    Norm Chow is to football what Derrick Fisher is to basketball. Both of them used to be pretty good.

  • Square Kokonut Orem, Utah
    Sept. 15, 2011 9:37 a.m.

    If BYU continues to try to establish a passing game by first opening up a non-existent running game with it's present nonproductive running back corps they'll have to rely solely on last second 'pulling a rabbit out of a hat' variety victories from it's overworked defense! I agree with many previous posts, be the BYU of old...pass, pass, pass...and what resemblance of a running game you do have will open up!

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    Sept. 15, 2011 9:04 a.m.

    Here is a statement from "I Am the 12th Man, Reviewing the Week in Big 12 Football", September 12, 2011

    "The only thing worse than Texas' offense was BYU's coaching, which completely went into a shell in the second half. It was almost as if BYU was afraid to try to win the game, and hoped they could do enough to not lose it. If I were a Cougar fan, I'd be livid at the coaching staff."

    I am a ardent BYU fan; been so for over 40 years. But I agree with the blogger and I am livid with the coaching staff.

    BYU coaching in the second half of the Texas game was absolutely dismal on both sides of the ball. If I hear another "we have to execute better" I think I will scream.

    Bottom line is that the BYU coaching staff in the second half lost the Texas game. They better get things figured out by Saturday. If they do, BYU will win.

  • mrmugooo Snohomish, WA
    Sept. 15, 2011 8:43 a.m.

    You just couldn't go an entire article without a quote from Heaps could you? It was a good (not great) article until then. STOP QUOTING THE KID UNTIL HE HAS SOMETHING WORTH TALKING ABOUT!! So far he just wastes air with his talk talk talk. When he starts producing and proving that he KNOWS what he's talking about - - THEN USE QUOTES FROM HIM!

  • Unlucky HEBER CITY, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 8:27 a.m.

    Jake Heaps should have never been compared to the great quarterbacks, Steve Young, Ty Detmer, Jim McMahon, Robbir Bosco and others. Iremember a couple of other quartbacks from the past who were anointed the next great one and couldn't handle the expctations, Shawn Covey and Matt Berry. John Beck finally could his senior year. Maybe Heaps will be good by his senior year I don't see it happening sooner than that, against the good teams that is. Please don't bring up the end of last year, those teams were awful.Remember when the next one comes to not make the expectations too high for them at first. BYU fans you are not entitled to anything different than any other fan base. You are only as good as your players and this year it looks like you might have the third best team in the state again.

  • dustman Nampa, ID
    Sept. 15, 2011 7:59 a.m.

    Doman's horrible right now. He could get better. They have some talented players this year. I think its a waste of talented players to give them an inexperienced O.C.

    I graduated from BYU. I'm a BYU fan. But please don't compare Norm Chow to Doman. Doman isn't anywhere near Norm Chow. Every coach in America knows who Norm Chow is, and they know because he brought an effective pass game to college football. Without Chow and L. Edwards, we'd still be seeing the option offense all day, every game. Opponents who play Chow are just figuring him out these last 6 years, but he still is relevant. Doman has yet to prove his relevancy.

  • Ldsfan South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 6:36 a.m.

    These are not bumps, they are more like mountains. Can't fix confidence. Can't fix lack of experience quickly. BYU is not even close to the caliber and quickness of USC. Look for Utah's defense to have a few picks. Utah will play ball control and should pull it out.

    Utah 24
    BYU 17.

  • byufootballrocks Herndon, VA
    Sept. 15, 2011 5:30 a.m.

    "The biggest issue right now is we have to be able to find a way to run the football more effectively."

    Coach Mendenhall

    Demonstrates our coach sees the game differently than many of our fans.

    Had hopes this year that BYU would return to its roots on offense and be a pass-first team.

    Saw Texas Tech play California in a bowl game just a few years ago - they blew California out with an exciting, BYU-attack-passing-offense. Had deja vu watching them.

    The run game did not cost us the Texas game. Conservative play-calling did.

    Watch the replay of the first half. It's realistic BYU could have been up 28-0 at the half had they gone for the kill in those drives instead of turning to "dink and dunk" when the field was shortened.

    On the second drive, after quickly moving down the field to the 16, BYU basically runs up the middle on first and second down, throwing away those downs. Texas had already demonstrated some real toughness against the run game. We were left with one pass opportunity, and had to kick the field goal. A wimpout - emblematic of the whole game.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 2:44 a.m.

    Another 1-4 start

    Another loss to Utah

    Another loss to Utah State

    It's a great time to be a Ute or Aggie.

    We'll send Roses

  • CoachWinWA POULSBO, WA
    Sept. 15, 2011 2:42 a.m.

    Doman is on the sideline for one reason. Jake Heaps is a scared rabbit and he has to be there for him to coach him up. Doman needs to cut the cord and climb the stairs and get in the booth. Jake needs to step out of the shadow and back up all the talk filling the airwaves and newsprint. And BYUs two big receivers need to get open, make the blocks, play til the whistle blows, or sit it out.

    I think this will happen soon enough, but I wish it had happened a week ago. We'd be 2-0

  • Square Kokonut Orem, Utah
    Sept. 15, 2011 12:25 a.m.

    Absent last minute defensive heroics in the Ole Miss game, outcome of the last two games hinged literally on Heaps miscues! The underwhelming offensive output from the much media-hyped incoming OC is prompting many to question the untimely departure of former OC Robert Anae!

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Sept. 14, 2011 11:54 p.m.

    @ trenster,

    I agree that maybe Doman should be up in the booth. Seems his head is swirling with all the activity around him down on the sidelines.

    Up in the booth, he'll have a better view of what's happening in opponents' defenses. And, he'll have a much less stressful location from which to think.

    I think he's putting too much stock in his interaction with the QB.

  • badlandscougar great plains, sd
    Sept. 14, 2011 11:51 p.m.

    we weren't almost last with Mr Anae. think about that, all the hype and that's all... hype for now.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Sept. 14, 2011 11:51 p.m.

    Bumps?

    Try potholes!

    I'm a Doman fan, but am realistic in not expecting too much from him right away. He's a rookie at this, afterall.

    We should see a little bit of improvement versus Utah on Saturday night. I'm not expecting a lot. (Notice how many night games we have this year?)

    If the offense improves each week, BYU should run the table, including against TCU in Dallas. That's far enough down the road that BYU's offense should be settled in by then.

    Good thing BYU has a bye week before the Hawaii game. That'll pay dividends there.

    Good thing, too, that BYU's defense this year is legit. But against teams with great offenses, BYU's offense will need to be much better than it is now.

    Can't wait to see what's improved come Saturday night.

  • trentster TUSTIN, CA
    Sept. 14, 2011 11:12 p.m.

    It would be interesting to learn how many offensive coordinators stand on the sidelines during games. In the case of the cougars--who is up in the booth feeding Doman the plays? It seems to me the filtering process may be too complicated and time consuming--especially for an inexperienced crew. Perhaps it may be time to consider for the "decision-maker" to be in the booth, away from the distractions that exist on the sidelines, where he can focus and view the field of play and not be tempted to get so caught up in the excitement and emotion that exists with the participants.

  • ATC Stockton, CA
    Sept. 14, 2011 11:12 p.m.

    Brandon Doman has called plays for two games against good teams, give him a little slack. Also Doman just calls the plays, it is the players job to execute. I think once we have a consistent running game it will allow the offense to open up.

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Sept. 14, 2011 10:53 p.m.

    @JNA

    Brandon Doman is one of the rising stars in major college football coaching and will be cranking out great BYU teams long after Norm Chow retires, which, from the way Chow's team played the last time he visited LES, may have been a several years ago...

    BYU 59
    UCLA 0

    in a game that could have been even worse, if Bronco hadn't called off the dogs.

  • TrollPolice Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 14, 2011 10:45 p.m.

    Don't worry, Idaho.Aggie, Utah State's offense won't score enough against BYU's defense to worry Coach Mendenhall.

  • JNA Layton, UT
    Sept. 14, 2011 10:40 p.m.

    Brandon Doman is not ready for D-1 football, but in typical BYU fashion, they just don't take it to the next level in decision making and this will be the reason that they will never make it to a BCS Bowl.

  • Laser Iowa City, IA
    Sept. 14, 2011 10:28 p.m.

    Doman gets a free pass for a couple of seasons. It's his first time in the OC saddle and he'll do just fine.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 14, 2011 10:21 p.m.

    So Doman is under pressure to send the ball downfield more?
    Would love to be a defensive coordinator knowing that's the plan...

  • Idaho.Aggie Idaho Falls, ID
    Sept. 14, 2011 10:09 p.m.

    Don't worry BYU fans! After USU beats BYU Coach Mendenhall can fire Coach Doman and take over the play calling too. Things will get then get better. You can credit the USU pounding for turning your season around - again.