To "LDS Liberal | 6:36 p.m." how is Glenn Beck a hypocrite. If the
reason why you and ohter of your ilk attack him so hard is because he is a
hypocrite, why don't you attack liberals that are hypocrites also?Socialism is wrong, the prophets have said so. Had you bothered to read or
understand why he went there, it wasn't for the political or social policies of
their government. He went there to rally support for a country that has
neighbors looking to destroy it. They are the US's greatest ally in that area,
and the current administration has been throwing them under the bus lately.How is it hypocrisy to defend people who would be destroyed if the US
wasn't their ally?
RedShirt | 8:16 a.m. Sept. 17, 2011 USS Enterprise, UT Just
look at the comments on any article that says something positive about Glenn
Beck. Your ilk has more to say negatively about Glenn Beck, and their desire to
shut him down and restrict what he can do than there are total posts on this
article so far.Hypocrisy, thy name is Liberalism. ============== That's because Glenn Beck is a Hypocrite.[Like most Conservatives].He rips Socialism daily,Then goes
to Israel routing "Restoring Courage"And sings the praises of
Israel.Israel is a Liberal Socialist country.Now, who's
To "LDS Liberal | 12:27 p.m." I am not word smithing. If you look at
the article that I referenced, the liberals there were going nuts. Here, the
best that any of your ilk has managed is to essentially say that they don't like
the game.If something was wrong, and required strong language before
when the hate was directed at liberals, why are those of your ilk so uncaring
now?The fact is that when somebody says anything against liberals,
you do cry out for censorship and restrictions. When somebody says something
against conservatives you either cheer them on or else are indifferent.Just look at the comments on any article that says something positive
about Glenn Beck. Your ilk has more to say negatively about Glenn Beck, and
their desire to shut him down and restrict what he can do than there are total
posts on this article so far.Hypocrisy, thy name is Liberalism.
RedShirt | 8:12 a.m. Sept. 16, 2011 USS Enterprise, UT TO "LDS
Liberal | 10:55 a.m." and "Screwdriver | 9:55 p.m." again, the
hypocricy of your ilk is on display. The best your ilk has done so far is to say
that the game is dumb or that they don't like it.============= What the flip do you want RedShirt? Honestly.You a
word-smithing.If one says - Freedom of speech, let the free market
decide - You'd be fine with it for Conservative ideals, and against it for
liberal ideals.If one was to say - censor and restrict the game! -
You'd holler Freedom of Speech and Big Government intervention, again...picking
and choosing only YOUR ideals, and not for others.That's not how
America and our Constitition is set-up.Stop trying to trample the
The game is disgusting, but free speech must be protected with the same vigor
that conservatives protect the right of the corporations and the rich to make
unlimited political contributions.
TO "LDS Liberal | 10:55 a.m." and "Screwdriver | 9:55 p.m."
again, the hypocricy of your ilk is on display. The best your ilk has done so
far is to say that the game is dumb or that they don't like it.As an
example of liberals showing more outrage, look at the comments for the DN story
"Timeout for civility appears to be over". The same liberals who
comment today were much more outraged by perceived attacks by conservatives than
they are about this video game.Again, I will say it, the liberals
are hypocrites because they show outrage when the perceive violent symbols being
used against them, but at best show indifference when violent symbols are used
Redshirt is playing word games again. When I say the game is
dispicable he says I must say? When he says renounce, we say?When he says outrage he says ?Redshirt, YOU don't seem all
that outraged really. I didn't hear you say the game was dispicable. You have to
use the word I want you to use. Now say dispicable.
Huh?Fair and balanced?Simply insane?Fox
The only thing different about this game and the old practice of putting your
middle-school nemesis' pic on your dartboard is the technology used to smite in
effigy your enemy. I'm sure anti-Tea Partiers will smugly play the game and
enjoy doing so -- and who cares? If they're playing zombie video games, they're
not astro-turfing, running for office, watching the latest Al Gore global
warming propaganda movie, or advocating for big-government solutions and higher
taxes. Good on them!
Bad taste, particularly violent bad taste, deserves condemnation by any fair
minded person. Forget the political labels just for once.
The "new America", was supposed to be about the Reagan "free
market"; "unregulated" opportunities for venturing capitalists to
create demand and "cash-in"...But, now the Reagan
"free-market" will be "re-defined" as an almost Reagan
"free-market", somewhat regulated, by the those who have the
power/inclination/drive/will/money to do the "re-defining"...?Sort of like the capitalist "Golden Rule"...He who
has the Gold, makes the rules...BTW:I'm
"faux-outraged" at the "faux-outrage" of he/she who brought
us this story. However, I must qualify (re-define) my vote by
writing that I have never bought or played a video game...and never
will.Ron Paul, anyone?
where was the right wing outrage when Beck said that the President had a deep
seeded hatred for white culture?that's far worse IMO than some video
Yet, if liberals had spoken out against it, repubs would automatically take the
opposing view and support it and claim that it's free market. Where
are all the free market proponents now? Wanting government to ban this game?
LOL! Hilarious how the right wing flip flops.
We have got to stop the pendulum swinging farther towards hatred (yes, hatred)
with each presidential cycle.Fortunately for conservatives, they
have miles to go before they come anywhere close to the level of hatred
expressed towards President Bush last time around. The gobsmackingly
hypocritical liberal calls for "civility" after the Giffords incident,
and the blood libel (yes, that's what it was), are actually part and parcel of
liberal hatred for their enemies. Well, liberals, I will do my part
for civility by resolving to hate you just a little less than you hate me. An
added advantage is that I, with my thinking less clouded by hate, will be better
able to think my way clearly to the best way to beat you. I think
part of the fact that liberals are better haters (they get no credit from me for
restricting themselves, generally, to "approved" hatreds like
politics) goes back to their roots in early labor unionism, which -- no matter
what the myths say -- was a truly bloodthirsty, violent culture. Read up on the
Herrin massacre, if you're looking to lose your breakfast.
@anyone talking about Palin's crosshairsIt really means nothing. I
really don't care that she used that because it was pretty obvious that it meant
replacing them via ballots. Would it be better to use something else? Perhaps,
but there are far worse things than that map and plenty of things comparable to
Palin's rhetoric on both sides. If you really want to point to an
example of actually violent rhetoric then look at Joyce Kaufman, a conservative
radio host from Florida who Allen West (R-FL) wanted to make his chief of staff.
She had said to a cheering tea party audience that "if ballots don't
work...bullets will". Now THAT, is violent rhetoric. Why isn't that an
example of things that needs to be toned down? Heck, why didn't I hear of that
one anywhere other than The Rachel Maddow Show? There's even video of it so you
get the full context too. Instead we get to hear about is stupid things like
Palin's crosshairs map and the only reason that is what gets criticized is
because well... nobody knows who Kaufman is, Palin gets ratings, and that's just
'And I'm sure that the guy who shot Giffords didn't look at Sarah Palin's web
site and see the crosshairs before he went after her.' - Flashback | 10:56 a.m.
Sept. 15, 2011 Well, so long as your sure.
'Don't retreat, reload' 'Let's take our country back' All
popular Sarah Palin quotes. As I have mentioned before, Sarah Palin
did not pull the trigger. But the CONSTANT violent refferences and
defemation of character is now a conservative punch-line. Also, you
failed to give ANY examples of Democrats putting cross-hairs on their websites.
Just the claim. Another conservative tactic. Lying. Let's try to REVERSE the tactic. Use the same rhetoric on
you. You, are a 'Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug'. You 'hate
America' and are 'taking away our freedoms.' We should go to your home, and
'take our country back.' This, isn't in some video game Flashback.
These quotes were made by REAL people. Targeting REAL Americans. And, as the norm, conservatives try to justify it. Instead
of, as Redshirt says, be outraged, against it.
Ahh Sound Bite Pagen, there you go again. From these you posted it doesn't look
like any conservative got a pass. And I'm sure that the guy who shot Giffords
didn't look at Sarah Palin's web site and see the crosshairs before he went
after her. Also, I've seen Democrat web sites in the past with crosshairs on
them targeting certain legislative districts. So what's the big deal? IT's a
non-issue. Get off of your high horse.
RedShirt | 10:11 a.m. Sept. 15, 2011 USS Enterprise, UT "You have no outrage. You and your ilk had a bigger fit over crosshairs
on a map than you are having on this video game.Where is your
outrage. So far you exhibit indifference." ===================
Maybe you missed all 24 comments so far RedShirt - "Liberals" have ALL expressed outrage, condemnation and poor sense
of judgement towards this. Not a single supporter. I liked what
Screwdriver | 8:18 a.m. Sept. 15, 2011 said, "Obviously a
dispicable video game that won't be played by the majority of liberals. We're
not the gun crazy population remember?"Let me try one a Glenn
Beck 9/12 Tea Partier rationalization explanation [like used for those
during the "Civil" Town-hall meetings]...How do we know
this wasn't some sort of "Ultra-Conservative" gun-toting, GOP plant,
pretending to be a Liberal - trying to make anyone on the left look bad??To me, that could be the only "logical" explanation.However, we don't use "conspiracy theories" to explain the
inexplicable.Dumb game - move along.
This game is just offensive (and I guess I have to note I'm a liberal for those
who are keeping score).
"Are liberals willing to take the blame when a conservative is injured or
killed by somebody who has been playing that particular video game?" I don't think so, nor should they. Who is this person that
wrote the game?Do you even know his or her name?Are they prominent
leaders in the Democratic party? Are Democrats condoning this game or this
game creator? Is the game creator a sitting Congressmen or running for
office?Can you name one Democrat that has defended or condoned this
game?That is the difference.You want to equate some un
known company's despicable game to the Rhetoric of high ranking party people
that was defended universally and unequivocally by the right.Now
that is a stretch
Good heavens. It is a stupid video game. Get on with your lives. Must we take
offense to everything?
The game is stupid and inappropriate.Liberals were unaware they because
they typically don't read right-winged sites such as Drudge etc.Re:
Counter IntelligenceThe DNC didn't use crosshairs they used bulls eyes.
Republicans support the use of guns and are against gun control. Additionally
there have been examples of right wing people specifically targeting and killing
liberals. Jim Adkisson wrote in his manifesto that liberalism is the worst
problem in America and that Democrats are the terrorists allies before going
into a Universalist Unitarian church and killing two people, injuring seven
others. There is also the case of Byron Williams who targeted the Tides
Foundation and engaged in a shoot out with police after listening to Beck's
programs. I myself, while listening to Hannity and Limbaugh programs heard a
caller to the show say he wanted to "take matters into his own hands"
To "Roland Kayser | 9:15 a.m." and "KJB1 | 9:17 a.m." you
make the point of the letter. You have no outrage. You and your ilk had a
bigger fit over crosshairs on a map than you are having on this video game.Where is your outrage. So far you exhibit indifference.
Yes, Overwhelmingly the "liberals" on this board have denounced this
game.If you find someone that thinks this game is OK, call THEM OUT
specifically.But, then, that's not nearly as much fun as saying
"Liberals think this game is OK"
Yes, the game is juvenile and tasteless, but this just shows how thin-skinned
the Tea Party can be. As usual, they can dish it out...
To Red shirt: Most of the "liberals" here are decidedly not
"ok" with it. Eisenhower Republicans like me are not okay with it. The
game is trash.
Wow, all of the liberals here have missed the point. Let me make it clear,
since you missed it.The point is that if a Conservative did
something that portrayed violence against liberals, the liberals would be out
there screaming about how horrible it was. In this case it is liberals
portraying violence against conservatives, and they are ok with that. It was
the liberals who have said that violence is not acceptable in any form or
speech.Are liberals willing to take the blame when a conservative is
injured or killed by somebody who has been playing that particular video game?
AS much as I find this game disgusting, I have to ask...Do
Conservative really, Really believe in Capitalism and the Free Market?orIs it just lip service to win votes?Censoring, regulating
and making the Government do something about it runs diametrically opposed to
everything the Tea Partiers stands for.You either stand for
something or you don't.You can't cherry pick.BTW - No one has
ever heard of this stupid game, but NOW it's got all kinds of free publicicity
[good or bad] along with $100s of thousands in free adversting.You
should have just ignored it and letting the "Free Market" decide to
let it die-on-the-vine.
And if say Joe Biden had put crosshairs on republican members of congress
pictures and then one of them were shot?It's just dishonest to
compare that to a nobody making a video game comparable to the increadible lack
of judgement Palin showed.
Obviously a dispicable video game that won't be played by the majority of
liberals. We're not the gun crazy population remember?Of course the
author could have done a little research and found that there have been violent
video games shooting Obama, harry Reid and Palosi.There was even a
carnival in Penselvania where they had a picture of obama to throw darts at.And how many pictures of Obama have been shot at during the rush to get
ur' guns before they're taken away by obama scare of just last year?The travesty here is the selective outrage and group blaming by the author.
Yes let's make out all liberals to be the ones shooting guns all the time and
with violent tendencies - if it makes you feel good.
"Why is it so hard to simply acknowledge that this game is hateful and
tasteless"I don't think it is hard.It is hateful
and tasteless, and so far, the "liberals" have mostly taken that
stance. See, that is not so hard. Yes, Palin was about wining
elections. However, the use of cross-hairs was a poor choice. Yes, overblown,
but a poor choice.And to Esquire, I find that the logic of the
right has those "doing the exact same stuff" , while completely true,
is not a defense.With that logic, when will it ever stop?How about this. "Both sides do it, and it is wrong. And I find this
game hateful and tasteless. And I will condemn it whenever it happens by
whoever does it."
Ha! I especially love the "We tricked the god people into believing in tax
cuts for the rich" zombie. That's hilarious. But the Koch Brothers zombie
is pretty scary looking. Yikes.
Gee, this is what you should expect by being tea party zombies. You think you
can be unrelentingly antagonist to the American public without this kind of
thing? Be glad it's just a video game. You probably need to search the net a
little more for the conservative analog of this game.
Here we go again, conservatives complaining about the actions of a group on the
other side, when they have people doing the exact same stuff. But here's the
rub: I had not heard of this game (nor the group) before you told me. The
surest way for this to fade away is to shut up, but you have turned the light on
it, probably what the creators of the game wanted. You can't protest everything
out there that you don't like. The world is too big. Most stuff comes and goes
with little notice until whiners like this stir it up.
"Words turn into bullets, apparently, only when uttered by
Republicans."All incitements for violence are despicable, even
in jest. Never heard of the game in question, and it sounds like a
terrible game. Questions: Are this game's creators running for
office? Do they have their own radio and cable shows? Do they author books in
which they label their critics as "filth" and "traitors"?
Don't worry, Glenn. The liberal zombie head smashing counter-game is sure to
follow this one within hours. It's not really politics, it's extended
There will be those on the left and the right who cross the line.We
should repudiate them ALL when they do. (as olbermann did in this case)However, it is unreasonable to paint with such a broad brush.Liberals as a group did not develop this game. A person or company did. And
most likely their motive was money, although they probably ARE liberals.I find it hard to equate some un-named company with specific words of
specific people. Kind of cowardly.This article profiles a pathetic
game and equates it with Liberals.I doubt that many liberals feel this
game is appropriate (but, if you look, you can find some who do and those are
the ones who get all the press)Personally, I wish Obama had called
out Maxine Waters and James Hoffa for their pathetic remarks. They are
SPECIFIC, high profile people. Call them out PERSONALLY for things that they
said.Don't use Glenn Becks remarks then say "see what
conservatives say?" Call out Beck specifically when he crosses the
line.In the end, we can only be responsible for our own words and
The game only wants to kill them once they become zombies. If dems were to
zombify, I suppose they'd want to add them to the list of the "to be
destroyed" as well.Most of these violent games are ridiculous
anyway. They inure us to violence against other members of our race (human).
Is it any wonder that you can't open the paper anymore without reading articles
about someone killing someone else? Even in mass numbers?
I've grown weary of people telling me I need to be outraged over something.
It's no coincidence these attempts to convince us we should be angry are always
from someone pushing an agenda.
What a stupid and tasteless video game. Go ahead and boycott. I was ready to
agree with the author completely until the very end when he only quoted the part
of the Hoffa quote that they showed on Fox news. The whole quote very clearly
shows that Mr. Hoffa was talking about voting them out of office, not about
going after them violently.