@ snack pacyou keep sayin theyre bringin up old stuff right? look at you
byu fans keep bringin up an old nat. title. whats the last important game byu
has even won? seems to me utah fans win this argument of bcs games cause theyve
atleast been in 2 in the last 10 yrs unlike byu. funny thing is im not even a
utah fan i just cant stand to keep listening to you arrogant byu fans.
DontMUSSwUtahRadio is only one easily measurable indicator of the
size of each fan base.Try to minimize the numbers all you want to,
but an average of 75,000 Utah fans followed the Utes on the "Home of the
Utes", while an average of 184,000 BYU fans followed the Cougars on the
"Home of the Cougars, every football game last season.That's
more than a 2-1 measurable difference in fans.Just because you can't
accept the numbers, doesn't mean they're not accurate.
@forreal peopleI suppose if you believe it then it isn't a lie. It
just isn't real.The rest of us know the truth.LOL!
Any game BYU plays is on the national radar.
Re: DontMUSSwUtah @ 4:09pmAmong your "Everyone else" are
Boise State fans, more here than you might think.
How many games between two unranked teams get a lot of national attention?There may be a few, but why should this game get a lot of attention?The
2008 game got attention, and deserved so. 11-0 Utah vs 10-1 BYU.No
one nationally cares about 1-1 Utah vs 1-1 BYU.
BlueCoug-You're seriously basing this estimation on the amount of
people who listen to the radio? Last i checked, most people liked to watch their
sports on these things called television sets. I won't pretend that Utah has
more fans than BYU, but a 2:1 in-state ratio is ridiculous.From a
rational standpoint(and unofficial because i'm unable to access any sort of
statistic at the moment), its probably more like 49% of the state are BYU fans
(about 70%[Being generous]of the church, which makes up about 70% [again being
generous] of the state). Utah fans make up about 38% of the states population
(Getting 20% of the population of the church, which is 14% of the total
population, and 80% of everyone else, which is about 24%). The other 13ish% are
the other Utah schools and people who don't care.For those who don't
care to read:BYU- 49%Utah- 38%Everyone else- 13%Yeah,
not quite 2:1.
Neither team is ranked, they're both 1-1, and Utah hasn't beaten an FBS
opponent; so why should this year's game be getting national hype?September is way too early to play this game. It needs a full season's buildup
to do the intensity of the game between fans and teams justice.
BlueCoug"the split in Utah is at least 2 to 1 in favor of
BYU"Now you're really hitting below the belt bringing actual,
verifiable statistics into the discussion.BYU season average -
184,000 - during a 7-6 seasonUtah season average - 75,000 - during a 10-3
"but let me ask you about real football fans who understand the
game"You're seriously comparing the football
"understanding" of young, wet-behind-the-ears 20-somethings who didn't
know that football existed 8 years ago (pre-2003) to fans who've been immersed
in great football for decades?Get over yourself.#1 >
#2 no matter how you spin itWin a national award of any kind --
national championship, Heisman Trophy, national individual award, national
college football hall of fame -- then you can talk about your football
"understanding".The fact that you keep beating the BCS
drum demostrates just how little you "understand".
Chris B | 8:57 a.m. Sept. 14, 2011 Salt Lake City, UT It's
just another practice for an AQ team against a non-AQ team.===How ya doing Chris B?Has your AQ team beat any other AQ teams
since becoming and AQ team?Oh, sorry, a 9 pt. loss. But
finally, your AQ team will get a shot at playing on ESPN this year. Even you
have got to love that national exposure. Maybe your team can get up for that?
BYU 34Utah 14btw, wwookie, the split in Utah is at least 2 to
1 in favor of BYUBYU Football on KSL Radio outperformed Utah
Football on ESPN 700 by a better than two-to-one margin in most key demographics
(2010 season, game-by-game analysis).Team/Station - Season Average -
Season High - Best Five AverageBYU on KSL radio - 184,000 - 229,200
(v. Utah on 11/27/10) - 212,700Utah on ESPN 700 - 75,000 - 153,100 (v. TCU
on 11/6/10) - 97,200Other media would show the same proportions, but
it's much harder to measure since television ratings don't distinguish between
BYU and Utah fans, and we no longer have KSL and KUTV simulcasting of BYU-Utah
Inside Utah, the split is definitely not 2 to 1 as the self-proclaimed Mr.
SportsAuthority believes. Keep on living in your bubble.Outside the
state you are most definitely correct. but let me ask you about real football
fans who understand the game - that is most decidely in favor of the Utes, the
BCS busters.And some fans say they don't care about this game (why
even comment then?), but this game is big. I get to call my parents and let them
know that for another year, they won't dare bring up the fact I am wearing Utah
gear when I come see them. Work colleagues will become open game for some fun at
their (and their team's) expense. Utah 24BYU 17GO
forreal people You're really clueless if you think that BYU/Utah
divide is Utah Valley/Salt Lake Valleyhalf the college football fans
in Salt Lake Valley are BYU fansfan in Orem is close, the overall
state is split aboutBYU(60%) Utah(30%) Utah State(6%) Weber
State(3%) Southern Utah(1%)outside Utah, the Utes are a very distant
2nd to BYU65% of BYU's students are from outside Utahonly 10% of Utah's students are from outside Utahplus there are
hundreds of thousands of BYU fans outside Utah who never attended BYU, but very
few Utah fans outside Utah who didn't attend UtahBYU's recent trip
to Mississippi is an indication of that:At the Friday night
fireside, the stake center was standing room only; every nook and cranny of the
building where a chair could be placed was filled with BYU fans from the
area.It's doubtful if that had been Friday night pep rally for Utah,
that the Utes would have had even a handful of locals at the pep rally.
forreal people: take a chill pill. I think the point was there would be a lot of
BYU fans around the world watching the game, since it won't be on KJZZ. Speaking
of providing evidence: "The fanship in Utah is split between USU UTAH and
BYU" - You're right, the split is 5%, 30% and 65%. Please provide evidence
to the contrary. If it was an even split between schools, someone other than
KJZZ would have picked up your other games. The PAC is going to come to realize
in coming years that they miscalculated when they thought they would pick up the
SLC market by adding the u.
oh, and i forgot to mention the fact that at least half of the LDS inside the
state of utah are NOT BYU fans. SL valley has 1.3 million people and
utah county has how many?The fanship in Utah is split between USU
UTAH and BYU.
There are not "millions of byu fans accross the county and outside the
U.S." tuning in. Who out side the US watches college football, especially
the Y? Please tell me you have some ratings evidence of this "outside the
US claim" and your not just making it up.with 6 mill in the US,
and 1/2 of them children under the age of 12 bringing it to 3 mill, and half of
that living in Utah bringing it to 1.5 mill, and undesputebly some of those are
not die-hard football fans - so lets be generous and say 3/4 of them are
(including 100% of the woman)- bringing it to a grand total of 1 mill viewers
out side the state of Utah. 1 million. Does anyone have
a problem with my math or my completely incorrect assumption that 3/4 of all men
and woman over the age of 12 will tune in for every football game that their
favorate team plays?Why keep up the baisless claim of all the
national viewer ship? It's actually impossible if you doe the math.
Every Y game lacks national hype.
ESPN Prime-time thanks to BYU's contract. A lot of people will be watching this
to wind down their Saturday football fix. Maybe not a lot of Ute fans
outside Utah but millions of BYU fans across the country and outside the U.S.
Game of the year for Utah fans after that embarrassing beat down to a crippled,
unranked Trojan squad in Utah's PAC 12 debut eliminated the Utes from the
conference race.Just another BCS opponent for BYU as the Cougars
start building momentum for a great 2011 finish.BYU 34Utah
14Utah fans really do care about this game, they're just pretending
indifference so it doesn't hurt so bad when they lose.
Hellooo:"...no one on the east coast, but very few die hard U
fans cared about last weeks USC-Utah game. It was played after most there had
turned off the TV and gone to bed."The game ended just after
midnight here on the East coast. On a Saturday night. People here on the East
coast don't go to bed as early as Provoans. We don't believe when the clock
strikes midnight, breaking into early Sunday morning, that our vehicles will
turn into pumpkins.And for the record, I watched the game over at
one of our local sports grills with a group of my "die hard U" alumni,
and the Utah-USC game was the one being showed on the big screen. Even though
it was on the "Vs." channel.
It's just another practice for an AQ team against a non-AQ team.Nothing to care about here, unless you're the non-AQ team and it makes you
feel like one of the big-boys for a few hours.utah 31byu 17And we don't even care about this game anymore.
No hype because it means nada. BYU has nothing to gain but pride and Utah has
nothing to gain by winning or losing. Two programs going different directions.
It may not have the hype, but it certainly will have more exposure as the game
is televised nationally on ESPN. When the U says national, it must mean it is
not being contacted by the LA media. Because no one on the east coast, but very
few die hard U fans cared about last weeks USC-Utah game. It was played after
most there had turned off the TV and gone to bed.
Well, duh, the teams didn't beat their last opponents, so are not meeting
undefeated. That was needed to create the national hype. Duh.
I've never been fond of kickers acting as holders. Why not prep Jon Hays as the
holder. This gives you an added dimension. USC would have been caught completely
off guard by Hays gettting the snap, standing up and lobbing the ball to a
streaking tight end for a TD....Just a thought.The U/Y game lacks
national attention because of the teams being 1-1. Had they both won last week,
there would be a good chance they would both be ranked. That would generate