Wasn't the Stimulus that Obama pushed through supposed to create all of those
construction jobs, and build schools? Wasn't the tax cuts that he gave us last
December also supposed to give us jobs?Seems like he is taking a
bunch of ideas that he already tried, and is repackaging them. If they failed
before, what makes him think that they will work this time?
Re: JoeBlow | 6:09 p.m. Sept. 13, 2011 The voters in New York and
Nevada gave Obama's 'new' plan two thumbs down. The voted for a Republican
representative to replace Weiner in a district with a ratio of 3-1 for
registered Democratic voters.Translation: Obama's plan is toast
..... and so is he.
After what the voters in New York and Nevada said last night there is every
reason for Republicans to review Obama's new plan under a microscope. His
approval ratings were bad before but now they'll only get worse.
I think its time that our congress start shelving any bills from the president
for further study. Our president does not write our laws or bills, that is the
job of our congress who are being diverted to debate presidential dreams. Tell
Obama to take a number and a seat and we will call him if we need his advice,
which so far has not been welcome. Congress is our law makers and
we need them concentrating on issues to help this country and to stop wasting
funds in corruption and fraud in this countries spending and debts. I think our
president is intentionally diverting our congressmen to wrest power from them as
if he should write our laws.Government spending cannot and will not
create jobs, $18 Trillion dollars later should be proof of that. On
a personal note, we will never have more jobs as long as we are a nation that
has no free industry. We are a dead end economy wishing we were an economy.
If the bill could wait for President Obama to return from his Martha's Vineyard
vacation, why is he in a big hurry now?What's the worst thing that
could happen if there is actually time to read the bill?Hmm, maybe
it'll get picked apart like Obamacare should have been.
The Republicans last April passed a budget bill that included modest budget
retrain that would have avoided the deficit debacle, and placed the country's
businesses in position to know the framework to expect at least through the end
of 2012. The Democrats in the Senate and the President demagoqued it and never
came out with their own bill. So, now President, if I were the Republicans, I
would be saying-pass our bill. His strident class division retorhic on the tax
on upper income people is just partisanship. Everyone knows that the monies
involved will not pay for this or the deficits the President has run up in his
first term. There is little need for the election as the administration's
policies have now led to the highest poverty rates in 17 years. How can the
poor, the young, the elderly give to this administration that has abondon them
for partisan retorhic.
450 Billion Dollars ($450,000,000,000.00) is a great deal of money. Even if
100,000 jobs are created it would be more efficient to just give 100,000
unemployed workers 4.5 million dollars.$450,000,000,000 divided by
100,000 workers = $4,500,000 per worker.I do not think individuals
will see this type of return on the nations $450 Bn invesment.
@joesblow....you give and you get. As of late, the GOP has no room to give.Sorry, but it does not work that way........Says who Joe?Where was the give and take in the Obamacare bill? Oh I get it, its give and
take as long as the looney lefties get to take!
We need out of debt not more spending! Yes, the wealthy need to pay a fair tax
as do we all but they should not be punished for their achievements. Wealthy
people provide jobs.
No need to wait...just let Obama make our stock picks with OUR money.....just
call it......saving yourself a trip to vegas!Solundra ...$500
No patriot.And I would expect that the bill should be available for
review before the vote.And I expect it will be available for
review.Obama is getting a jump on it and getting the public on his
side.Ohhhh the nerve.And, As of yet, I have seen no
blame of the GOP from Obama.It may come, but hold your horses until
Obama does have a significant talent. He would be an excellent used car
salesman. He sure doesn't belong in the White House.
re:JoeBlowYou might want to tune into something other than your
MSNBC first of all. Eric Cantor and John Boehner both indicated a willingness to
support the payroll tax cuts and removing tax loopholes for corporations.
However, BO has stamped his foot and screamed "pass my bill" about 2
dozen times and all of this before anyone has even read the entire bill or has
any clue how this thing is going to be paid for. So JoeBlow, would you buy a
$50000 SUV without first knowing how you would finance it or if the payments
would kill your budget? There is no secret as to why BO wants to ram this thing
through 1. Like the stimulus and Obamacare BO doesn't want anyone to read the
fine print of the bill 2. This is all about his blame game re-election campaign.
BO thinks that people are so dumb that they would buy into the notion that his
so-called jobs bill is a winner and it is the GOP that is at fault for not
hurrying and passing it. He is sooooo eager to start blaming the GOP because
it's all he has to run with.
Wow. President Obama seems more concerned about campaigning for a second term
than listening to his people. No wonder his approval rating is abysmal.First of all, there is no jobs bill. There's a chance there will not be
a jobs bill.Second of all, this is the exact same thing President
Obama tried to lead to address the debt ceiling. Increase taxes, increase
spending, and maybe cut a little spending to appease those testy tea partiers
trying to bring their constituents wishes to the discussion.When
previous attempts to lead failed miserably, why try the exact same method to
lead? President Obama is going from "bad President" to
"The GOP has already said they would support parts of the bill."Oh, you mean the $288 billion in tax cuts?Well Patriot, in a
negotiation, you seldom if never get everything you want.You never
get to go line by line and only accept what works for YOU.You give
and you get. As of late, the GOP has no room to give.Sorry, but it does
not work that way.
After reading portions of this bill, and listening to and reading the debate, it
seems clear to me that the President is pressing Congress to pass this bill so
hard because he knows that this is bad legislation, and wants the provisions
enacted before anyone takes a close look at the language, outcome of enaction
and financial/budgetary consequences.If this was a solid bill, then I
would certainly expect an invitation to scutinize the legislation. All we hear
is, "Pass this bill!" From his Congressional address [in introducing
the bill] to his campaign rhetotic; that same call resonates constantly, and
should be a warning to Congress. They should study, calculate and scrutinize
everything in the language. If not, they could very well be caught in yet
another legislative blunder that is eroding public policy and confidence in our
As soon as barack tells us why unemployment soared to 11% when he said it would
not reach 8% if he was given his first spendathon of 787 billion.....we'll
He is in such a hurry to pass this bill,Maybe hoping no one will read it like
the healthcare bill.Are we sure Nancy Pelosi didn't write this bill ? Her
philosophy is we need to pass this bill so we will know what is in it.I'm sure
Obama doesn't want it looked at very long. We might find that each job cost
thousands of dollars to create.
re:JoeBlownot true. The GOP has already said they would support
parts of the bill.
seems like this is the same song and dance we heard when Obamacare was being
rammed down our throats. Why wait - just pass the first bill. Right - that
turned out real well didn't it.
There is virtually no plan that the GOP would support. Proposing
ANYTHING is an exercise in futility.
Pass the bill now and read/understand it later. This seems to be a recurrent
The bank thing started with Bush so dont lay that on one person. most of the
bank people support the repulican party because they keep working so there is no
regulations and the whole houseing colapse they started by giving bad laws
Mr. Obama has lost his credibility with thinking Americans as evidenced by his
low opinion poll numbers. Before buying a used car from a slick talking used
car salesman it would be appropriate to verify that there is an engine under the
hood. Surely Obama would expect us to review his plan before buying it .....
IF Mr. Obama is recommending it then there is very serious concerns that
Congress should consider. HE seems to think that throwing money at an issue
will solve it. He has proven that with his original TARP funds. The banks
simply put in their coffers and passed it on to their stakeholders. They did
nothing to help the homeowner. His track record is horrible.