A mighty fine goodly action by Church leaders who truly understand what it takes
to "succor the weak, lift up the hands that hang down, and strengthen the
when you go making gifts of mercy, do not blow a trumpet ahead of you, just as
the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be
glorified by men. Truly I say to YOU, They are having their reward in full.
3 But you, when making gifts of mercy, do not let your left hand know what
your right is doing, 4 that your gifts of mercy may be in secret; then your
Father who is looking on in secret will repay you.Matt. 6:2-4
solandi20why don't you do something besides criticize good works? The
church is really tooting it's horn. Get a life and do something good. Sorry you
are so miserable with yourself that you can only find fault.
Ute alumnisince when was quoting a bible scripture so criticizing? mormons
are versed in the bible are they not?
I hope they take lots of pictures and videos of the old building before it goes.
It's a good way to remember.
It appears to me from the photos that is was the American Cancer Society that
held the press conference and was "tooting the horn" and not The
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
solandi20, I offer two points.1- The sermon on the mount is
literally the words from Jesus Christ, so far as it is translated correctly over
2000 years and across languages. While the most accurate understanding of the
sermon can only come from Christ himself, I would offer one alternative to your
use of the scripture. - Scripture often appears to contradict itself to those
who want to criticize religion, no? Well, these criticisms do not understand the
real principle and doctrine of revelation. If Christ said to one crowd 'do not
do this' and another 'do this' then would I be right if I used one of those
quotes against a people of my choosing? No. The Bible teaches us not to contend
and dispute with each other. We should look for good in each other, look for
agreement. We should not be looking for a fight.If one applied those
versus to everyone, then Christ would also be guilty every time he vocalizes any
of his own good works, no?2- To argue 'using the bible to condemn
another's actions isn't criticism' is saying 'my criticizing isn't criticism'
and therefore illogical.Christ- The prince of peace, not contention.
How is it that a writer who works for a paper that is OWNED BY THE LDS CHURCH
can't get the name of the Church right in captions for an article?It
is the "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" That's
"r-d" not "r D" For someone working at the
Deseret News, this is simply an unacceptable error.
@Solandi20Katie Eccles is with the American Cancer Society, not the
LDS Church. The banners say ACS, not LDS. David Burton, who oversees this type
of thing for the LDS Church was not even at the ceremony. Seems to me you need
to brush up on the reasons you use to find fault with others and spread your
brand of bigotry.
By telling about this they will get donations to build the building. Love to
hear good stories.
Solandi20, perhaps you can tell me why you think the LDS church is blowing a
trumpet on this one, considering the program was done by Katie Eccles of the
ACS. Second you can tell me when I should apply this:"Let
your alight so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify
your Father which is in heaven."Matthew 5:15Yes. We
Mormons are well versed with the bible.
How can I contribute?
Mip, I am not Mormon but that answer rocked!
Naught shall comfort as wouldeth inexpensive pharmaceuticals.
Very nice of the Church to help in this way. It will be a great blessing to many
cancer patients, both in and out of the Church. This is a very good thing. Thank
A great gesture by the LDS church. Nothing to gripe about here.
How would people know there is such a wonderful place coming, if it were not
publicized? That is what a public service is all about, a service to the
public. What a blessing to all those in need, it will make their lives a little
lighter at a very dark time for them. Yes, we need the light to shine!!
Re: solandi20 | 5:36 p.m. Sept. 13, 2011The LDS Church didn't blow
their trumpet ahead of them as you've suggested. The Deseret News made us aware
of their generosity. There are those who oppose every mention of the LDS Church
and they certainly don't want the world to know of good deeds done by this
church.Congratulations go to the American Cancer Society!!
My son, George, gave his all in his fight against cancer in Salt Lake City. I
will somehow find a way to donate in his name. $1.00 from each parent who has
lost a child to this horror will quickly get the job done.
Odd isn't it. Church gets critisized (sp?) for having to much money and then
roundly thumped for giving to a wonderful organization like ACS. Let you light
so shine, indeed.
My family has three three-year-olds who can handle the demolition for you right
away. All we ask is to return them when it is finished. One of them is a
Solandi;If you were able to get over your bitterness towards the LDS
church you would be able to see the tremendous amount of good that they do
locally and throughout the world. Truly a Christian church as proven by their
actions. I see it every day. While living in the MidWest about 5 years
ago, my small community was ravaged by floods. I watched the volunteer center
set up by the local government. I was thrilled to see an entire tractor trailer
rig sent by the LDS church full of cleaning and sanitary kits pull in. We
unloaded the entire truck into the general area of the volunteer center. I also
personally purchased and delivered, in behalf of the LDS church, several
thousand dollars of much needed items purchased at a local department store who
gave a substantial discount. othing was required in return. No announcement was
made."Let your alight so shine before men, that they may see your
good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."Matthew
5:15Also; the LDS church needs to bring to light the truth about what they
stand for in the midst of darkness that your kind create.
@Hutterite: I don't understand your comment or what it has to do with the LDS
Church donating this to help support cancer victims and their families????
Maybe you could clarify your point for me, sometimes I'm a little slow on the
The LDS Church give more and provides more for people of their faith AND people
of other faiths worldwide than ANY other Church in the world.Fact.
Ha, JRJ you beat me to it. I was going to suggest a regional pine wood derby
competition or a good rousing church basketball game.That otta finish off
the demo.Good to see good use of the church's resources.Makes me
happy to do my part.
@USAloverNot all charity given is in the form of cash thus actual
charitable contributions are skewed because actions such as volunteerism are not
taken into account. Cash is good, but the selfless people donating themselves
personally to causes are of many different beliefs both secualr and
religious.Fact: Studies of religious belief and generosity that
focused on NON-CASH giving found interesting results. In terms of donating
blood, the religious belief or non-belief of the donors made absolutely no
difference at all to the frequency or amount donated. Likewise, a survey of
American doctors who were willing to forgo lucrative medical careers in order to
work with the poor in the U.S. or overseas showed negligible differences between
the religious and the secular, with 35% of the selfless doctors self-identified
non-believers, as compared to 28% Catholics and 26% Protestants.As
in most research of this type, there is a danger of relying too much on an
organizations or peoples's self-reporting of their behavior, especially where
something as admired as charitable giving is concerned.Your fact
probably came from the Deseret News study of this and as such can just as well
be regarded as_biased.
"The LDS Church give more and provides more for people of their faith AND
people of other faiths worldwide than ANY other Church in the world."USALover, Do you think your comment helps or hurts your church's image?
Just to add....I see Solandi as saying that there is no necessity to
"toot your own horn" so to speak when it comes to doing charitable
deeds.In the language most of you should accept: Jesus says that the
hypocrite will give to the poor, but they will do it in such a way that people
will notice them and praise them for their generosity. Jesus says that when you
give in that manner that you are not pleasing God, but that the applause from
man is the only reward you will receive. Many do the same thing today. When your
churches raise money for their charitable needs, they offer ways to make sure
other people know that they gave the gift. There are many people in this world
that are silently charitable. All charity is good and much charity goes
unrecognized. There is no need to declare that you or your organization is more
charitable or more giving or more anything! Charity is in the realm of believers
and non-believers alike and ALL of it does good in the world. It's not a
competiton to see who can give the most. It ALL adds up!
Solandi: Ouch! I guess it's time to try a different strategy of criticism.
How about the one that the LDS Church never does anything for the poor and needy
Many comments have missed a point. The LDS Church does in fact 'trumpet' their
own good doings, and very frequently. HOWEVER, there is absolutely nothing wrong
with it.The problem with using the Scripture to criticize the Church
on this issue is the fact that it's the Church and not a person. If I went
around saying 'I do great things for everyone, look at me' ... that's one thing
... but when God says 'I do great things' it's an entirely different matter.The irony is that we now find comments saying 'I'm Christian and your
Church shouldn't do the work of God, your members don't believe in what they say
they do, and despite your so-called charitable works... you are all doing things
against God as I want to falsely interpret Him and His word.' --- Now, I'm not
phrasing it this way to ridicule those who are criticizing the Church on the
grounds of how they interpret the Bible, but simply remarking that such comments
have no place according to the peaceful and non-contentious teachings of the
Bible- AND they really don't belong on a forum where good work has been done,
and we'll praise the good!
joeblowand your comments are designed to help the image of the church?
American Cancer Society, President Monson, all involved, THANK YOU!My beautiful sister passed away at the University of Utah Hospital in July.
She had cervical cancer. She lived in central Utah and received most of her
treatments at Utah Valley RMC, but many, many times we drove her into Salt Lake
City for various day surgeries and exams. We were just preparing for starting
chemotherapy at Huntsman when she died.Two hours of driving each way
every time she had a surgery or a long appointment was very taxing on her. We
did have lovely family to stay with but sometimes, I did stay at a motel. (I
flew in every week from out of state, no immediate family in SLC any more).
Sometimes, you're just so tired and don't want to bother anyone. You're so right. Families and patients need a place to stay so they don't
have to pay for transportation, lodging, and food. It's expensive to eat out
all the time.Bless you, bless you for building Hope Lodge in Salt
Lake. You will help so many!!
@ Band of Sisters and Solandi:I'm saddened that you two are so sadly
misled.BRAVO to the ACS and the LDS Church for coming together to
bring a tiny bit of light and hope to a sometimes very bleak, very real,
forecast. Cancer is bad enough without extra negativity! Wouldn't it be awesome if we could all work toward a goal for good, instead of
criticizing each other??How much more good could be accomplished if that
negative energy was turned into serving someone less fortunate, no matter what
color or religion?
What a beautiful gift for such a wonderful cause.
The LDS Church has alwasy been very generous. What a great humantarian gift.