@ Utehaterforlife | 4:53 p.m. Sept. 12, 2011 Syracuse, UTSoccermom - You have no idea how the BCS works because your team has never
qualified. A team with a 11-1 record and, according to your partner (ESPN), has
the 98th out of 120 Division 1 teams most difficult record, once your team
starts playing the WAC part of the schedule, the BCS ranking will go down not
Uteology,I think your on to something. Perhaps the Utes could offer
BYU one scholarship plus a player to be named later in return for James Lark.
Lark could be the best QB is the state and nobody knows it. Heaps and Wynn have
been 2nd and 3rd fiddle to the Freshman QB in Logan.
Yep that's it, Chris B has predicted it. Everyone else, quit playing football
and let the Ute's take over. They are so superior there is no reason at all for
any other football team to exist in the state of utah. The superconferences have
already been determined just not announced. Yeah and elephants fly. You better
pray that Utah wins. Of course I know exactly what you are going to say
"Utah lost to an inferior team and since the game has no meaning on whether
or not we win the conference, it does not matter. We can lose at least 4 more
games and still win our division because USC can't play for the championship.
"....mark it down, he will come up with some dorky reason as to why it did
not matter. But of course, ask the team how they feel if that happens.
Unfortunately, it's hard to have any kind of a destiny with on and off Wynn.
How about if James Lark were to transfer up here?
Utehater,A one loss non-AQ team has never made it to a BCS bowl, and
it's not going to happen this year because BYU's strength of schedule is weak
(Idaho St., Idaho, New Mexico St & San Jose State etc.). Just ask sammy,
he'll confirm it, he was the expert on cupcake schedules last year.
"BYU does still have a shot at a BCS game 11-1 is still possible"You mean "possible" as in "a one-loss non-AQ has never
ever gotten a bid in the 13 year history of the BCS"? We won't even
mention that a bid to BYU comes after any bids to non-AQ schools in conferences
(i.e. Boise State).
BYU does still have a shot at a BCS game 11-1 is still possible, and BYU did
lose on saturday to Texas and BYU still received votes to be put in the top 25,
Utah had zero, and for a no game, you guys still lost.
Both the U and the Y are still looking for a quarterback and some consistent
offense. Until a good qb emerges both teams will struggle. Speaking of qb's,
I'll bet the Aggies are glad to have Riley Nelson in Provo - their freshman qb
is a gamer.
Replying to a previous, oft-overly posting poster - as a Y fan, looking at the
way both teams (U,Y) played the real Utah team right now is Utah State - they
can score above 20 pts and look what they almost did to SEC Auburn...Beating the U this Sat. is important but the cougs had better find a way to
score points or Utah State 2.0 That old '3 and out' playbook needs to be
Wardu, better hurry to the mailbox, your issue of "Today's
Troll" just came in the mail.
"Despite loss, U. still controls its destiny"Didn't we
hear the same song-and-dance last March when the Utes finished 6th in the
conference but insisted that they still "controlled their own destiny"
because they could win the conference tourney and qualify for the big dance?
I see the Utes losing at least 6 more games. That is 7 losses total. The only
bowl the u will see this year is the potato chip bowl at the new years eve
Uteology"For get Vegas, I'll bet you..$1,000 on BYU
into the Armed Forces Bowl$50 on Utah into the Rose Bowl"lol, typical Utah fan whimpiness:More confident in predicting BYU
failure than in predicting Utah success?Isn't Utah supposed to be a
lock to win the Pathetic 12 South and back into the CCG where the Utes would be
a coin-flip away from playing in the Rose Bowl?
BCS HubrisAssuming that losing to USC is meaningless.Check the standings; Utah is currently dead last in the PAC 12 South and the
Utes are far from a lock to run the table against Arizona, ASU, UCLA and
Colorado. A team that lost to every bottom tier team in the MWC during the Kyle
era isn't immune to losing to bottom tier PAC 12 teams.
Payara: It is nice being in a BCS conference. Is that you final answer for
losing to BYU?We lost to BYU? I didn't realize we've played yet this
season. And if you are referring to last year (which I don't think you are)
Utah won that.
@BlueHusky | 11:55 a.m. Sept. 12, 2011 For get Vegas, I'll bet
you..$1,000 on BYU into the Armed Forces Bowl$50 on Utah into
the Rose Bowl
I like the hubris of the armchair Utah experts on their BCS chances. 30% indeed.
A 30% probability is too high. All things being equal, you'd have 1/12 or 8.33%.
If we agree that Oregon, Stanford, and USC are superior, and lets say that
Stanford is favored and Oregon and USC can tie for 2nd, then realistically, the
rest would sort out from there. Having a conference loss already diminishes
Utah's chances significantly. I'd guess more like 1/15 or so or about 7%. While mathematically possible for Utah to achieve a BCS game, how many
of you Utah fans are marching down to Vegas to bet $1000 on Utah in the Rose
Bowl?Just what I thought. None. I'd put $50 on Utah in the Vegas
Bowl, though.As for this game, this is a game of mediocre offense
(Utah) and bad offense (BYU) vs two good defenses.Another tossup.
Utah 12 BYU 6orBYU 13 Utah 12
Oh Chrissy B, so deluded.Its funny how after a loss, with the Offense
looking just as pathetic as predicted. Somehow they are still in the running to
blow out the southern division and play in the National championship. Wow and
you Utesies talk about unicorns and rainbows and how blue the kool aid is in
Provo. Based on this article and comments on this article. theres some unicorns
and rainbows a plenty up on the hill. Stanford will win their division not
Oregon. Luck is 20 x the QB Thomas is and a 100 x the QB Wynnie is.
From some of the comments on this board, it sounds like Utah wanted to loose
this game as it really doesn't affect anything. I guess this is their mulligan.
All of the southern division was mentioned except ASU. Look out. That team is
loaded. I love the Ute's, but if you look at the talent at ASU, I think
everybody would agree that ASU is the favorite to win the south. But keep this
in mind---they have to come to "RES" to play us. Anything could
happen! GO UTE'S!!
"what if Utah lost the Pac 12 title game and ended the season 6 -
7?"In that case, Utah will sit back and collect their share of
BCS money... kinda like how BYU used to do when the money earners (Utah and TCU)
would bring home the bacon to the rest of the MWC.
From now until the 17th I will cheer for the Utes to defeat the Y. After that I
hope the Y finishes 10-2 and proves to the football world they are the best team
ever to play in the Fort Worth Helicopter Bowl. As for the future I hope we
play this "rivalry game" every third or fourth year.
@Chris B...The future of football in the state of Utah, is Utah..."thanks jd" for stating the obvious
Watching multiple games this week, I think the PAC-12 is down this year.
Arizona, Oregon State, Washington, UCLA all struggled with their out of
conference games...I was surprised by the Utah vs. USC score, until I watched
the game, and saw USC controlled the game completely....I think all those close
wins Utah use to win in the MWC, will not happen in the PAC-12.It
will be interesting to see what happens when Texas A&M leaves the Big
12....Utah will welcome Texas and Oklahoma!!!!
0% chance(like always) byu plays in BCS game30% chance Utah plays in Rose
BowlThe future of football in the state of Utah, is Utah.
@payara Aren't you a little early to assume a win against Utah seems like the Y
has some issues of their own to address before this game. It should
be a good game. Both teams can make a good case for a win. Thats why we play the
game and it's called a rivaly, I can't wait to see who makes the best
adjustments/improvements to get the win. Good luck to both teams.
It is nice being in a BCS conference. Is that you final answer for losing to
USC is very average and so is Utah. The secondary gave it up all day. Barkley
would roll out and wait for his receivers to make their first cut and then it
was like shooting ducks on a pond. Utah is way to green and inexperienced to do
much this year. Wynn should be playing for a Junior College somewhere. I still
think 6-6 and if we are lucky 7-5
Mr. James presents a pretty cynical view of college football. By his
definition, if you do not participate in a BCS bowl game or win a conference
championship, then you have not won anything. By that standard, there are
probably 200+ college football teams who might as well pack it up and go home
right now. Such a standard discounts rivalry games, teams such as USU striving
to just become bowl eligible, the efforts of individual athletes to enjoy the
game and become better at playing it, etc... I fear that his attitude, which is
probably just a poor jab at his rivals, represents much of what is poor in
college athletics today. There is little of striving to become better than
one's self or to simply enjoy a game. Rather, we are so set on crowning a
champion that even a team like the our undefeated Utes of a few years ago feel
like their season was unsuccessful as the number one spot eluded them despite a
terrific season. When an individual's or team's success is limited to lifting
the ultimate trophy, it seems to me that something has gone astray.
What I meant to say on my 11:30 post, is what if Utah lost the Pac 12 title game
and ended the season 6 - 7?
Chris B: Aren't you a little early with that type of prediction? There are
still a lot of games left to play. Let me give you a thought: What happens if
Utah wins their division, but then loses to the other division leader, and ends
the season with a record of 5-7? No Rose Bowl, no bowl at all! That would be
an interesting scenario, but something to think about.
We are clearly one of the top two teams in the division with USC the other. Not
playing Stanford or Oregon means we will play Oregon for a trip to the rose
bowl. Its good to be in a bcs conference and to have earned our way in with bcs
That's the great part about being in a BCS conference. Whereas before we had to
be undefeated to have any shot at a BCS bowl, now, all we have to do is just win
our conference. Given that USC has a post-season ban, our shot at that is just
as good as it was before last night. That's not to say that it's going to happen
this year, but, I love the fact that we still have a shot!To BYU, my
condolences. Your hopes of winning anything ended last night with a single loss.
There's no more conference championship to shoot for, and, you are now out of
the running for a BCS bowl. Hopefully things will pick up for you during this
and next year, but, that's reality at this point. Independence is a tough and
interesting. gotta love the "no-game" effect that is somehow being
thrust upon us despite the loss to USC. so was this a real Pac-12 game or not?
Utes lose but somehow it doesn't affect their future? interesting. i guess that
is the prize of getting into the Pac-12.
I had this game down as a loss right from the start, but I think the team was
competitive and proved they belong in this conference. Bring on the
Cougars!!I'm really lookin forward to the game this Saturday.