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Published: Saturday, Sept. 10 2011 2:29 p.m. MDT

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sharrona
layton, UT

Andermart, The scriptures are instructively clear. Jesus is the Only Begotten Son of God. True,
The pale of Christianity believes the birth of Jesus was a unique miracle by the *Holy Spirit. This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about, His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit. (Mt 1:18 NIV).

* Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit is the same Greek word(pneuma). God is Spirit (John 4:24) and He is Holy, There is no contradiction in saying that Jesus was begotten by the Holy Spirit and also the Son of God.

Brigham Young, Jesus was not begotten by the Holy Ghost(JoD v. 1 p.51) ) Mormons believe God is a man ,but not Christians.

Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.(Mt 16:17)

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.(John 1:1)and the Word became flesh(John 1:14) God becomes man Not man become God.

morpunkt
Glendora, CA

@BostonTerry
Well-stated.

Bill in Nebraska
Maryville, MO

KJK: Then I suggest you go back and study your scriptures because this did not infringe on any rights. You are misguided and misrepresenting the Church. It is clear that as long as your pointy of view is seen you are clearly wrong on this.

The Family, A Proclamation to the World is the teaching tool at the present time for all things pertaining to Same-Sex marriage. If you don't agree talk to your Stake President, Bishop and others. You will find they agree WITH me long before they will agree with you.

shamrock
Salt Lake City, UT

From all I've heard about Jesus, He would think all this theological quibbling was ridiculous and mean-spirited. He seemed much more concerned with "Love thy neighbor" than with parsing scripture.

Andermart
Pullman, WA

Sharrona
Are we even speaking the same language? It seems that you are saying that in your theology, Jesus was the son of the Holy Ghost. Mormons, on the other hand, know Him as the Son of God. So is this about symantics?

Main Street Plaza
Salt Lake City, UT

Please explain the reticence to name the author of the Religion Dispatches piece that is mentioned in this article.

A voice of Reason
Salt Lake City, UT

Curtis Hight and Andermart, you've both posted some amazingly clear, direct, not rude, and logically accurate comments on here.

Thanks!

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Concerning those who would only fight us, claiming they are Christian and we are not...

No good fruit can possibly come from saying "No sir, you indeed believe this- contrary to what you claim to believe"

No good fruit can possibly come from criticizing others on grounds that are not agreed upon. The strawman fallacy is when someone argues against a weaker argument than actually presented. If Mormon's say "We believe that Jesus Christ is our redeemer, the Son of God, etc" then no good fruit can come from arguing on grounds that we 'don't believe such things'. If we are claiming that we do, then the only good fruit, productive dialogue, or even peaceful and righteous debate can come from a discussion that continues with such a premise. Trying to argue against someone's beliefs based on claims that they do not agree with not only is basing your arguments on a strawman fallacy.

Such dialogue breeds contention, which is not of God. Peaceful discussion requires seeking agreement, not a fight. Such agreement is truly Christian and biblical doctrine.

Bro.D
Cornelius, Oregon

davedave wrote:
"Hence hypothetically speaking two gay men or women could legally get married never having sex before are they still considered in good standing with the church?"

The answer to that is no if they are having sex which breaks the law of chastity because the church does not recognise the marriage of two people of the same sex regardless if the state they are living in does.

davedave also wrote:
The church may have to rethink how it states its stance on gays in the church.

The Lord does not have to rethink His stance on anything....His stance is law...not just for the church but for the whole world.

sharrona
layton, UT

A Voce of reason, Such dialogue breeds contention, . Peaceful discussion requires seeking agreement, not a fight. Such agreement is truly Christian and biblical doctrine.

ye should earnestly CONTEND for the faith which was once delivered unto the[Christians] saints.(Jude 3)

Kirk R Graves
West Jordan, UT

numerous commentors on this article have made the point that the LDS Church should not have gotten involved in Prop 8 because their involvement infringed on the rights of others. The assert that the Church took a moral stance when they shouldn't have. What these individuals have not taken into account is the long term legal impact that same sex marriage will (not might) have on freedom of religion. The Harvard Law Review has an excellent article about this issue. The Church has every right to defend not only it, but it's members freedom of religion. If you want more, you will ahve to look it up yourselves, (I can't post the link). Search for "or Poorer" on the Harvard law review website to get a taste of the legal side of this issue.

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