TrueBlueNever mentioned BYU anywhere in my comment. I was referring
to this D-News article.
@Band of SistersGreat comment. It's sad, but very true.
Why does byu constantly want to recieve a pat on the back? They crave attention
and if they don't get it they have d-news writers come up with silly stories of
The media thrives on the negative. Just watch and listen to the evening news. I
haven't watched it for years for that reason alone.I agree with the
comment that the less said about this whole thing the better for Brandon. I'm
sure he hated all the national attention. He had great support from coaches,
players, and fans who embraced him and loved him unconditionally. For that and
other things involved in this process, he is back to BYU when he could have gone
anywhere else in the country to go to college and play basketball.Most BYU trolls (who boldly hate the Y) have no concept of what it is about
BYU that makes it such a great environment in which to get an education. Never
Utah_CatholicismYou should be posting on the SL Trib blog. BYU never said a word about why Brandon was suspended. It was the SL Trib that
dug up the "dirt", through other sources, about Brandon's personal
life, and reported it to the rest of the world.
If I was Brandon Davies, I would not want my personal life to be discussed in
the news media. Maybe the D-News should leave this behind. You've already
embarrassed him enough as it is.
It's great that Brandon has been reinstated but do we have to rehash the whole
thing all over again? It would be an even bigger story if BYU did not reinstate
This is a story about media and perceptions.For most people, the
perception they will have will be of a university that expelled a student who
was a top athlete. There will be little else because most people do not process
much beyond the headlines.The compelling part of the story, however,
is about how a person made a mistake (violation of the BYU Honor Code), came
forward and reported his error, and then went through a process of personal
redemption. Headlines usually don't work on these weightier matters, but it is
the core stuff of the lives we all lead.It is a relevant article
because it reminds us to stop, think through and appropriately process the
information that comes to us from others (including the media). Gossip, inuendo,
heresay, etc. are the substance of things that cause us to view others in ways
that are hurtful to them and to us.For me, this is a wonderful story
about a young man who is trying to make it right in his life. We would do well
to emulate his example.
Two words:FOOTBALL SEASON.
RivertonCougYou sound more like a BYU hater, with your "1,200
seat" hyperbole, than a BYU fan, and your assumption that Davies will be
the best player on the team shows that you really don't know much about this
year's team.As shown in the articles published by ESPNSports IllustratedSporting NewsCBS SportsUSA
TodayYahoothe media is still interested, but there's not much
more to add to the story until basketball season starts.The author
of this article is way off base with her baseless conclusion that because the
hype surrounding Brandon's return doesn't match the media storm created by his
departure just before March Madness that the media is no longer interested in
What are you expecting, the top story on sportscenter?There is a
sport called football and it rules everything. BYU basketball is in the WCC
because the school put football as #1 priority, as they should.Football is back, and people want to watch, hear, and breathe football. If
BYU wanted lots of media attention on this, they should have waited until
February to reinstate Davies.Did I mention it is football season?
It really doesn't need to be a story. At the time he was dismissed he said he
would return. Also it isn't not basketball season; nor is BYU about to go into
March Madness. Football is the story now. It's no big deal so don't make a big
deal about it.
I am surprised that there is any question as to why the media is not covering
the return. The Cougars were a highly ranked team with the most popular player
in the nation. They were legitimately considered a final four team and that
would have been a first for BYU. All of that ended when Davies was
suspended. And as proved to be the case, he was a key piece.Now BYU
has no more Jimmer, they are playing in a league with 1200 seat stadiums and
Davies, previously the third best player on the team, will now be the best. The
media isn't interested.
carpediem | 10:47 p.m. Sept. 9, 2011 Holladay, UTFrankly I think BYU
should have never said what the infringement was. By saying it was an
"honor code violation" it allows people to speculate on something that
isn't anyones business.---------------You can't suspend
someone in the middle of a semester for "academic performance," since
grades haven't been given out.BYU didn't make a media event out of
it, the media did. I don't think they even "announced" it, and Davies
Kinda strange, since a simple Google Search for 'Brandon Davies reinstated'
brings up articles from:ESPNSports IllustratedSporting
NewsCBS SportsUSA TodayYahooPlus all of the local
newspapers covered it (Deseret News, Trib, Standard Examiner, etc.) and several
of the Mountain West Conference cities picked it up as well. Seems the author
didn't do her homework.
"Normal things" Chris B?The "normal things"
that, depending on the study cited, result in between 1/6 and 1/4th of the U.S.
population between 14-49 having genital herpes? (Percentages are higher for
women than for men.)I like the BYU norm, where married couples who
are each other's first partner have zero change at getting genital herpes.50% of "Normally" active adults get HPV, which causes genital
warts and cervical cancer. I like the BYU norm, where a woman who is
part of a married couple who are each other's first partner have zero change at
getting HPV.3/10 teen girls get pregnant. 1/10th of all births are
to teen girls. Yes, some of those are young women who got married, but the
majority are doing "normal things" outside marriage.So,
tout the party life as "normal" if you wish, but I prefer a
relationship where love, commitment, fidelity, etc, are the "norm" not
treating the other person as a more fun, fleshier version of a blowup doll.BYU advocates fidelity, which produces healthier, happier families, and
as a side benefit, doesn't inflict disease and rampant medical costs on society.
Brandon's story is great and will always be remembered by everyone round these
parts, but lets not forget, it's football season, nough said.
MiP, I agree. I saw it on many different places. It was a main headline on
Yahoo and ESPN the same day. The thing is the media hashed and rehashed this at
the time it happened. They analyzed it to death. Now that he's back, what else
is there to talk about? I can almost guarantee that the first game BYU plays
will have a headline like this: "Davies returns after suspension in BYU's
first game." All the media will bring it back. Just wait Ms. writer,
you'll get your wish in a few months.
The sad truth is that sin sells and repentance doesn't. Have a great season
Brandon. You've earned this second chance. Now use it wisely.
This is one reason I don't read more than the sports sections in the paper. I
know that media feel and find that drama sells and people would get more from
watching people fall from grace in front of the media than watching their rise
to the top. Brandon Davies took a huge public fall and BYU took him their
publicly. I heard that Brandon Davies transgression were known by sone in the
BYU community for quite some time- so why throw him under the bus just before
March Madness???? Dunno. I know that I would personally watch and read the
news more if it contained more positive stories. Forget that audience that
thrives on smut, and the negativity of the world- don't close you eyes to truth
that needs to be broadcasted- but in Brandon Davies case- build him up publicly-
he needs your support. Brandon would like nothing more than to have something
nice said about him.
The attitude of this article is something that should bother the newspaper and
readers. It seems to reflect a martyrdom sort of approach. Davies
reinstatement was covered b y the media. I first heard about it in the national
media, not from BYU directly or this newspaper. What else do you want? Why
should there be any more said about it that that, particularly as he was not a
star at the level of Jimmer? I think you should look at the Utah LDS culture
which has not lost its persecution complex from the 19th Century, and not point
fingers at the national media because they did not elevate it to the front page.
The lack of comments on this story would lead one to believe that the public
doesn't care much either.
Frankly I think BYU should have never said what the infringement was. By saying
it was an "honor code violation" it allows people to speculate on
something that isn't anyones business. The media also made a bigger story out
of it then it needed to be. I mean even Tim Tebow gave his two cents about it.
Chris B, let's talk normal:Depending on the study cited, between 1/6
and 1/4th of the population between 14-49 have genital herpes? Guess how they
get it? Doing what you think is "normal" -- by having sex with partner
who was previously sexually active. Guess what percentage of
married couples, neither of whom had sex before marriage has genital herpes?
ZERO.50% of sexually active adults get HPV, which causes genital
warts and cervical cancer. Guess what percentage of married couples,
neither of whom had sex before marriage has HPV? ZERO.3/10 teen
girls get pregnant. 1/10th of all births are to teen girls. So, tout
the party life as "normal" if you wish, but the "norm" I
prefer is the BYU norm, where sex is about love, commitment, fidelity, etc, not
treating the other person as a more fun, fleshier version of a blowup doll.Jesus Christ and BYU advocate fidelity, which produces healthier,
happier families, and as a side benefit, doesn't inflict disease and rampant
medical costs on society.
KamUte...sorry your application was turned down. Don't be bitter.
So exactly what is the quota on Brandon Davies stories that need to be published
for the media to not look bad in this author's eyes? It was on ESPN's website,
CNNSI's website and plentiful at the Desert News. It's done. Big deal. At some
point she just needs to get over it.
The "lack of stories" means that this is football season and not
basketball season, which is when Davies was initially suspended. Certainly, the
action of BYU will gather national attention once the basketball season begins.
With the numerous NCAA investigations of football programs out of control, seems
like the national interest is elsewhere ... for a season!!
Why do DN writers all seem heck-bent on trying to stir up controversy where
there is none? Sarah, have you been taking pages from DeGroote's book?
Thanks Sarah. Surely there is something else to report on like beer being
purchased at the campus 7-11 in Provo.
It was covered. It has a byline on ESPN well outside of the basketball season.
That's actually pretty big.
Thanks Chris B for another daily dose of judgement and lunacy. Got anymore
predictions for us? Your comments make me think of the old Bosom Buddies theme
song: "I don't care what you say anymore this is my life. Go ahead with
your own life leave me alone."
Don't worry, the media will pick it up when the season is in full tilt and BYU
once again gains some attention.All of the details will again become
@ Chris B"The only question is why did he get kicked off in the
first place? He's a normal guy doing normal things."So does
this mean that you have broken a sacred promise and felt so bad about, that you
have approached some people that you knew would bring heartache and pain to and
confess your wrong doing? That is, if you considered yourself a
"normal" guy?Somehow, we all just can't see that
happening.What some people see as "normal" really amazes
IMO, the ADD media are only a reflection of our ADD society.Next
I was surprised to see it as news on the bottom ticker on ESPN the day it was
announced he was reinstated. To me that was more attention given than I would
have expected.I say this because Davies was reinstated IN AUGUST! If it
was announced in early March it would have had the same attention given as last
year when he was suspended.
The terms of Brandon's suspension were that he would be suspended for the rest
of the year. It has always been understood that he would be able to be back this
year. There isn't really a whole lot to report at the moment per se. I suspect
as the season unfolds, and if Brandon can continue his success we will see more
stories about it.
The Media bases their business on negative articles. For Brandon it is probably
a relief not to be the focal point. Glad to have him back and kudos to him for
showing his quality character.
The only question is why did he get kicked off in the first place? He's a
normal guy doing normal things. Only byu makes normal things
abnormal and punishable by the most severe consequences possible. Death by
guilt is how they live.
The national media is Democrat, leftist, anti-familly, anti-religion and very
pro toward the whole socialist agenda. Positive news will generally be
ignored. News that does not fit with the Obama agenda will be ignored. They
won't mention union take over of a business in Washington state where they held
6 guards hostage, they won't mention any positive news about American values,
they won't mention the Obamista's involment of selling guns to Mexican drug
gangs, etc. They try to manage the news very carefully to hide things from
the people and to make stories where there are none. It is great that Brandon
is back, but that is good news and shows the compassion in the honor code. It
is not going to be mentioned.
Davies reinstatement reinforces at least a portion of what is good about BYU,
religion, and the LDS church. Those entities have morals they stick to and it
offends some people. Davies suspention allowed many to throw mud, his
reinstatement doesn't give the same opportunity. I don't know Davies personally
but this situation has shown a lot about his integrity, backbone, and
upbringing. You can find those same qualities elsewhere, you can definitley
find them at BYU.
If you're concerned that the media didn't follow up on the Brandon Davies story,
then perhaps the whole thing was just a stunt to get BYU some good PR. Credit
the media for seeing through that.
The media are like magpies and crows, squawking and diving after anything
shiney and attention grabbing. Getting kicked off a potentially championship
team was super-shiney and attention grabbing. Being reinstated means very little
to anyone except Davies, BYU and their local fans. The media are off doing what
they do best...looking for the sensational.
It's true, the media doesn't have the same zeal for follow-up stories, but I
think the biggest reason for the perceived lack of interest is the timing.
Football season just started and very few people are paying any attention to
basketball. When the college basketball season starts and Brandon starts playing
again, you'll see alot more interest in the media about Brandon's return.The vast majority of commentary on BYU's handling of Brandon's
suspension has been positive; even though some disagreed with BYU's policies,
most media and fans admired BYU's willingness to stick to it's principles,
especially in the face of all of the scandals in other programs we've seen
across the country.
Really... BYU was a Top-20 team with a marque player (Jimmer) in the stretch run
of the season. A key player was suspended, for something that is not against the
rules at 99% of US Universities. Of course that was News.Does anyone
really think that when that player is reinstated before classes start the next
fall (and let's face it we all new he would be) that deserves equal time? Really? The premises of this column makes no sense.
Uh, earth to media, that boat sailed decades ago. There's no "leads
to" or "perception" about it anymore.
Yes, most of the media has not covered the reinstatement because they thought
the suspension was ridiculous the first time around and that the Honor Code
office did not come looking very good (many BYU fans and church members agree
with the sentiment about the Honor Code office while they supported the
Are you kidding me?I can answer the title of the article in 2
seconds.Brandon Davies return and lack of stories says absolutely nothing
about the media!If he was reinstated right at the beginning of the NCAA
Tourney to a top 10 team in the country which also has the most popular player
on its roster...well then it would have had just as much or MORE attention.So silly to make it into anything else.
I fully expected Davies to return. If the news media also expected Davies
return then they may not consider it to be news.If I were in
Brandon's shoes I would not want any publicity on this. Nevertheless, there
will be plenty of publicity when basketball season starts and Brandon plays. It
will be mentioned on every TV broadcast. The better Brandon plays the more it
will be mentioned and the story will last through the entire basketball season.