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Published: Wednesday, Sept. 7 2011 3:22 p.m. MDT

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scenic view
Baltimore, MD

It's BYU/Oklahoma or bust for the Big 12

Texas A&M's move to the SEC ultimately would happen if Oklahoma stays put in the Big 12, but until that occurs eight of the remaining nine Big 12 schools will not waive their right to pursue litigation against the SEC and A&M, a source with knowledge of the situation told ESPN.

If Oklahoma commits to the Big 12 and Texas A&M leaves for the SEC, the Big 12 is going to pursue BYU as a 10th member, according to the source. The source said there was strong interest from the Cougars prior to last week's comments from Oklahoma president David Boren that the Sooners were exploring their options. BYU, formerly of the Mountain West, is an independent in football and its other remaining sports compete in the West Coast Conference.

TheSportsAuthority
Arlington, VA

The ball appears to be in Oklahoma's court to save college football from total mayhem.

JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt
Beverly Hills, CA

Ou will stay, the big 12 will bring on more Texas teams, byu will not be saving any conference. You all underestimate the power of Texas politicians getting their fingers in this.

RedUte
MAPLE VALLEY, WA

One thing is clear, BYU is not going to be the savior of the Big 12. If the Big 12 does stay together it won't be including BYU. In order to keep Texas and Oklahoma in the Big 12, you're going to need a much bigger fish than BYU to join the conference. If not, Oklahoma will go to the PAC 12 and Texas will go independent.

Moderate
Salt Lake City, UT

BYU "fared well" by knocking out OU's quarterback, sending the team to a 7-5 record (it's worst under Bob Stoops).
Everyone notes that the Texas game is winnable because Texas looks to be down again this year.

Has BYU proven it can play in the Big 12? Scheduling OU and Texas on down years is lucky. You don't get lucky in conference play. If OU is down, Texas is up, or Mizzou is up, or OK State is up... BYU wouldn't dominate that league, by any means. Why give up independence and a contract with ESPN to finish 4th or 5th each year?

Osgrath
Provo, UT

A lot of rock-sure opinions here - based on insider information, I suppose. The thing is, those who predict the demise of BYU football as we know it don't seem to recognize that BYU is exactly where they planned to be a year ago - football independent and otherwise with the WCC. If the Big-12 implodes, nothing changes. If the Big-12 invites BYU, then the Y will have to decide what to do, but they have choices. Or the Big-12 stays intact and no invite comes, and the Cougars stand pat with independence and the WCC, which was Plan A all along.

Any thing else is unlikely speculation, but in no way do things get worse for the Cougars if things on their current course.

For those who choose to see this as a horrible situation, I say - enjoy your smug condescension. True fans want to see their team play and play well. That part doesn't change under any of three scenarios.

Bo Diddley Tech
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

BYU will always be a decent football team and will fare well, just not the caliber of the Utes or most typical BCS teams. Yes, BYU did win an NC, can't take that away at all. However, the BCS bustin Utes beating Alabama had much more credibility and was more impressive, which lead to a BCS conference invite and will lead them into additional national prominence while BYU struggles with UT this week and Utes beat USC!!

CaliforniaCougar
Lake Elsinore, CA

Stay independent!! The Big 12 is the Titanic. Wait for the next boat.

Better yet, let Oklahoma and Oklahoma State go to the Big 12 and let Texas go independent, so they can keep their network. From there, convince Air Force to go independent to join Army and Navy. If this happened, the six independent schools could play each other in October and November. Now that would be awesome.

Riddles in the Dark
Olympus Cove, Utah

Despite the baseless whiney opinions of the jealous naysayers on the hill, if Oklahoma and Texas commit to staying in the Big 12, the conference will survive, Texas A&M will leave for the SEC, and BYU will replace the Aggies in the Big 12.

Rational
Salt Lake City, UT

Bo Diddley Tech | 10:47 p.m. Sept. 7, 2011
SALT LAKE CITY, UT
BYU will always be a decent football team and will fare well, just not the caliber of the Utes or most typical BCS teams. Yes, BYU did win an NC, can't take that away at all. However, the BCS bustin Utes beating Alabama had much more credibility and was more impressive, which lead to a BCS conference invite

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Bo, the Utes (and I'm happy for them) got lucky when Texas, and OK turned down the Pac last year, otherwise the Pac would've been 16 with TX, OK, OSU, Tx Tech, Tx A&M and CO and the Utes would still be in the MWC. The BCS wins had very little to do with the invite, otherwise CO wouldn't have been invited. They haven't been all that lately, though they have been historically. It is all about the TV sets, not the teams.

Rational
Salt Lake City, UT

the thing about BYU in the Big 12 is I doubt schools will fear BYU recruiting in their backyard as much. The LDS population isn't as great as in Big 12 states as it is in California, so they'll think it less likely to lose a recruit to BYU than they would to USC or Florida.

U 90
Corona, CA

Rational,

Neither A&M or Colorado would go with Texas to any conference. The whole point of them leaving the Big 12 was to get away from Texas. That kind of blows up your theory of Utah lucking in to the PAC.

DC
Alexandria, VA

Oh good - so THIS is the game that BYU has to win to prove to the Big 12 that they belong. Glad to know that. So the win against #3 OU wasn't enough.
From what I read, if BYU does get in to the Big 12, do what you can to get out of the game against Iowa State.

Esquire
Springville, UT

Conference talk aside, BYU had better play better this week than they did last week or else it could be a long day.

Floyd Johnson
Broken Arrow, OK

It was unfortunate that hit ended Bradford's season. OU was on track to have a very good '09, losing Bradford cost them the year. Always want to see athletes play hard and hit hard, never want to see a player hurt.

fan32
St. George, Utah

Remember, as the tribune said it best, there are 64000 reasons to join the big12 if invited. If Oklahoma and Texas commit to stay on paper, BYU would be crazy not to go. Tom Holmoe still has to schedule 2 for 1 with Texas , ND and other big schools. With the exception of 2013, the home schedule is still bad. Give the home fans somebody to get excited about or Holmoe will start seeing LES becoming less and less full. The loyal home fans will only put up with so much before they quit paying the ticket prices. The home basketball schedule is pathetic.

Razzle2
Bluffdale, UT

Texas is not going independent without a BCS deal like Notre Dame. Likewise, Notre Dame is not joining a conference since they have an exclusive BCS deal already.
The Big 12 is not going away as long as it has Texas and they will not lose their BCS AQ status.
The BYU/OU game and this week's UT game are perfect timing for a Big 12 invite. Other schools may depart away from Texas but the Y should take the invite. It's like karma.

manaen
Buena Park, CA

"although Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri and Iowa State is doing everything it can to prevent Texas A&M from leaving"

The rest of the country is saying that Texas A&M *has left* the Big12.

I went to public schools, but know enough to write that "...Baylor [...] and Iowa State ARE doing...".

Striker
Omaha, NE

Honestly, I'd love to see Texas join BYU in the independent world. Two great programs with their own TV network. They would be setting a high bar for many programs. I've already heard many schools say they are jealous we both have our own network. Just get ND lined up with their own and the independent world will be looking great!

Living in Big XII country, everyone is so sick of Texas dictating everything, which was a major reason for Nebraska leaving. The conference will continue talks of leaving until the evil grasp of Texas is gone.

Ufan
Salt Lake City, UT

Some Utah fans need to back off on the Utah BCS calibre hype. Utah had the good fortune of having a couple of great seasons and the Big 12 south deciding not to join the PAC 16 just before the latest conference reshuffling dance, otherwise the Utes would be in an even worse position than the Cougars, stuck in the MWC with nowhere to go.

BYU has proven that they're an elite football program and deserve to be included in whatever upper-echelon incarnation of major college football that emerges.

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