Published: Tuesday, Sept. 6 2011 12:00 a.m. MDT
Agreed!Why is it, the very people saying they are FOR the
Constitution -- are indeed the very one trampling all over it?
I always love letters like this that seem to deliver such sage advice at first
glance, but with a moment's reflection, then the reader realizes that the writer
presented us with a pablum that is devoid of specificity and in reality says
nothing of substance.I am sure those of the Tea Party will interpret
this to mean that we should do what the Founding Father's wanted, but in a
complex, industrialized, digitized world that they would fail to understand,
what does that mean? Men with an 18th century understanding of
science, government and political economy are ill-equiped educationally and
experientially to lead us now, no matter how much foresight they may have
displayed in creating this remarkable experiment we call America.
"evil hidden forces" in WashingtonThere are no evil hidden
forces. They are clearly out in the open. And we have learned to accept
them.The evil force is money. Our congress is bought and paid for
by those with the money. Corporations and unions have paid for laws that will
benefit them.Until you take the money out of the law making process,
only those with Money will benefit.
And just what should they cut? FEMA? Social Security? Medicare? The Centers
for Disease Control? Highways? Defense? There's a tiny group of
Americans who have nearly half of all the money in the whole country. Some of
them are making ten to a hundred times the salaries they were making forty years
ago. And they've twisted the system so that they pay less in taxes than they
ever did less, even, than the poor do. Why does no one, including
the Deseret News, have the courage to say we should tax them?
Interesting that the letter espouses both amending the Constitution and then
abhors the possibility of a Constitutional convention to consider broader
changes. There has been a national debt every year of our existence. Why an
amendment now? We need a Congress that does it job to control spending and set
a tax rate that pays for services we demand.
LDSLiberal: Both parties trample the Constitution, mostly by ignoring it.
IMHO, the liberals do it best in their Robin Hood approach.JustGordon:
True principles, ie, not spending more than you have, know no time limits. It
is up to us to apply those principles along with the understanding we've
developed over the past 221 years.JoeBlow: Bingo!
RE: JoeBlowYou say "there are no evil hidden forces". Then two
sentences later you declare the evil force is money. Looks like both sides of
your mouth are working quite well this morning. One thing you have right, the
pursuit of money is killing our nation, from the bottom where mothers leave
their children to work, all the way to the top where almost all congressional
decisions are based on money.
Is the constitution hanging by a thread yet?
If congress, as the letter suggested, would pass budgets only allowing us to
spend what we took in, the dems would increase their ever-present demagogueing
about how the repubs were trying to wreck the economy and throw granny over the
cliff.Since they are devoid of ideas that actually work, their only
hope of holding onto power is to falsely demagogue against anyone or anything
that opposes them.
opinionated.I said there are no evil HIDDEN forces. A point I
clearly made.May want to seek to understand before commenting.
Maybe we should try repealing the 17th before we add a BBA. Get back to the
basics and it may fix itself.
JustGordon... If our Founding Fathers had such an inability to understand our
"complex, industrialized, digitized world", then how on earth, did
George Washington warn us against political party spirit, excess debt,
sectionalism, and permanent foreign alliances? It sounds to me like we should
have taken their advice rather then dismiss them, like you seem so willing to
T-Jeff, I hope you are speaking of imposing term limits in the Senate and
Congress when you say repeal the 17th amendment (which doesn't speak to members
of Congress). To simply repeal the whole thing could create far more problems
than it would solve. Before it was ratified state legilatures would frequently,
if not usually appoint or elect the state's senators. The 17th amendment is the
result of significant fraud that frequently occured under that model. Fraud and
bribery were common; the interests of the people were often not considered at
all. You remember Illinois' governor Rod Blagojevich, I hope. There is enough
fraud in Washington today without reopening that avenue.
I don't know how many times I need to say this, but federal spending amounts to
nearly 25 percent of GDP. Republicans seem to believe that all this government
spending happens in a vacuum. But like it or not, those government expenditures
(directly or indirectly) support millions of jobs and a multitude of businesses.
If we simply slash away, guess what? We will send the economy into a death
spiral. Unfortunately, we have financed this economic support with debt instead
of taxes. This started about 30 years ago with Reagan's tax cuts.The
only way out of this mess is a balanced approach. Yes, we need to reduce our
debt. But we can't just pull $1 trillion out of the economy in one fatal fit of
knee-jerk conservatism. We need to raise taxes substantially and cut
expenditures judiciously. Everything proposed so far by the misnamed Tea Party
would be disastrous.
If John McCain were in the White House right now, this "editorial"
would have never been written.
T-Jeff | 8:33 a.m. Sept. 6, 2011 Uinta Basin, Utah Maybe we should
try repealing the 17th before we add a BBA. Get back to the basics and it may
fix itself. ================= Thanks for proving my
earlier point.Why do Tea Partiers who "SAY" they are
Defending the Constitution -- turn an about face, and become the very 1st guys
in line shouting Changing it?[i.e., Repealing of the 14th, 16th, and
17th Ammendments - and adding their OWN -- like Balanced Budgets, and Definition
of Marriages, ect.?]This is Why the Constitution will hang by a
thread.Some people don't Believe in it.So - when they disagree with
it, they are out constantly trying to change it to suit they own agendas -
rather than just learning to live within it.As a Miltary Veteran, I
swore the oath to Defend the Constitution to my dying breath.Follow
it, and Leave it ALONE!
While sounding good in theory, a balanced budget would be a disaster to the
economy. It wouldn't work in today's world.
With three hundred million people, why can't we find honest and patriotic
@T-JeffI really don't see how the direct election of senators is the
cause of America's problems.The founding fathers initially had them
indirectly elected becaues they didn't trust the population would be intelligent
enough to understand the issues to elect the right people. With the flow of
information we have through Internet, TV and radio, that no longer applies.If the problem is you think the people have made bad decisions by
electing people with a D after their name, wouldn't the old Book of Mormon
principle apply of we picked our leaders, so it's our own fault?Would you really trust the Utah Legislature with their track record of trying
to hide things (GRAMA law earlier this year, Utahns for Ethical Government) to
pick our senators? I would much rather have my voice directly heard
and reap the consequences of that.
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