I think Utah has some major problems a QB. Jordan Wynn will not last the year,
not because of injury, but because he just isn't that good. Utah should have
killed this Montana State team. Utah was pitched a lob ball and they didn't hit
it out of the park.
Whew! BYU wins and Utah wins, but Utah State with a loss looks to be the best
team in the state. Congratualtions to the Aggies in a hard fought game. For
the independent Cougars it is one game in the win column. Hopefully they will
improve for next weeks game with Texas. I was having trouble enjoying this game
until the clock was at :00. Maybe when I watch the replay tonight on BYU-TV I
will enjoy it more knowing we won. Where can I see the Ute replay?I
did love the defense and especially the play of the front seven. They had the
Ole Miss offense stalled all night long. They also hit extremely hard. Teams
will be tip-toeing into those holes fearing for their lives.BYU
1-0Utah 1-0USU 0-1Best Start Week 1 --- USU!
After the first week action of the 3 Utah college teams, I conclude:1)
Good team will find a way to win, e.g. BYU.2) Bad team will find a way to
lose, e.g. USU.3) Worst team will find a high school team to play, e.g.
Montana state was thinking, "holy cow, wish we would have played BYU so we
could get the win."
@pebblesYour angst ridden and whiney posts are just about over the
edge. Relax. You have never once posted a single thing in any thread that wasn't
a whining complaint about BYU fans and how you feel they have 'wronged' you. Listen, it goes both ways. utah "fans" are all over the BYU
articles all of the time doing exactly the same things. Either ignore it or else
have some fun with it because with each successive whiney post you are the one
that sounds like the immature 5 year old you want to tag on BYU fans only. Im
frankly embarrassed for you.
Utes, it's your O-line. Things are going to be rough unless they step up. QB
won't have time and new backs won't have the holes. USC will make O-line
problems worse.Good luck. I hope things are better for one reason: I
want to see Norm Chow do well.
The wife of a University of Utah football player Ron Tongaonevai was killed in a
three-car collision late Thursday (after the game).My deepest
condolences to Tongaonevai and the families.
The idea people are floating that Utah purposefully held back to
"hide" something from USC is ridiculous. Chow isn't reinventing his
offense with Utah, he was hired to do what he does and bring his offensive
scheme to Utah.
Dear Scott182: Didn't you catch on to the fact that Otis Spurlock is a troll
that is just trying to make BYU fans look bad? You have to be a little more
scott182 | 4:38 p.m. Sept. 2, 2011 Salt Lake City, UT Well BYU
it's your turn to win one. Go UTES! ===Sure,
what is Montana State doing this weekend?
Wow, was preschool cancelled today and that is why all the sorry for an excuse
of Y fans are out in force. For a 7-6 team that got blown out by Utah State you
guys sure talk tough which makes me laugh as there is nothing to back it up.
Also, being on here shows that you have nothing better to do than obsess about
Utah which is very little brother like of you. You Y fans on here, by your
words, prove to me that you are one of the most insecure fan bases out there. I
know it hurts that Utah left you in mid majors but my gosh, grow up as I swear
most of you are more immature than my five year old.
@ Otis SpurlockAre you serious!!!This is why people hate BYU
fans, cocky for no reason and no class at all.How did your foolish
quest in 08 work out??? I don't hate BYU, I think they are a tough
team, but the fans are so high and mighty about everything it makes me sick.
Well BYU it's your turn to win one. Go UTES!
After we slaughter Mississippi and Texas, Utah....you're next.
Wynnie With the Do for Heisman....
For those of you who are wondering if Utah was "cloaking", or hiding
what they do, think if that is really what they did?Do you
understand that Norm Chow comes from the PAC X and what he does will surpise the
very few?Did Blechen purposely throw a live ball on the field inside
the ten yard line to cloak smart ball control?Did Kyle fake a punt
on fourth down up twenty to cloak that he might do that again? (Didn't he call
the onside kick against Wyoming the biggest mistake of his coaching career?)Was Wynn missing open recievers, and throwing the ball at the ground to
cloak the he is a Heisman quality QB?Nice job of cloaking White
IV.===The only team that Utah "cloaked"
anything from, was themselves.They had absolutely no idea what they
were doing last night but playing good D in the first quarter. They all looked
totally lost during the second half.
BYUCOLORADO,You are up in the night. Are you really trying to give
credit to Urban Meyer for the 2008 season? Give me a break!
Cloaking the offense?? C'mon people. I just woke up in Pollyannasville. Still,
those of you going to the opposite extreme are being a little silly as well. We
should have expected that Wynn wouldn't be 100% confident in the repaired
shoulder. First game with the new offense. Probably a lot of pressure on them to
come out and make a statement against a team that they have never lost to. I
expected a rocky start. Wasn't planning on trying to score tickets to the Rose
Bowl at the end of this season. Implementing Chow's system isn't going to be
seamless, and getting the tempo right is usually always an issue the first game
out. I suggest we all have a cocktail and calm down.
Utah's offense looked like UCLA's offense from the last two years. Chow is calling Ty Detmer later today to offer a formal apology.
davidutefan:I was reading and listening to ESPN and their impression
of Ole Miss was that they are good and maybe a year from challenging in the SEC.
Go figure, what has been doesn't mean you can project the future. I don't know
how the y will do, hope they represent us well. As I do for the u. The season is
young, let's enjoy the ride.
USC isn't that good so no reason to panic. Oregon, Oregon St, Arizona State, and
of course Stanford are all better than USC. Chow knows USC well and the
environment there so I suspect the U will pound USC next week.
Re: mindgames "Still hoping for theat BYU vs. Utah National Championship
game." How's that Mile High air treating you? Or maybe it's the smoke in
the air? As much as I like following the utes and BYU, a football national
championship for either will never happen. College football landscape has
changed too much. Both teams will need to be ranked in the pre-season Top 10 and
run the table to even get a sniff, and Utah, being in a BSC-qualified conf, has
a better chance of that then the Cougs.
In regards to not "showing" opposing teams too much, the goal is not
to hide the scheme...it's to hide the atheletes and their abilities. Sure, USC
has a ton of talent that can match up with ours but if they don't know who to
match up with on certain plays and formations, defenses have a difficult time
adjusting during the game if it wasn't prepared for.Besides that,
the offensive execution(excluding John White) was less than stellar for sure and
I hope a lot of film gets watched during our 10 days to prepare for USC.Cheers!
Montana State got a payday.Utah got a win.The UTES have
work to do.9/10 will a great way to measure how far the UTES have
lol at the majority of these comments. I have seen phrases such as "very
difficult time with" or "Utes are in for a long season" or
"barely beat an FCS team" you can't be serious! Sure,
Utah has some stuff to work on, and they won't go undefeated, but there were a
LOT of positives from this game. so let the haters keep hating. it just shows
how much utah is in your head and just how much you are worried about the series
becoming "3 of 4" and "7 of 10" in Utah's favor on the 17th!
As a USC alumnus, I'd like to officially welcome the utes into the Pac 12! You
had a very difficult handling a team from the Big Sky Conf. Your
preparation week-in & week-out will be much, much different than
you're use to. Can't wait to "play" with you next Saturday
in our house!
After this Game the PAC-10 may want to add Montana State to their list of
expansion teams.....Utah made them look pretty good...GO PAC 14
The Cougars don't have the luxury that the Utes had. They won't be able to hold
anything back when they play Ole Miss. Texas will know everything about BYU
after Saturday. USC is still scratching their heads about the Utes.
Practice makes perfect. Oops. If this was supposed to be a
"practice" game, the Utes did not treat is as such. I think we know
about as much about this Utah team as we did on Wednesday. Which is: Jordan Wynn
is timid and the D is pretty good.Next week we will know for sure
what kind of team we have on our hands.
.....Norm Chow is thinking "holy cow, what was I thinking coming
Now wait just a cotton-pickin minute. We were all told the following:"Chris B | 4:53 p.m. Aug. 30, 2011 Salt Lake City, UT Ole Miss 30byu 17Utah 45Montana State 10I'll remind you all next week when we see how close I was."I
guess chrissy got the 10 right. Not sure if the U will scare 45 given the
abysmal performance against an FCS team.
Chow cloaking his offense so USC will not have film? He's been at UCLA for the
past couple of years probably running the same offense. He's been a few other
places too with his offense, including USC! I think they are just in the early
season. Next week will be a tough one, but I wouldn't completely count the U
out for the season because of one game.
Before anyone forgets about Montana St., let's not forget that they were rated
5th or 6th in the FCS. Just remember that they beat last years champion. And
let's not forget what a defending FCS champion (App. St.) did to a very good
Michigan team at the big house. They have some studs on their defensive front
7, and their offense (very prolific) was held in check. Chow showed nothing on
offense - maybe 10 or a dozen diiferent formations, and no vertical pass game -
very vanilla. A great team like Montana St. was able to adjust and kept them in
check. With more of the playbook open (i.e., more wrinkles), it would have been
a little bit different.
I thought the Defense was ok last night, it was the first game , a few jitters I
think, where I would worry is the throwing game, Wynn did not look good at all,
yeah sure he threw a couple of touchdowns, but that was on short field, he
didn't command very well, at least to me, but I think the Utes will fix some
stuff and be very competitive against USC.
If it takes a couple of weeks to get Utah's "A" game....I'd rather get
the first loss from USC than a quick season shut-out by Washington or UCLA.
Utah is still in great shape...and that is the worst case.
After driving all evening and all night and catching the final score at
McDonald's wifi spots I get to a computer to check things out this morning in
Iowa and this is what I read?I'm somewhat surprised but it is only a
tune-up game. Wynn continues to unimpress out of the chute as many of us
expected, time will tell.Same thing could happen to BYU but I hope
not. Put up or shut up time for the Cougars.
For those of you who are hoping Chow was holding back -- do you really think ANY
of the old PAC 10 teams don't know 100% of his offense? No surprises waiting in
the wings there so I don't see any benefit to holding back. I'm afraid this is
a factor of kids (Wynn) learning the new scheme. Get your thinking caps on boys
or we're in for a rough ride.
Does Chris B want to change his BYU prediction before it is too late?
I had heard that Wynn was growing his hair out to support someone that had
cancer or something to that effect. Anyone know for sure?
Not exactly the 40-0 win I was expecting. But this pre-season game was a
"no win" situation. When Utah wins by 17 nobody will give them
credit. Wow, just think next week....Utah vs. USC and BYU vs. Texas. We are
rolling with the big boys. Hope that both Utah and BYU have big victories.
Still hoping for theat BYU vs. Utah National Championship game.
I love the "they didn't want to show them anything because they were
up" argument. It is hilarious. A fake punt while they are up by 20 (yet
later in the game they are only up 17 and yet they are "holding
back"). Give me a break. This is the same team that did an onside kick
while up 44 on Wyoming. Please don't tell me you are buying these "holding
Brian Blechen, John White, and Special Teams are the only 3 things that Utah
could be happy with after that game. White won't break 100 yards against the
Trojans though. This game next week is going to be so sad for Utah. I will pray
for you that you keep it within 30 points. Good luck, you will need it.
I am excited to see the next few years. Roughly 2008/2009 (because of missions)
was the end of the Meyer recruits. I am very excited to see how Whittingham does
the next few years. Unfortunately, there will be a rebuttal that
holds not water. In 2008 (I believe) when the MWC went 10-4 against the PAC10
Utes were saying they were not impressed by the PAC10. Now it is the only thing
they mention. So when they bomb the next few years they will just say "that
is what happens when you are not in the sisters of the poor conference" and
sing a completely different tune than they were a few years ago. Exciting times!
The u needs to look ahead to the south in pac10.ASU: CalDavisTotal offense 517 243First downs 24
12Passing 300 155Rushing 217
88ASU reserves paly part of 3rd and all of 4th. U is supposed to
win the south, USC and for sure ASU will have something to say about it. If as
many say, Whit was holding back so USC couldn't have film, he better get the
whole offense going soon. I don't see them winning any except maybe Colo &
UCLA in the south.Good luck and play the whole team on the field and
let them play.
Recycled Titan plays that didn't work in the NFL, didn't work last night, and
won't work any night. It better get fixed or it will be a very long season!
I was at the game and it appeared that Utah opened it up a little and then went
very conservative after building a respectable lead. Most of us at the stadium
thought they were holding quite a bit back. We were, however, concerned about
the O-line. They were inconsistent in the run game and merely adequate in the
passing game against an FCS team. Sure, there have been injuries and they
haven't played together as a unit long but, times up. Do the job or lose and
against the upcoming opponents, maybe lose your QB. the D has great speed and I
was impressed with them as a whole. I don't think anyone expects Utah to go
unbeaten but, the only ones that expect BYU to do so live in Utah county. Let's
see how you do against a bottom- tier SEC team before you spout off too much. I
don't want to hear the bull about the SEC either. Remember even Wyoming went to
Tennesse (a bottom tier SEC team at the time) and won when they were pathetic.
Just wait until Saturday, Ute Fans! BYU is going to show you how to win a real
football game. Ole Miss doesn't stand a chance. Jake Heaps is already a shoe
in for the Heisman and Brocno is a shoe in for Coach of the Year. Quest for
Perfection baby, 2011!!!
Four more first downs than an FCS team? Wow.
As this season unfolds, two questions will become increasingly apparent. First,
why did they recruit and sign Wynn when their offense (which was doing great)
was a spread/QB run option offense and Wynn was a skinny, slow drop back passer?
Second, why did they ditch this offense that gave them great success over the
last 5+ years for Norm Chow's 1980's offense?
I would have thought that Utah would have played Montana like Wisconsin played
UNLV. UNLV might have beat the Utes on a neutral field last night.
I was very surprised how bad the U looked, especially at QB. This is going to
be tough year, hopefully they can pull it together a little better and at least
have a decent showing...
I think chow should cloak his offense all season...go to battle without your
best assets...save them for the bowl game. Great strategy... Oh
yeah, maybe there won't be a bowl game for the Utes.
This is the culmination of everything that has been in the wind for months. It
has been clear for a long time that the Utes were not very happy, confident or
pumped. They have been less than enthusiastic about their team for some time
and it has been VERY OBVIOUS. It showed in last night's game. It's clear that
Kyle Wittingham is pretty unhappy and pretty concerned. A win is a
win. But, as Kyle stated, they're going to have to play a lot better than that.
As a Cougar fan I hope the Utes do good this season, except when they play BYU.
One this will make BYU look better, and it will prove teams from non BCS leagues
can compete inside the BCS leagues
Fellow Cougar Fans, let's keep it classy or don't comment. Ole Miss isn't a
guaranteed win for us and we've had our share of problems in the first game of
seasons before too.
Ok first and for most I'm a Coug fan, but I'm a state of Utah supporter and that
looked scary to me. I hope that was Chow holding back the O so theres no film.
Wynn looked confused and had no confidence at all. Whats the back up QB look
like??? USC is going to pressure Wynn the whole game next week.Good Luck
I didn't catch the game as it was not shown in our part of the country but I'm
anxious to hear what Chris B, Hedgie, Howard S, mgr63, Mildred, Ernie, and all
the other diehard Utah fans and BYU haters had to say. Strange there isn't a
peep so far from any of them. For me, I'm tickled they win, and I do hope they
continue to do well in their new conference and win out with their only loss
coming against the Cougars. For the state of Utah football, I want both teams
to do really well. Go Cougs! Go Utes!
Jordan, Please cut your hair so we can feel better about cheering for you.Yes, it's your life. You can look like that if you want but you are
making it harder on yourself than you think.It's not only
distracting you it's distracting all of us.If you are as concerned
with your looks as it appears than you are not focused on the meeting.Get on it.
Jordan Wynn with two td's? I think he needs to send Blechen a gift basket for
the way Blechen handed him that first one.Tough night. Maybe this is
the Utes stradegy to completely ugly up this game so the Trojans think they have
nothing to worry about. But.... Im sure that part of the plan was not to make
Jordan Wynn look timid, scared and down right horrible passing the ball. USC actually has play makers on their Dline and also some very good
LBers. Something the U Oline didnt have to deal with last night. Could be a long
season for the Utes if what saw last night is not part of a smoke and mirror
trick to make them look bad going into a tough stretch of games. We
will see what this team is actually all about when they have to pull out all the
stops for USC and actually fight instead of being on cruise control all night.
Guys, the idea of coach Whit or Chow cloaking their true offense is silly. I
would think the after having Chow coach in the PAC 10 and at BYU for years that
the PAC 10 teams would already have a fairly good idea what to expect from his
Utah's receivers got a lot of hype during fall camp yet Wynn completely ignored
them all night, the entire receiving core had 3 catches for 19 yards against
Montana St. Dres Anderson led the receivers in yardage with 22 yards rushing.
Wynn also completed just 1 pass over ten yards.I am praying that
Chow was holding back the passing game so that USC doesn't have any film on it,
if Wynn doesn't get his receivers involved against USC Utah will loose by 20.
I was disappointed with the offense. The running game looked solid, but the
line let them get to Wynn too many times and Wynn was telegraphing his passes
most of the night. I did like the short passes to the tight ends. They are a
bright spot as well, but Wynn's got to hit his receivers on the mid range and
deep routes or we'll be dead in the water. That kind of play will not work
against any PAC 12 opponents. The defense was okay. Our DB's and LB's did a
good job, but the line didn't put enough pressure on the QB until the 4th
quarter.Obviously the team's got work to do before next Saturday. I
haven't been expecting a win over USC, but now I'm worried about keeping it
If this is what the "new offense" is going to look like then the Utes
are in big trouble. Man I will take Any Ludwig and the wide open offense over
that pathetic display. BTW what the heel was that
like one of the other posters on here said...a win is a win. They got what they
came for. I'm a true blue blood, but its also true that success this season
with the Utes could bode well for the MWC and Utah collegiate sports, having
said that...Good luck against SoCal...you'll need it :)
My favorite play was the fake punt when they were up by 20 something.Where is Joe Glenn when you need him?Sorry Ute fans, it is going
to be a LONG year. I was really hoping to see Utah have a great year and make
the old MWC look good. Instead we are going to see the second coming of the
next Washington St. The defense can only keep you in the game for so long.
What I saw was Wynn's arm underperforming. That injury has taken the zip out of
it. It might take most of the season to get it back.USC will see the
same thing when they review film for next week's game. They'll shut down White,
knowing Wynn can't beat them through the air.Good luck, anyway,
As a true BYU fan, I would like to think Utah is much better than they showed
last night. I would like to think that Utah deliberately cloaked much of what
they are capable of because it was an FCS team. I couldn't tell if coach Whitt
rolled his eyes out of real concern or if it was a poker face when David Locke
wished him luck next week. The running game was solid with White but
he is small and can he sustain himself through the PAC 12? The O line looked
suspect and the defense was, as Whitt said adequate, but that is a relative term
in relation to Montana State and USC. The kicking game was perfectly awesome.I fear the worst but truly hope for the best for Utah.
I am a BYU fan, and have been all of my life, and I think we better not spout
off before our season even begins. We have proven absolutely nothing yet this
year. While I believe that we will have a great year, and will beat the Utes, we
haven't even played our first game. Besides, do we really want the Utes to fail
in the Pac 12? Do we want everyone around the country to be proven right about
the "weakness" of the Mountain West? Whether you like it or not, if
the Utes succeed, it only helps our cause.
Preferably, opening games make a statement for the rest of the season. The
statement for this game was...bleh. It doesn't do much to inspire, nor does it
consign the Utes to an awful season. This is why playing an FCS school in
Week 1 is so dangerous: you under-perform against an inferior opponent, you're
in trouble; you perform well, you did it against a FCS school - is there another
acceptable outcome?Bottom line is that we still don't know anything about
Coach Whittingham has been considered by most as a top twenty coach in the
nation...well now we shall see if he can resurrect this team from a performance
at a mid FCS level.Coach Whitt inherited a great team with the
stables full of horses...now lets see if he can turn these average ponies into
horses...however, his running back is a stud.Good luck, but there
are clouds on the horizon.
Hey, it's all good. You guys got what you came for, a win. The improvements will
come over time. I am excited though for the 17th, that's going to be a fun game.
You guys will do great the rest of the season.
All I can say is, the Utes were really lucky to be able to start the season with
a practice scrimmage. Had they started with a PAC-12 season opener...wow.
It did appear that the Utes had an un-remarkable game. The offense was mostly
lethargic and the defense looked out of sync. I thought they would have half a
dozen sacks. Maybe they just played down to their competition and maybe MSU was
just a very good team. Wynn diddn't look good. White did but who knows how much
the competition level affected that.On the bright side, they got the
butterflies worked out and they have 2 extra days to prepare for USC.
Whittingham has been very good at preparing for big games.Hope they get
things figured out.
Coach, you need to play #22 on your roster! The kid's got SKILLS!
That was a sweet 'Wynn'. I know it was just a FCS team, but a win is a win. We
looked awesome. Jordan throwing for over 100 yards is great. I always look on
the bright side, if there was not a defense at all, I think he could have thrown
for 150-180 yards easy. GoUTES
Lets be honest, Utes looked Hooooorrrraaaabbblllleee against a not to good team.
This is not your BCS buster of the past. Utes better get their game on or SoCal
will totally run them.
hahaha, you had all your starters in the whole game and it was only montana
state....hahahahaha spin it any which way utes...it stops at the same spot after
ever spin. runaway utes 3USC 65
Well, a Wynn is a win, some would say - good luck the rest of the year . . .
I just kept thinking....did the Utes pull out their second team? ...um no.
I am a BYU supporter but I think this article is probably a bit critical. At
this point of the season, a win is a win. The Utes will most certainly play
better against USC.
U have nothing to worry about against the Trojans. After this performance, it's
very obvious that the offense is right where it needs to be with a commanding
30+ yard advantage in total offense over this FCS team. It's very apparent that
Wynn is already executing Chow's new pro style offense to perfection easily
eclipsing the 100 yard mark in passing. Wow! If U can put up numbers like this
against Montana State, I can only imagine what you will do to USC. Good luck
how do you spell rose bowl? wow. pac 10 plus two here we come.
I'm not buying it, I could see the utes not putting there offense out there for
USC to see, I think They will be a different team next week.
"We've got to play better. I've got to play better," Wynn
said,"We'll watch the tape and learn from it."Jordan,
there is only so much you can learn from watching film. What you really need to
do is practice and get in sync with your WR's. It certainly didn't look like the
passing game spread the field. It was a good victory. But it looks like there is
plenty of room for improvement. Go Utes!
nooooo, really? hahaha