Wally West: There is a lot of land in Provo that the church doesn't own.
Vanka, I have a question for you. This may seem like a ridiculous and overly
sarcastic question, but it is simply as serious as your statement about the LDS
Church having a real estate monopoly.Would you criticize the LDS
Church for breathing too much also?I ask this because I've yet to
see a comment of praise from you. I can't imagine anyone going to an LDS Church
for that long and only finding bad with the Church. I am questioning your
claim.I'll remind you now about the high level of bank-owned land in
Utah and throughout the country. This bothers me FAR more than any other entity.
Most of the Church's land is put to use, and fills a need. The Church has EVERY
legal right to do so. That right is to protect my freedom to worship from people
who would prevent citizens from peaceably assembling and worshiping as they
may.Do you not believe in the same freedom? I assume you do as such
freedoms are protected for yourself the same. I simply think you are misplacing
your feelings against a group of people. Please change or at least
peacefully leave us alone.
@Check this out....I was thinking the same thing. A new Temple??
You mean there is land in Provo not owned the church? That is newsworthy.
DO NOT forget the real Zion of Doctrines and Covenants.When will we build
a holy city?It can only begin when we petition our government to turn to
God's written wisdom to rule our nation. We are all to live by every word out
of the mouth of God. Matthew 4:4, 28:17-20.The way is prepared NOW
to change and forsake the bondage of lifelong enslavement to employment that is
destroying the world. God says He is coming to destroy those who are destroying
the world. We must realize He is here as the Word of God being fulfilled.Time to avoid the greater traps of the employment system, with
insurances for health care that deny the power of God and will require the Mark
of the Beast to keep tract of our insurance payments, medical treatments and
history. Surely it will be promoted as a way to save large sums of money.Building up Salt Lake City is not where our focus needs to be. Was this
a command from God? I doubt it. We have more serious challenges that He is
@ JoeBlowI'm sure the businesses downtown will be aghast, and lock
their doors, if more members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
were to purchase goods and services from them because more people would
participate in whatever the Church decides to do with that property. Let alone
all of the other good people of other faiths that appreciate the good things
that would also be available to them.I am also sure that Provo City
wouldn't accept the revenue that comes into the city coffers resulting from the
same people. Just saying, they wouldn't even accept the tax check and just mark
it "return to sender."Are you having a bad day? Did
someone poison your favorite pet? Or, are you just disgruntled that the world
could be a better place? Most likely you wouldn't even be excluded from enjoying
the same things as everyone else because of what the Church may do with the
"You can't seriously think that a lot of taxes are being collected on that
land currently"I would agree with you.However,
collectively, can you imagine the tax bill for all of the holdings?Enormous.
Isn't that the Motel where Gary Gilmore committed his first murder by killing
the attendant? Or was that a couple blocks further South? The last murder was
in Orem at a Sinclair station on 800 North.I would love to see the
original tabernacle restored. Then please, don't ignore fire alarms and the
smell of smoke! I have memories of things that happened in my family in that
tabernacle.I too am curious as to how they will use property on the
OTHER side of the street. Will they buy the 100 South street to adjoin the 2
properties like they did with Main Street in SLC?
I fail to see how the church's real estate holdings constitute either a monopoly
or a problem. This state was settled by Mormons. Most of its cities were built
by Mormons, including Provo. A large number of the state's current inhabitants
are Mormons (including 88% of Provo's residents as of 2000, according to the
Association of Religion Data Archives). So it's not surprising that the church
would own a lot of land in Utah or Provo.But Provo isn't a
"company town" owned by the church--far from it. Anyone can buy and
sell land in Provo; no one is obligated to use the church's property in Provo;
and the purchase of these new properties doesn't change either of those things.
JoeBlow You can't seriously think that a lot of taxes are being
collected on that land currently?!It will be nice to see that
section of University Avenue be more like the beautifully restored and
maintained area north of it. Since it is one of the main arteries to enter
Provo, it'll be nice if the first impression isn't a run-down motel.
Well, that's a sign the Church is going to do something, such as restore the
Tabernacle, rather than tear it down as a total loss.
Yay there won't be an empty lot there anymore.
Rebuild the Tabernacle, incorporate the Mexican retaurant into it, call it the
Provo Tabernacle and Cantina and it's all good. Queso and chips, a little
carnitas, a talk on families, it will fill the house.
The church's real estate investments are a monopoly in this state, and do not
need to be increased.
More property taken off of the tax roles. Don't complain when your taxes go up.
I just want to tabernacle to be restored!
I would really like to see a community center or homeless shelter built by the
church there. I wouldn't like the idea of the churh buying more land to invest
in business and real-estate. What good does that do?
There gonna rebuild it across the street!!!
A lot of possibilities come to mind: A new chapel or two, a visitors' center,
expanded parking for a rebuilt tabernacle, a family history center, more room
for welfare services? Those who make the tough decisions between needs and
resources will let us know soon enough.
There are several blocks in that area that need fixing up. I just wonder how
many feathers are going to get raffled when The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints tries to purchase the street between the two blocks and really
makes something out of it?Everything the LDS Church does is
beautiful, wholesome, and good but there are always a few that feel they have
the responsibility to desecrate and degrade everything good.
A Temple downtown instead of it's iconic location at the mouth of Rock Canyon?
A new temple for Provo perhaps?
Thank goodness someone bought those properties. Those motels were eye soars to
everyone who had to drive past them.
The blocks just south of the tabernacle are a bit of an eyesore. If this
purchase results in a facelift there, that would be fantastic.