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Published: Thursday, Sept. 1 2011 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Salt Lake City, Utah

Why would a leader (Obama) wait until now to offer a plan for jobs and economic growth when we needed it long ago? Obviously it is a grandstanding gimmick.

The Rasmussen daily Presidential Tracking Poll shows that only 19% of the nation's voters strongly approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. The same poll shows that 44% strongly disapprove of his performance.

Sandy, UT

Come on Obama show some backbone and draw a line in the sand. Go big or go home.

casual observer
Salt Lake City, UT

This is embarrassing for a presidential leader. He's been in office for almost three years, in two of which he had a super majority in Congress. Only now he realizes that there is a jobs problem?

Cedar Hills, UT

What kind of games is this president playing with the people of the U.S.? Don't tell me he and his fellow conspirators didn't know that they were double booking the republicans. We need some adults to take over the White House. 2012 can't come soon enough. The sad thing is the fix is probably already in, with groups like ACORN getting out the vote.

Farmington, UT

This is another huge embarassment for Obama. He announced a month ago he was going to give a speech about jobs and the economy. So obviously he was in no hurry. And now, his need to give this speech has become dire and urgent, so he tried to schedule over a GOP debate. You know the Obama re-election campaign staff is well-aware when the GOP debate is--heck, they're even already writing their responses to the GOP debate.

If Obama really does have a plan, he had better be presenting the nitty gritty details. If he is just going to try to motivate Congress to do the right thing, then Obama truly is a failure.

Mesa, AZ

So the whiz kids at the White House figured they could embarrass Boehner into accepting the date, with a quick call to notify the speaker of the request and then, blamo, a public announcement. But Boehner was blunt, not clever, and just did in public what he would have done in private. Once the president had played politics with his request, it gave Boehner all the cover he needed to politicize his response.

The timing of the speech doesn't matter, if Obama is sitting on a bombshell plan that can win bipartisan accord in Congress no matter when he released it.

However, if the plan is a bunch of small-scale policy retreads or a call for politically impossible large-scale measures or some combination of the two, the speech will be little more than a campaign ad in which Obama casts himself as the reasonable man battling an unreasonable system.

So, does the magic man have the answers?

Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

ObamaNation sets sights on speech. The first place for key truthful political news is "LiL Ole Me". Just like Congress did a month ago in the debt-ceiling fight, the Obama White House and Republican-led House yesterday battled over something that used to be routine: a presidential address to Congress. Once again, both sides looked bad. That's just about as bad as Iranian publishers are complaining that cost-saving plans to print Qurans in China are yielding embarrassing results. A slew of typos. The head of Iran's Quran oversight office says some of the Chinese-printed versions of Islam's holy book are littered with spelling errors. Officials are now discussing a ban on Chinese-printed Qurans. What do they expect anyway, when you use child labor for 20 hours a day, they get un-educated, and can't spell right.

Now for more politically correct hogwash. With all those "goody two shoes" BYU smart people in Utah, what part of "deportation of illegal immigrants" is it that you can't understand?. Don't even give me those illegal RINO "talking points" about high profile good members of the community who happen to be here illegally hogwash. Report then deport them all.

Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: Pagen | 9:02 a.m. Sept. 1, 2011
"Obama hasn't even SAID yet"

That's the problem!! When did Obama find out what the rest of us have known for months and why did he decided to wait until now to come up with this new 'plan'?

Obama had 3 weeks to plan this political stunt and then it blows up in his face. He had to back down when Speaker John Boehner told him to reschedule his speech.

Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

Dear Mr. Schroeder,

Thank you for contacting me in regard to the job market and its effects on our economy and the American taxpayer. One of the most significant challenges we face as a nation is an overwhelming debt and a stagnant economy. We must immediately address these issues in order to put more people to work and achieve a fiscally secure future, including changes to our tax code through common sense reforms and reforming our regulatory structure.

In order to work toward steady job growth, we must take tax increases out of the conversation in Washington. Unless Congress acts expeditiously, every taxpayer will see unprecedented tax increases in 2013. We can encourage investment in the United States for both foreign and domestic businesses and establish an atmosphere where job creation is easier than it is under our current economic climate by taking tax hikes off the table.

I was elected on pro-growth economic policies that would reform our tax code and regulatory structures to help create jobs. The American people have every reason to be disappointed by Congress' unwillingness to fix our complicated tax code and our burdensome regulatory structure.


Senator Marco Rubio


Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: Pagen | 10:04 a.m. Sept. 1, 2011
"Would anyone listen?"

Doubtful, that's why Obama is foundering. He was going to come out of the starting gate showing people how aggressive he could be and House Speaker John Boehner immediately makes him back down and reschedule his speech.

Caving defines the history of Obama's presidency.

Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

How about we all say Obama, 4 more years?. Now we know why Republicans refuse to lift a finger to help struggling families find work, they're "not worth" the help, according to the GOP. That's what one GOP legislator in New Hampshire said over the weekend when her state completely repealed its minimum-wage - that most people who earn the minimum are not worth $7.25 for an hours work. But this is more than a case of one legislator's total contempt for working families. Republicans have launched a nationwide campaign to drive down wages and family incomes by repealing the minimum wage completely. The Republicans must stop insulting working families and to stop attacking the minimum wage. This goes far beyond the stale Tea Party rhetoric weve come to expect from the GOP. The minimum wage raises incomes for all workers by forcing employers to fight harder for the best employees. And it protects millions of the very oldest and very youngest workers from discrimination and exploitation because of their age. At every possible turn, Republicans demand more and more "sacrifice" by the poor and the middle class, while right-wing special interests benefit. FIRE John Boehner today.

Flying Finn
Murray, UT


The reason the people are not listening to President Obama is that they have lost confidence in his ability to do his job. People are wondering why the President has waited until now to announce his new plan to stimulate the economy when the plan should have already been implemented months ago.

Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

Now I thought one can't mix Federal with State, when it was called Obamacare?.

New Hampshire Republican: Young workers "not worth" a decent wage

Young people: they don't deserve voting rights, they shouldn't speak up about public policies that effect them, and now they don't deserve a decent wage either, at least according to GOP state legislators. Over the weekend, a Tea Party inspired bill went into effect in New Hampshire, finalizing the total repeal of that state's minimum wage. The GOP legislator who sponsored the bill took the occasion to argue that repeal was necessary because younger workers don't deserve the princely sum of $7.25 for an hour's work: State Rep. Carol McGuire, the Epsom Republican who sponsored the bill, acknowledges it changes little and could be restored by lawmakers at any time. She would have liked to have repealed the minimum wage entirely and let the free market dictate wages, she said. "It's very discriminatory, particularly for young people. They're not worth the minimum," she said. As is the case all across the country, the GOPs anti-growth agenda including their ideological crusade against working families is holding back job growth for everyone in America.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Is America waiting to hear another "plan" from Mr. Obama? Are they going to sit by their TVs while he reads yet another "teleprompter" speech? When only 19% strongly support him, maybe the best thing he could do would be to shut off the TV cameras, shut off the microphones, and deliver his speech to those members of Congress who still have confidence in him. With a near empty room, he would not want the public to see how completely he has failed as CEO of America.

Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: Pagen | 10:04 a.m. Sept. 1, 2011

It's the same old story. It was important for Obama to show his new resolve, there was a clash over scheduling, and he caved. His handlers just can't seem to do anything right. No wonder his poll numbers keep dropping.

USS Enterprise, UT

To "Pagen | 11:25 a.m." this is the 3rd time that we have had Obama give us a "jobs" plan. Is his plan going to work this time?

From the Huffington Post September 6, 2010 "Obama's Labor Day Speech 2010: President Assails GOP, Promotes Job Creation Program"

From the Huffington Post, December 8, 2009, "Obama Jobs Speech: Help For Small Businesses, Transportation, Energy-Efficient Homes" This was his first attempt at a job building program.

What do you think, will his 3rd plan in 3 years finally work, or should we give him some more time to figure it out?

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

I find it typical of BO that his team is calling for voters to hold congress responsible - as if he himself bears no responsibility whatsoever. Well, he is irresponsible and has never really led.

As others have said, BO and his cabal had to know perfectly well they were trying to upstage the repub debate. And if this speach is so important, why did he wait?

No, this has NOTHING to do with jobs and EVERYTHING to do with political grandstanding.

metamora, IL

Whew! They had me worried there for a minute! Glad to know the President will not be delaying the start of the NFL season with some useless (and free) campaigning in front of Congress.

Beaverton, OR

What kind of four-way fit would Fox News and it's minions be throwing if Nancy Pelosi had denied a request by President Bush to address a joint session of Congress?

Something like that has never happened until now.

Boehner has also declined invitations to the past three State Dinners hosted by the Obamas.

Boehner did attend a State Dinner for Queen Elizabeth in 2007 when George W. Bush was in the White House.

So, certainly no respect from Obama's fellow politicians.

As far as the rest of you?

What would happen if Obama had given a jobs plan 3 weeks ago, before he (and everybody else) left DC for vacation? Would you all be happy with his solutions?

Or what if he wasn't going to address the nation next week with his jobs plan? You'd all complain that he had no solutions.

The man can't win for losing with you people.

metamora, IL

Christy: You are absolutely correct. Mr. Obama cannot win for losing with us -- and an ever increasing number of people across the nation (not just in Utah).

The man makes a good speech. I give him credit for that skill. But he is witless in ever other regard. He couldn't even gather good people around him to support and help him in his presidency, but got a bunch of witless, obtuse ninnies. Now before pagan jumps all over me for not providing evidence, here is one of the most obvious:

Have you seen the video of him giving a toast to Queen Elizabeth while "God Save the Queen" is playing? If he didn't know that was socially unacceptable (read: total insult to the Queen and the people of the nation who are our best allies) shouldn't his people have prepped him on that?

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