Comments about ‘Texas A&M plans to leave Big 12 by July 2012’

Bleed Crimson

An 8-year exclusive contract with the worldwide leader in sports and ten games on ESPN in their first year as an independent says differently; but you're welcome to you opinion.

Colorado and Utah (an after-thought) were invited to the PAC 12 as nothing more than place holders so the PAC 12 could hold a championship game.

Utah being completely ignored by ABC/ESPN when the 2011 football schedule was being decided is proof that Utah is now the little kid sitting in the high chair at the big boys table.

Spoken like a true independent WAC schedule diehard Truth Machine.

Swoop said:

"Who are you kidding?

Football is the 800-lb gorilla that is solely responsible driving the realignment train.

Even basketball plays a distant 2nd fiddle, and the other sports don't even appear as a blip on the radar."

No Swoop, who are you kidding?
The poster i quoted was only talking about football. I pointed out that the Pac 12 is the leader in all combined sports for NCAA titles. Do you have a problem with that, or the fact that BYU does not belong to a conference at all?

I never thought that BYU was a very good fit for the Pac 12. The Pac 12 is a very liberal conference that holds many sporting events on Sunday and BYU is probably the most conservative University in America and will not play on Sunday. The Pac 12 is the 2nd best medical research conference in the world next to the Ivy league, but BYU doesn't even have a medical school, etc.

However I do think that BYU fits in perfectly with the Big 12. There are other religious institutions in the conference, it works geographically, and overall academic philosophies line up. I think BYU would be foolish not do everything they can to get into that conference and the Big 12 would be foolish to not try and bring in BYU. BYU can make football Independence work, but ever single other BYU sport will suffer by being stuck in the WCC.

huntererer

"Why would there be "panic" on the Hill as some of you have suggested? I thought Utah was no longer part of your thoughts."

You're confused. It's the kids on the hill who claimed that BYU was no longer part of their thoughts who are now panicking because BYU could not only be on the verge of having their own exclusive contract with ESPN and having their own private television network, but doing so, while being a member of a BCS conference.

The kids on the hill are entering full panic mode because every lame argument they've been making for over a year is about to be obliterated.

NightOwlAmerica

Spoken like a true BCS conference light weight.

The half-a-dozen or so WAC teams on BYU's schedule for the next couple of seasons is but a short-term scheduling pinch that will soon be filled with a schedule of quality opponents from across the country, or possibly, a full slate of Big 12 opponents.

Utah, on the other hand, is destined for middle of the PAC mediocrity.

btw, Ole Miss, Texas, Utah, TCU, FCU, and Oregon State are not in the WAC, Utah State is a traditionall rival, and Hawaii is an old rivally that BYU wanted to renew anyway, and Idaho State is no different than Utah playing Montana State.

In reality, the only "WAC schedule" opponents BYU has this season are San Jose State, Idaho, and New Mexico State.

If somehow BYU joins the imploding Big12-2 we will know about.
If not, for the next decade and more we will hear about more alleged rumors and bogus invites of what could have been. Such is the history of a WAC legacy program. The past four decades prove that. Its built upon a house of alleged conference invites and rumors.

NightOwlAmerica

Utah is going to be like a fish out of water when in comes to being in the "conference of champions" because Utah's minor sports are pathetic, and have been for decades.

Besides football, women's gynmnastics is the only sport Utah has been competive in recently. Even Utah's once proud basketball team is a train wreck. A far as Utah is concerned, the PAC 12 might as well be the "conference of doormats", because that's what Utah's going to be in the PAC 12.

BlueCoug:

"At least BYU will be joining the Big 12 based on the excellence of its sports programs and national fan base, rather than some bogus 'research' university criteria that has absolutely nothing to do with sports."

Not so. For starters, the Y hasn't been invited. Additionally, if the Big XII valued your "national fan base" you would have been invited the moment Colorado left. Yet here you are...all frantic, emotional, and mid-major-ey. There's been room in that conference for over a year now, but the Big XII never called.

NightOwlAmerica

You're just jealous because U have no legacy:

national championships - 0
Heisman Trophy winners - 0
hall of fame players - 0
nat'l individual awards - 0
AP top 25 finishes - only 5

Naval Vet

Who made you the expert to decide the Big 12's time table for expansion and what criteria they will use?

The only frantic bloggers I see are jealous Utah trolls who are scared to death that all of their thunder is about to be stolen. Somehow they mistakenly believe that if they spam BYU blogs enough they can make it all go away.

I thought joining a BCS conference was not something BYU wanted to do. I also thought that Independence was your first option, not a backup plan or a reaction to Utah joining a BCS conference. Your posts are providing quite a bit of comedy, as always.

Now that there is even the slightest opportunity to join a BCS conference you're excited. HA!!!

Igualmente | 1:30 p.m. Aug. 31, 2011
Mesa, AZ
BYU is not in consideration for Big XII membership.

There is too much local pull to get Arkansas, SMU, TCU, or UH into the league. Then, there is the contingency that wants to get ASU and UA to join the Big XII.

Texas will not let any of the above schools in the Big 12. They left the SWC to get away from all of them. Conferences are about money, not sports. Those schools bring no more money. BYU brings around $10 - 12 million (estimated) ESPN contract, a HD broadcasting capability, as well as 5 million nationwide, and 10 million international potential viewers.

The other schools don't come close.

@wookie

Why should we "trust" you simply because you live in Big 12 country? You don't know anything more than anyone else plus the fact you are a ute troll makes your credibility even less since we all realize you are simply projecting your desires and nothing of fact.

I personally am torn on what I want BYU to do if an invitation is given to them. But "trust"ing you really doesn't even enter into any equations.

TrollPolice:

"NightOwlAmerica

You're just jealous because U have no legacy."

You have no conference. Beating up the WAC makes BYU a legacy program? Oh Please!
Again I ask. If your alleged legacy program is so great, why have you not joined a power conference the past 4 decades? Let the rumors and alleged invites begin!

Truth Machine said:

"An 8-year exclusive contract with the worldwide leader in sports and ten games on ESPN in their first year as an independent says differently; but you're welcome to you opinion.

Colorado and Utah (an after-thought) were invited to the PAC 12 as nothing more than place holders so the PAC 12 could hold a championship game.

Utah being completely ignored by ABC/ESPN when the 2011 football schedule was being decided is proof that Utah is now the little kid sitting in the high chair at the big boys table."

Yep you are welcome to your opinion as well. And what is wrong with the PAC 12 having a championship game?

At least Utah is sitting at the table. They are entering their 1st year in a BCS conference. BYU, where are they again?

If BYU loses do you honestly think ESPN will keep showing their games throughout the duration of their contract? They will just port them over to BYU-TV. Even more, ESPN can renegotiate the contract. The only guarantee is that BYU and ESPN have a contract. It can be changed.

phoenix said:

"NightOwlAmerica

Utah is going to be like a fish out of water when in comes to being in the "conference of champions" because Utah's minor sports are pathetic, and have been for decades.

Besides football, women's gynmnastics is the only sport Utah has been competive in recently. Even Utah's once proud basketball team is a train wreck. A far as Utah is concerned, the PAC 12 might as well be the "conference of doormats", because that's what Utah's going to be in the PAC 12."

Jimmer is gone. Get over it.

I think all of you who are speculating and hoping that BYU will join the Big 12 are going to be gravely disappointed. Since the Leaders of the LDS church are the ones who will make the final determination as to weather BYU will go with the Big 12 or not, chances are very good that they will remain independent. The LDS church and its Leaders are not known for changing direction in the mid stream of things. They beleive in staying the course and in making things work. And since they have a course of action that will provide BYU and the Church greater exposure to the world, I think we will see BYU remain Independent.

Notice to Tom Holmoe and Bronco. Just remember all the 64000 of us who have bought season tickets and supported cougar sports long before you guys were even on the scene. Bring in some teams to Provo to play us. The home schedules in football and basketball are pathetic. If independence keeps shafting the home fans who have to endure terrible home schedules so Bronco can give his players real life experiences in exotic locations, bring on the Big 12 as soon as possible. We the loyal home fans deserve something better than what you have given us with this independence.

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