MMU"Nothing has changed, EPSN or not."Only a
crimson-shaded glasses wearing jealous little brother would try to convince
himself that TEN games on ESPN with unlimited replays and live broadcasts on
BYUtv is no different than the lame MTN.Reality will set in when
you're searching for Utah football on the weekly television schedule and all you
can find is BYU.But, keep telling yourself that nothing has changed.
Life after a divorce may not be as good as you think...Mid-major is
still a mid-major. Nothing has changed, EPSN or not.
Wait till the "powers that be" in Salt Lake say that Independance is
perferable to big time sports in the Big 12. That just might end up being the
Chris B and Hedghog are one and the same. If either one was ever found out by
taking a wager, he/she would simply change his name to further erode his
percieved relevance. He/She is so obsessed with all things BYU that he/she
stays up late to be the first one to comment on BYU articles. He/She is not a U
fan either. U fans have more respect for an opponent, especially the rival
opponent. Save you breath Cougar fans. The only life he/she leads
is to reread BYU articles and postings by Cougar fans to read what response his
irrelevant posts drew out. Go Cougars.
I don't see why so many BYU fans are so anxious to jump at joining a BCS conf.
IMO it's not all some people are trying to make it out to be. What has it done
for Arizona or Arizona St., not much, how many BCS games or NC games have they
played in? Not many. Money wise, yes it is a benefit but otherwise it isn't all
that. BYU can make it as an independent and money wise they will make
plenty. Football wise, winning is the key, if BYU wins everything else will take
care of itself. Utah may end up better than Arizona or Arizona St or Colorado or
Washington St or Cal or any of the other BCS conf. middle of the pac teams but
that is yet to be determined. The big 10 is too unstable to jump at joining that
conf. IMO staying independent is the best road, at least until situations and
Independence is definitely looking better than it did when first announced. I
still think it would be in BYU's best interest to join a strong football
conference, like the current Big XII, and if they were invited, they should only
accept under certain conditions: 1. Texas and Oklahoma must remain members
of the conference. If one or the other or both were to leave, BYU should be
allowed to leave as well, penalty free. This may be a moot condition anyway
since the conference may very well desintigrate without the two powers at the
top.2. BYUtv should continue to be able to broadcast live non-nationally
televised games and rebroadcast all games. There should be no qualms about this
since BYU doesn't have any desire to broadcast high school games, and therefore
gain a recruiting advantage a la Texas. 3. And, of course, no Sunday-play
is a given. If the Big XII doesn't want to agree to the above
conditions, no big deal. Stick with Independence.
Just what exactly did Chris B's comment have to do with the article?He
posted the same thing here that he has posted on other articles.Let's ban trash talk from the comment boards here. It violates the rules.Chris B's comment was off topic and should be removed.I have had
many of my own comments rejected for less.
crisb;I will make you a wager. The one that is farthest away on
point spread between these two games goes away for a year. That means you would
still be able to post under hedgehog moniker. I don't have another ID so I would
be gone for a year. crisbole miss 30byu 17Utah 45Montana State 10 TJBYU 38Ole Miss 20Montana State 24utah 28.
UU32,I personally have never said "Indy is better than
Pac12".BYU fans wanted Pac12 more than anything. It obviously
wasnt a good fit. So, instead of drone on in the Mountain Worst, BYU decides to
forge ahead on their own. At first, I thought Indy would be very risky. How
could they handle the scheduling and where would BYU fans watch the games? Enter
ESPN. I think thats what get fans around the country so excited about the future
of Independence. Whats better? MWC or Indy? Not even a question.IMO, going Indy shows the "big boys" that BYU is not content. You
dont want to invite us? Well, we'll just do it our way. Once the "big
boys" see how eager ESPN is to partner with BYU its an eye opener. Maybe
BYU deserves to be a part of a major conference after all.Would I
have loved for it to be Pac12? Of Course. But thats not an option. B12 is just
SoCalUtahFanIt must be so hard for you to hear from media that BYU
is the best fit for the Big XX. And eve harder that they might invite them and
BYU turn it down.Or, conversely that BYU's independence stole the
thunder from u's jump.Even all the way from California you can't
leave BYU alone.So your whole argument about being lonely is,
well...silly.If you can't leave BYU alone, imagine all the BYU
supporters, or people who are just on the fence tuning in just to see. If you
can't leave BYU alone imagine all the media when BYU wins.I guess it
is so lonely over there in utesville, you have no choice but to comment on BYU
boards. That is so sad.
UU32: IMO those BYU fans who are anxious to join a BCS conf. are only looking at
things from a football perspective. The bigger picture is exposure and
furthering the cause of spreading the message of the restored gospel. The way
things are now, with the ESPN contract etc things are pretty good. I
personally think staying independent is the best option. Winning will be the
key.The only way going to a BCS conf. would be prefered is if doing so
would make furthering the cause better. If BYU could keep their TV aggreement
with ESPN and still have all the freedoms they now have with their own TV
network, maybe going to a BCS conf would be better but there are alot of ifs.
The big 12/10 is pretty unstable at present and I'm not sure they would want to
give BYU what BYU would be wanting. To me belonging to a BCS conf. is way over
rated, look at Arizona and Arizona St. they bolted 35 yrs ago, how many NC games
have they played in? How many BCS bowl games have they played in? Not many.
Money is the only plus. BYU isdoingfine moneywise.
Chris BStill not man enough?Take the wager, if you are
Single life?More like lonely life."Quest to be
alone" is about to start....:)
So, BYU fans, help me understand, is Independence the ultimate destination or a
stepping stone to get into a BCS conference? When Independence was
first announced, along with the marriage to the WCC for other sports, it was a
long term commitment, the greatest thing ever to happen to BYU sports. It was
the opportunity to fulfill the mission of the church and the best venue to
accomplish the goals of the athletics program and the univeristy. Now the Big-12 is sniffing around. And the wandering eye comes -- the grass
may be greener? The Big-12 may be the ultimate destination - even better than
Independence? I am struggling because all I have heard as a Utah
fan, from my BYU friends is that Independence is far superior to affiliation
with the Pac-12. That Utah jumped for money and forgot all its allegiances and
the true pursuit of collegiate amatuer athletics. Now that BYU is on the docket
for the Big-12, it seems that some (not all) think BCS is ultimate goal. Help me
understand. Not trying to stir the pot, just honestly confused. No,
Chris B and hedgehog - I'm not asking for your help.
IMO, BYU needs to stay independent, the big 12/10 isn't stable and BYU has
enough clout to forge their own path, winning is the key. Having control over
their own situation is prefered, IMO.
We are almost to the one-year anniversary of announcing our Independence! It
will remain to be seen whether Independence is the answer for the long-haul or
merely the stepping stone. I find it gratifying that either option has so much
upside. Taking the analogy from the article to the over-the-edge extreme, if
BYU is now living the high life of a free spirited single, and the Big 12 comes
calling with a marriage proposal, do the strong words spoken in the last General
Conference about the importance of settling down and getting married pertain to
BYU Independence as well as YSAs? Just a random thought :)Great
I can't believe it! There must be two of us that play the Tuba in the basement.
ole miss 30byu 17Utah 45Montana State 10
Very well written, nice parallels!Saturday, here we come!
im one of the critical ones with your article....this one however was very easy
to read and kind of funny....great job. thanks.
BYU enjoys unfettered freedom, creates jealous and envy for teams that only wish
they could do the same thing. Texas is also considering breaking the oppression.
Utah is hoping they can survive not getting paid by the pac 12 this year, the
honeymoon is over.
Doug:Great job on this one. Your best ever. The Wayne and Garth's
basement TV station line cracked me up. I can't wait to hear about their big
date this week-end. Let's hope they generate some sparks and we'll go get some
"Utah fans might have something different to say on that subject but maybe
no one will bother to ask."Now THAT was funny!
Looks like the single life will be very short lived for BYU in that the Big 12
will come calling this week fullfilling Brad's prophecy!
I always love your articles Doug. Some don't seem to appreciate your sense of
humor, but I love it. Keep up the good work!