No other generation has been coached up more to believe they can do anything and
have anything they desire. Why is the author and many of you 'old people'
shocked when this generation actually wants something. Its been
interesting watching the work environment on hill afb. There is a new generation
of extremely skilled, talented, educated, and computer savy 20 somethings - and
then the old guard of 55 yr olds still living in the analog world. The youth get
ten times the work done, while the old timers whine about an entitled generation
wanting what it took them 40 years to get, even if the youth are deserving now.
Entitlement is a problem when one doesn't put the work in. The
bigger problem, however might be with the 40yr+ genrations that have told the
youth to work hard and go get it. You are irriated when they might accomplish
something that took you many more years to do. I think I speak for my generation
when I say that we have no interest in 'waiting our turn'. You taught us well,
and now we're are seizing the day so to speak!
Excellent feature! I was attracted to it because the topic is certainly
germane. I was expecting politicizing...and references were there...but I found
balance. The problem of materialism is in the DNA of social structure and
exists (in my opinion) as a dominant allele.
Odd, i thought i remember reading somewhere that generation Z were hard workers,
a lot better than Y.
Except if you lived through the depression about every generation feels entitled
to the generation previous. This stuff is way overrated, overhyped etc. The
idea that this new generation will want anything any more or any faster than
any previous generation is the older's generations' own self-absorbed attempt to
make it feel superior. And I'm a 40 something and we wanted things just as fast
as the kids today. Again, let's get real...
Corporate entitlement can be corrected?Specific objectives, goals
and timelines, please.
I think it is fine to get what you want when you want it, IF you work for it.
That is the caveat. You get what you want if you WORK for it. Work, work, work.
There really is no substitute for that. I also agree that gratitude is much more
absent then it should be. There is nothing wrong with wanting things, and even
wanting them quickly. Just work hard and be grateful, that would fix a lot of
I highly recommend the following read, especially those who think they DESERVE
something: "The Narcissism Epidemic: Living in the Age of
The more things change, the more they stay the same. Mr. Marshall, productivity
and hard work are virtues, but we are seeing as a nation, how those virtues
mutate in a zero-sum environment. Ms. Rand would be proud of you. You get an
"A" in ambition.
Jim, this article isn't talking about people who are working for what they get,
it's talking about people who want something for nothing, or instant
gratification addicts. Sounds like you're as bitter as the older generation
you're sticking that label to.(BTW I'm only 31 myself.)
Howard, you could not be more wrong. I see it all the time in the students I
work with, and their parents. Entitlement is rampant, and much worse now than
ever before. This article was spot on.
I am stunned at some of these comments. I thought everyone could see how much
things have changed in the last decade or two. Most seasoned teachers have seen
a serious change. Jim, for example, thinks older people are petty and jealous
instead of concerned. Jim obviously is not a student of history and doesn't know
that civilization can progress or digress according to standards of society. Even good old Confucius taught that from his studies of history, he
learned that whenever a culture lost its politeness, it was on the road to ruin.
It doesn't always happen over night, but it does happen every time.Ambition is good as long as it doesn't produce arrogance. Entitlement is just
Sorry, kid. Your job right now should be in the fast food places and mini golf
courses of the nation. Corporate slacker just isn't a position we have open
right now. Right now I need some guys to push lawnmowers, flip burgers and pick
lettuce. Lots of them. And I need people who are detail oriented with a strong
work ethic. People who see this work as opportunity, not demeaning to their
sense of entitlement. I'll do what I need to do to get the people I need. You
wouldn't do the work anyway. Stay home and sulk. Become a statistic. I don't owe
you your precious esteem.
A sticker or a piece of gum inside the treasure box? Sorry, Mrs. Greer, I doubt
this prize thrilled the kiddies even 40 years ago.
Howard,Whenever anybody ends a post with "let's get real",
I assume they do so due to a lack of persuasive argument. Trying to cajole
others into sharing your point of view with a hop on the bandwagon statement is
an attempt to narrow the conversation rather than allowing a space for real
discussion. You do introduce an interesting idea here in arguing that the
current generation is no more entitled than the last. A call for data would be
in order. I, too, have wondered whether my own sense of an increase in
entitlement is the equivalent of many parents cry that the current crop of music
is "not really music at all". Being an educator, however, I do think
that entitlement norms run higher over the last several years than they did in
the beginning of my career.
I see the sense of entitlement everyday in our public schools. Students who
think that everything should be handed to them, including passing grades for
next to no effort/work. My sons didn't like me for most of their educational
careers in high school. I taught and coached them both. Now that they are
older, in college paying for their own way, I think they have a much more health
respect for having to really put forth the effort. It wasn't easy at the time
but I knew it was the right thing to do. Parents, you can be your kid's friend
when they are older but during those first 20-25 years.....first and foremost be
the parent. They will always see you as a parent as long as you act like one
"This change in behavior is a symptom of a greater phenomenon that
psychologists, family experts, sociologists and scholars say is gripping the
world. Now, more than ever, entitlement the idea that "I should get
everything I want when I want it, even if I haven't worked for it" is
rearing its ugly head."Why is this being subtly identified with
social security? Does this not more aptly apply to the idle rich than to people
who work until they retire? Are not social security and entitlements
interchangeable terms in our society? Why?
Let me understand this. Every child going back to school should have a new
backpack, new school clothes and free lunch. What do I not understand?
We live in a society in which people in their 20's feel as if they deserve it
all; a big house, a boat, nice cars, four-wheelers, etc., without having worked
for it. What they have done is gone into massive amounts of debt for it. We have
given people the ability to buy these things when the could NOT afford them. The
impending result will be that they will be living at 40 like they should have
been living at 20. This is a direct result of the entitlement society that we
live in. We have individuals who believe that others should pay for them, we
have individuals who believe that just because they have had tough breaks in
life that others should step up and "fix" it for them, and we have
individuals who believe that they "deserve" everything that others
have. This is simply not true. On the other hand, we also have individuals who
have waited and worked, and are now being rewarded for their efforts. Not
everything turns out the way we would like it, but unless and until we start
being responsible for our own actions, our society will continue to go downhill.
Just wait until the ungrateful little kids get handed the bill to repay the
Chinese for all the money Obama is spending. That will give them a new
perspective on "entitlements!"The decay in our culture
that has destroyed the family unit, religious values and the work ethic can all
be traced to liberal policies. We are paying the price now.
Broken families are a huge contributing factor to children feeling entitlement.
Why? Divorce guilt. Some parents are entitling their children with whateve
they can because of their guilt about their children suffering due to the
divorce. This is not helping children at all. It is making it worse.
The crux of the issue is in this paragraph:"This cycle hits
working parents especially hard, says Nelson, who notes they often try to make
up for the lack of time with their children by giving them things or quickly
solving their problems."And there's the problem: Thanks to both
parents having busy careers, today's parents have more money than time. We feel
guilty about being time-poor with our kids, so we give them what we do have
(money/possessions) in an attempt to make ourselves feel better about the poor
job we're doing as parents.Want well-adjusted kids? Make sure
there's a parent home with them.
Can all be traced to liberal policies? With all due respect that has nothing to
do with liberal or conservative policies. This all starts at home with the
family and it's rules. It has nothing to do with blaming the government,
Republican or Democrat, conservative or liberal. People who want to blame the
government for everything that is bad I have to ask one question: Can you give
the government credit for anything good that it has done? I'm just saying...and
I'm just asking.
I would say the most entitled, selfish group of people are (and were) the baby
boomers. They inherited the best economy (where only one parent
worked, imagine that!)built on the backs of their depression era, world
war-winning parents, but somehow were able to create so much of our current
debt, wantonly abuse the environment without a second thought, get enormously
fat (yes I'm serious)with fat-related health problems creating the huge burden
we have on our national budget with medicare and medicaid funding, and embrace
consumerism like a religion. These boomers are the
"The age of entitlement" == "The age of Obama"
Is it me, or am I the only one who noticed the line "But the problem isn't
just in preschool classrooms; it's in homes, high schools, offices and even the
highest levels of government."Since this is a societal ill, how
can it be reversed? If those who should be in charge of the government, and
government spending feel they are entitled and feel that people are entitled to
whatever they want, how do we break the cycle?
Kids today are just no darned good!That's what I say, by golly......and that's what my dad said, and that's what grandpa Joe said, and
that's what great-grandpa Chuck said, and that's what great-great-grandpa Orson
said...They were all 100% correct!
When we enter this world we are entitled to only a few things--someone who will
love us, protect us, and provide physical necessities to help us grow. After
that we are entitled to hard work , determination, and a desire to leave the
world a better place. Nobody owes us anything and therein lies the problem.
Children have to be taught these principles by one parent/two
parents/grandparents, etc and a failure to do this results in selfish,
thoughtless, "me" adults who believe they are entitled to whatever
they want. This is true no matter the generation and perhaps many of the last
few generations of parents have traded "things" for teachings.
But selfishness is a virtue in a society based on monetary gain as a meter of
success in life.We even put God on our money.
Now the question...Is this generation of entitled adults willing to
make the necessary change in themselves in order to affect the change in the
No doubt kids these days have a terrible sense of entitlement. As a parent of
early-teens and pre-teens, I am fighting it constantly. It is everywhere - in
the TV shows they watch, in the movies they see, in their friends, and even in
adults around them. However, there is another
"entitlement" that sickens me. Every paycheck I get, over 6% of my
income goes to provide a comfortable lifestyle for a large segment of the US
population. Most likely, I will see very little, if any at all, of that money
myself for my own retirement.
To Accommodate is to be Abused.
Entitled adults exude the belief that "everything is everybody else's
fault," Hmmmm, have I heard that before?greatest generation:
"Don't curtail my benefits I'm on a fixed income" as they drive a new
motor home into a National Park for free.early baby boomers:
"Don't change my benefits, I earned them, I'm retiring soon"later baby boomers: "It's not fair you can't change benefits on me now I
earned them"Bottom line is we all need to take a cut and to
sacrifice our entitlements regardless of what we think we are owed. If we don't
sacrifice some now things will get much worse later. Our sacrifice can set an
example for and we can participate with our younger generations in sacrifice to
pay back an unmanageable debt.
It would be nice if we lived in a world where work and reward were rewarded in a
commensurate fashion. However, no such ideal exists. In some basic ways effort
equates to opportunity. Moreover, the Sad reality is, that where equally skilled
and hard working individuals co-exist in society, the brutal reality of
"Social Darwinism" is the dominant theme. Equal
distribution of wealth and success to effort is a "Utopian" ideal that
would be great. Today such ideas are unrealistic. Until we reach the desired
Ideals, greed and survival of the fittest will continue to be the dominant
theme. In today's world, the calling cards of democracy and equality are merely
seasonal niceties to placate the yearning masses. The sooner children learn to
compete and survive the better......
Entitlement generation? Who is fooling who here? It's the Baby
Boomers that are getting all the entitlements... with their low taxes, extensive
health coverage and rich retirement benefits, vast pensions so they can support
their extravagant lifestyle, all funded by a mortgage on the futures of
Generation X and Generation Y... a mortgage they're defaulting on. Thanks to
irresponsible fiscal practices, encouraged by that "I want it NOW!"
attitude, there's not going to be anything left for us younger folks by the time
old age comes for us. Generation Y is Oliver Twist, getting the last
scrapings from the pot and saying "Please sir, I want some more." ...
and some people have the nerve to tell us we're asking for too much.
runwasatchYou are right on! Todays adults of all ages from 90 to 19 would
have to make changes in their thinking and lifestyles. But as "Rocket
Science" points out, nobody want to see things change in their lives even
if there would benefits in the future. As long as "ME" and
"MY" are the most important words in our vocabulary this society and
this country things will only get worse.
Sorry people, just because we label a generation as entitled, lazy, selfish or
whatever doesn't it make it so.I will go along with my own church
leaders who said the best of the spirits are yet to come and that God has chosen
his most valiant for these times.As far as the actual people here on
Earth, with this generation I see young people that are industrious, that are
service oriented, that are tolerant of others in regards to race in ethnicity
that puts previous generations to shame. I've seen young people raise hundreds
of thousands of dollars for charitable causes. I see droves of our young people
willing to serve in the military and put themselves in harm's way all over the
globe. I see this generation inventing things, I mean after all, it wasn't some
40-something that invented Facebook.Where many of you see this or
that, I see potential. Sorry, I'm not going for this self absorbed, entitlement
thing. And where it exists, let's ask who is really to blame. Well, it isn't
these kids, it's the parents. And probably the parents of the parents had some
issues and the parents before them.
To "DeltaFoxtrot | 1:38 p.m." and lets look at who gave the Baby
Boomers their entitlements, where were shared by all retirees over the past 70+
years.Remember FDR, and all of the wonderful social welfare
programs? It sounds like the chicken has come home to roost.We know
the problem, but how do we fix it. Conservatives want to wean the public off
the teat of the government. Democrats want create more teats to suckle, and
Republicans are somewhere between Democrats and Conservatives.
Again, the world that the youth live in now was given to them by the adults
before them. They are not to blame. And did this generation invent social
security, medicare, welfare. corporate welfare, food stamps, free and reduced
lunch for students, and all other "entitlement" programs that exist
today. These go back sometimes for several generations. This generation, and
probably what we label Generation X and Generation Y, as stated so well above,
will probably have to pay lavishly for the entitlements of the Baby Boom
Generation while these things won't likely be around for them. I just love how
some Baby Boomer can call any generation entitled. This generation brought our
economy to the brink of destruction. The original "me generation"
dares to call this generation brats--it kind of makes me sick. So sorry Ricardo
and my other naysayers, "let's get real."
I've been reading Little House on the Prarie books to my kids for a couple of
years now, and I find it refreshing to see how much those young girls worked and
how little they had, yet they were happy. I tease my kids that they'll get a
scarf and a peppermint stick for Christmas. The "old" days sure were a
simpler time.I think every generation tries its best to raise good,
happy kids. But no one knows if they succeeded until it's too late. Kids need to know how to work and they need practice doing it. I see many kids
play all day in the summer. I want to raise independent kids who will move out
of the house and be something in life. They have to work and do what they are
capable of. The same should go for our govt programs. People need to
work for what they get, not just take handouts. Clean up a highway or city park.
Paint over graffiti, sweep up gravel. Do something! Nothing is really free.
Don't pass along the mindset that things are, and you won't raise another
Concerned and Involved says the 20 somethings "feel as if they deserve it
all; a big house, a boat, nice cars, four-wheelers, etc., without having worked
for it." No the 20 somethings want a job. It wasn't the 20 somethings that
crashed the economy by buying houses they couldn't afford.
Conservative Idea; you miss the point. Yes, others before us did build hospital,
roads, grow food, but there was not a time my parents didn't pay for those
things with money my Dad earned working hard. They didn't expect these things to
be handed to them without cost. They didn't believe they were entitled to
anything they did't work for and passed that idea on to 6 children who worked
their way thru college--no grants loans, etc--and who have filled productive
lives giving back to society. We have educators, doctors, leaders in their
fields in our family who got where we are because we worked hard and stood on
our own two feet and expected no handouts from anyone. The point of this article
was "entitlements and selfishness"
Family size is based on the assumption that the more kids you have the less
taxes you pay. In other words, large families feel they are entitled to paying
less taxes. I have heard so many times parents say they need more tax deductions
so let's have another kid. The intent was for the government to be sensitive to
large families but now-a-days large families take advantage of the government
which ultimately means somebody else (with less or no kids) has to pay for
somebody else's kids to go to school. I wonder how many "less kids"
some parents would have if they didn't get to deduct all of them on their taxes?
Being responsible means being sensitive to the fact that if you have 6 kids then
you shouldn't expect someone else to pay your way.
Don't even get me started on entitlement. The aging, special interests, youth,
women, teachers, unions, gays, environmentalists, and now even the ugly
(according to the NYT today) feel they are entitled to some often promised but
impossible to provide "fairness"."I want mine"
has gotten way out of control. There is only one group who dares not demand to
be treated with some special entitlement, middle aged, middle class, white
working males. In the perception of many, we got ours handed to us on a silver
platter without the least bit of effort. I clawed out of abject poverty, absent
parents, homelessness, addiction and ignorance only to find a bunch of whinny
ingates begging for society to "give" them more.Grow up,
take charge, be the solution, look after your family, neighbor, community, and
quit asking what someone else can do for you. God gave 95+% of us the tools to
be productive, and the command to personally care for those who cannot. Quit
abdicating the responsibility to others, and this can change, otherwise expect
more of the same.
I worked in child care between the years 88-96 and I so knew this was coming.
After being educated in early child development, I was disheartened to find that
the pervasive M O was to be the childs best friend and give them anything and
everything they want. This pathetic fad shortchanged many people. Not only are
they narcissistic, they have no concept of consideration for others, no idea of
the satisfaction of setting a goal and working to achieve it, all the while
wanting everything given to them because they want it. I butted heads many times
with bosses and coworkers being told that I was superstitious and unenlightened.
If believing that setting boundaries and fostering communication and social
skills is indicative of the dark agesso be it, and Jim your age is showing. .
My brother-in-law, who refuses to work a "demeaning" service job
because he is a great (if unrecognized, so far) artistic talent, thinks his
mother, and my wife and I, are "selfish" because we won't buy him a
Funny how everybody thinks that "greed" is a big problem, but no one
personally thinks he's greedy.President Obama said he thought that
at some point, you've made enough money. I agree. That point is the point
where to get one more dollar, you'd have to do it dishonestly.
How funny it is to read some who would suggest that "entitlement"
happened in the last 36 months under Obama. How twisted a view of the world is
that? Does personal honesty play anywhere with this crowd.I think
the dangers of entitlement come from both sides. There are those who feel
entitled because of the abuses their ancestors had to endure. It is not
debatable if their families were treated unfairly or unjustly. Are they
entitled to what is mine because of it. I don't think so. Are they entitled
to a helping had up, as and American I would say yes.... when it comes if the
form of equal access and support for education, equal rights to pursue any job,
or equal access to opportunity.Then there are those who feel they
are entitled to all the privileges and benefits of their freedom, and then feel
they don't have a responsibility to do for others that which was done for them
by previous generations. It is their "money". It is their right to
trash resources leaving nothing for the next generation. Their sense of
entitlement equals selfishness in the form of lack to country and community.
Could this possibly be why hard working Mexicans are taking our jobs?
I have not read the article, but I just showed this picture to my granddaughter,
whom I see once a year and has been with me for a week. I asked her what she
thought when she saw this little boy and asked if she thought people would want
to be with him or give him what he wants. She of course viewed him very
negatively and I told her that is what we have been seeing a lot of this week.
That really hit home with her and hopefully I won't see anymore folded arms and
pouting lips and scrunched face. I let her know that when she is not this way,
she is very charming and lovable. So I hope that "a picture", really
"is a 1000 words".
As I recall, Brigham Young warned that both the rich and the poor could be
guilty of covetousness. The poor were covetous of others' wealth, while the
rich were covetous of their own.An interesting thought.
I see this entitlement a lot in the church; when I joined at age 25 I was pretty
horrified that in such a family-centered religious group kids (and adults) were
so entitled. My upbringing included getting an allowance, but we had to do
chores because we were part of the family, ate the same rice as my parents and
most importantly we needed to learn about life. My parent's job was to work,
our's was to go to school and to do chores, period. I was lucky to get an
allowance and my parents let me know that. I learned to contribute and serve
because I respected myself and my home. My husband grew up with no expectations
and it has caused a lot of problems for him in life. He' working through the
entitlement trap, but it is really hard on everyone around him. I worry about a
lot of the stay-at-home moms who do everything for their children and whose
husbands never, or rarely, contribute to family chores or child rearing. These
kids are the most obnoxious ones in my primary class and often their parents are
equally as hard to manage.
It's amazing how many of you didn't even read the article. It's clear that so
many of you read the headline, then started reading the comments and have missed
the point of the article completely.Or, there are just a ton of
people who have no reading comprehension skills.I happen to agree
with the point of the article and actually enjoy the tools taught by the Fay's
through Love and Logic.Today's child is very spoiled and has no
interest in working. Today's child doesn't know how to communicate either
because of texting, IM'ing and email. They don't know how to have one on one
conversations.Easy credit cards exacerbated an issue of "I want
it now". People never learned how to save. Newlyweds believe they can have
the day after their marriage what it took their parents a lifetime to
accumulate. I don't subscribe to the pay for chores philosophy. It
creates lazy children as the article states. I see it all around me. Pay me! How
much! You OWE me!My children will never go without but they will
darn sure learn the value of money and work!
I was raised in a liberal, feminist home with working parents. My father is a
lawyer who loves and reveres women. My parents taught my sisters and I that
there are no free rides, we worked hard and all of us are academically well
accomplished and have all made great salaries to boot! I think some posters are
hinting at the idea that minorities and the working poor are liberals who just
want a free ride. I'm a minority who grew up in an inner-city and I can't think
of anyone I know who succeeded from there who isn't more diligent than the
spoiled members of the church I've met who got a free ride from their parents,
no chores and no responsibility at home because mom did it all, barely any debt
or no debt because they went to BYU and dad paid it all. Often these kids are
the ones my sister who is a university professor has the most trouble with. She
has asked me if LDS people spoil their children because she sees entitled RM
graduate students who are rude and disrespectful to her and then demand good
grades for doing poor work.
As a teacher, I see big issues with entitlement. I once had a kid who turned in
a short assignment on which he had done no work at all. When I questioned him
about this, he shrugged dismissively and asked if he could get half credit for
putting his name on his paper. Uh, no. The article notes people with the
entitlement mentality often end up financially unstable. Wonder why.
Charles... must you insult people to make your point? Perhaps this is a
conversation that evolved away from the original core topic... just
perhaps..I will say I agree with the core of what you say. My kids
have never gotten an allowance, they have jobs that are theirs around the house
that they have by virtue of being part of the family. At the same time, they
also have opportunity to earn money by doing things that we normally would pay
someone else to do if they do it themselves.But specifically to this
article, yes, there are kids that think the world revolves around them. There
always has been, and always will be. The reasons range widely, from parents who
never say no to kids who have extrememly strong personalities. My wife has
taught for years - and the kids haven't changed all that much. You have the
broad spectrum of kids and families in each school.I help coach a
team of 9/10 year old boys. I would say as a whole the kids are all hard
workers, and are decent nice kids. Perhaps it is the kind of kids who play
football - who knows.
One generations luxury is the next's necessity.
Some deprivation increased motivation.
FormerSaltlaker - lazy does not equal entitled. We have had lazy people from
the beginning of time.As to all those who want to politicize
this.... if you can show me Republicans\conservatives don't take advantage of
entitlements (Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Unemployment benefits, public
education....), then you can talk from a place of authority. But please don't
lecture the world saying that everyone else does not match up to you because you
like one animal versus another on a bumper sticker. Republicans, Democrats,
Liberals and conservatives alike use the system. Conservatives with special
needs kids take the same full advantage of the system as do so called
liberals.So lets stop the silly "i am better than you"
games and talk about issues. If all you have is name calling and chest pumping,
well then your not adding much except to inflate your own ego.There
are lazy republicans and democrats, I have both in my family. So lets just
====oh chinookdoctor: I had you pegged as the feminist BEFORE your
2nd post showed up. I even commented on it but the censors at the Dnews won't
post it.Gotta love the Mormon feminist. See the anger, envy and
coveting in your posts. Your disdain for BYU is noted.Your disdain
for the stay-at-home mother is noted.Your frustration that you
aren't a stay-at-home mother is noted.I'm not sure what is worse in
the LDS church: spoiled children or angry, envious hating feminists. Gotta love the "academically well accomplished" comment! Do you look
down on the mechanic who fixes your car, refrigerator, dishwasher or anything
else that breaks in your home? What about the contractor who built your home?
Are they stupid?It's a fact that minorities want freebies! It's not
even up for debate. They also want everyone to do everything else for them. See
the response in New Orleans when Katrina hit.How's Compton doing
with the inner-city kids? What's the graduation rate of minorities in
inner-cities? 15% 25%Yes, we get it. You hate BYU, RM's,
"spoiled LDS children" who make your primary class miserable.Got anything else?
"It's a fact that minorities want freebies! It's not even up for
debate."Yes, lets make silly blanket statements. And all the
pyramid schemes, those two are led by those dang lazy minorities.... and the
likes of Berni Madoff.... minorities too. Or stuff like
this..."Washington, D.C., March 28, 2011 The Securities and
Exchange Commission today announced that it has obtained a court order freezing
the assets of two online payday loan companies and their owner charged with
perpetrating a $47 million offering fraud and Ponzi scheme."The
dude who did this, John Scott Clark of Hyde Park, Utah - not a minority. or how aboutBret Van Leeuwen, an insurance broker who
founded Stratus, is set for a plea hearing June 1 in front of U.S. District
Judge Ricardo Urbina, court records show - the complaint - "The president
of Utah-based Status Insurance Services is facing insurance fraud charges in
Washington federal district court in a scheme that prosecutors said involved
false statements made to a regulatory agency here"The list goes
on and on.These are all people who feel they are entitled to others
money, and not minorities. Stop the silly insulting blanket
----Dear Duckie: Why do Blacks support Democrats at a rate of 90%?
What percentage of minorities are on welfare?Why do
black single women continue to have babies?What are the problems of
urban cities?You can live in denial or you can face the facts. The
information is out there if you choose to accept it.How is that War
on Poverty going?How is the free healthcare going?Don't
forget, Obama was going to pay for everyone's mortgage and put gas in our cars.
Just watch the videos on Youtube for you Dear Leader and all that people thought
he promised them.The government will provide everything for
everyone. That's the mantra of your party. Who makes up the Democratic Party?Who still supports Obama at a rate of 95%? Why? Because he will steal
from Joe the Plumber and give it to his Illegal Alien uncle and aunt!Wake up to reality!
@Charles,Wake up to your narrow and putrid view of reality?No thank you!
Hold on, so if I follow Charles logic here, predominately white communities
should therefor have little or no people on welfare... or people or unwed
pregnancies. Here in Utah valley people below the poverty level or unwed
pregnancies simply by virtue that minorities are well under represented and by
extension, problem should not exist.It is true that the poor
statistically are over represented in these cases, but if you look at the poor
as a class, regardless of race, the net result is the same. White or minority,
results are the same.Your last statement is very telling. Latest Pew Research numbers show that Obama's negative numbers grew from 42
percent to 49 percent from February 2011 to August 2011 while Republican
negative sentiment numbers increased 48 percent to 59 percent. Obama's approval
rating dropped from 49% to 43%. Republican leadership approval ratings dropped
from 43% down to 34%. So toss out your race based numbers all you
like - no matter how bad Obama is doing, the "conservatives" are doing
worse... no race bias needed.We can debate the cause of poverty, but
people in poverty behave the same, regardless of race or ethic origin.
"We can debate the cause of poverty, but people in poverty behave the same,
regardless of race or ethnic origin."Isn't it pretty to think
so?Marx was wrong. Not everything flows from economics. Culture
matters. If the traditions of your fathers are not correct (for lack of a
better phrasing), then even controlling for poverty, you will be more likely to
suffer from social pathologies like crime and illegitimacy. People in poverty
do *not* behave the same, regardless of ethnicity or culture. That's a gross
insult to honest poor people (the majority of the poor, incidentally).An example? West Virginia has one of the highest rates of poverty in the
country, a full five percentage points higher than the national average. Nearly
one person in five is poor. The place is 96% white hillbilly.Only
five states have lower crime rates. And it's not just race, either.
White Southerners are more likely to commit violent crimes (again, even
controlling for race) than white Northerners. Culture matters.
Proud Duck... I will grant you that culture absolutely matters too. White Red
neck is more likely to commit crime than a middle class white. But the point is
going back to Chucks remarks does RACE or being a minority equal being lazy and
feeling entitled.Adding your point then, is a black teen from a
middle class family just as likely to commit crimes or feel entitled as a black
teen from an impoverished family. Can you paint a singular black culture. Is a
southern black the same as a mid western black from Iowa? Which culture are you
attributing to "minorities".My best friend is married to a
man who comes from a very affluent Mexican family. Are there kids just as
likely to behave as you all brand minorites despite their social position....
because they are culturally hispanic?This broad brushing of people,
minorities, isn't anything new. Before hispanics and blacks, it was Irish,
Polish chinese and Italians... and very much minorities of their time.The single biggest indicator of someones likeliness to commit crime is their
financial condition and their education. You can find outliers to this, but as
a rule, it holds true.
ProudDuck, one more thing. Using your same example, you can also point to
Alaska, a state that has next to no minorities, and yet has the 6th highest
crime rate in the nation.And yes, as you say, Culture is absolutely
a driver there. It is the last bastion of the wild west, and with it comes the
attitudes and crime that goes along with it. But it is NOT driven by minority
status.And if you look at the profile of those arrested for crimes
in Alsaska, it isn't middle class family people, or well educated. It is those
who live blue collar lives and jobs, those on the bottom of the economic scale
in Alaska. it is the two together.I would love to see an example of
a culture where the members are high paid, well educated, and crime levels are
also high. Economic condition breeds culture.
Duck... by the way, what did Marx have to do with this? Just look at the
criminal justice systems, and the profiles of those committing crime. What do
the vast majority of people have in common with each other, particularly since
whites make more than 50 percent of those living at the states lovely
facilities. Is it their "culture"?Partially
yes, but i think if you look close enough, you will find something else about
the families they came from, and it wasn't where they were born.Look
at school performance. Take two lilly white schools from two different economic
strata, and you tell me what the corrilation to test results is.
"The thing we worry about most is the kids, because they are the ones
paying the debt," Richard Eyre said ... "They will be stuck with the
bills for our retirement, Social Security and Medicare and the national debt
we're ringing up, but on a macro level, we're worried that they're growing up in
a society where the model is 'I need to have it right now." I disagree with
Richard Eyre's statement and quote ... "Before Social Security about half
of our senior citizens lived in poverty. Today, less than 10 percent live in
poverty. The most successful program in our nation's history has not
contributed one dime to the federal deficit. It has a $2.5 trillion surplus, and
it can pay out every nickel owed to every eligible American for at least the
next 25 years, according to the Social Security Administration. A recent report
from the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office estimated that Social Security
is in even better financial shape and can pay all promised benefits until
2038" - Bernie Sanders, Senator VT. I feel this article is biased; and not
on par with spoiled children.
Change from JFK to BO:Ask not what you can do for your country, but
what your country can do for you.
I am a seasoned teacher of fourth graders. My students don't use courtesy words
like "please" and "thank you" anymore. They also tell me
what they need, rather than courteously ask for what they want. "I need a
pencil," instead of "May I have a pencil, please." Then when
they receive the pencil, there is no "thank you. To those people who still
parent, and still teach manners, hard work, and respect for others, thanks. By
the way, I do teach those things in my classroom.
@catcrazed:Students are too busy training for the big tests. Big
brother is watching the scores. Manners and learning take a back seat.
I am always very surprised by the expensive and luxurious vacaions I see young
couples, some of whom are still in school are taking. Cruises, luxury all
inclusive resorts etc. They blog about it and brag about all the room service
they ordered. These were trips we took after our kids were grown.
One young lady I know has medicare to pay for her pregnancies and yet she has
money for season tickets to Disneyland and buys expensive souvenirs there. She
is offended if she has to pay for a babysitter, expecting others to donate their
time to her. I also see older people feeling entitled. They have
housekeepers and gardeners. In public they feel others should clean up after
them and feel no guilt at throwing trash on the floor. It's disgusting
regardless of their age.
Someday the government will really be out of money and pull the plug on
handouts. Can anyone see the riots and violence?
It gets aggravating to see accusations and innuendos that the older population
(BabyBoomers mainly) are selfish and greedy and are intentionally ruining the
future for the younger generations. Apparently those critics aren’t
acknowledging that participation was not optional in those programs which the
critics now wish to cut; it was mandated by the federal government. You bet I am
entitled to Social Security, because an average of 10 percent of my life-long
earnings went into the program! Had the government not squandered that money on
first one social program after another for the non-working, non-paying segment
of the population, but had instead invested it (as it said it would), or had
allowed me to invest it, I would have had a large enough fund to not need Social
Security. So seniors such as I are entitled to the benefits which we were
guaranteed. I'm not a rich person living in luxury and what I do have took
hard work, time/patience, and saving to get....while I often see spoiled younger
generations going into deep debt simply because they want it now and then Social
Security becomes the scapegoat for their selfish greed!
Children have never had patience and have always wanted what they want without
having to wait for it.The entitled group were those in their 20's
during the inflation of the bubble. You would see 25 year old kids with huge
houses, two new SUVs with boats and ATVs. It's that entitlement that caused
the bubble to begin with.It's adults who can't live within their
means, children behaving entitled is nothing new.
I am thrilled the experts tell us we can change. Who are the experts and how are
we supposed to think? All of us in harmony with the koombayyah now. This article
was too long to even read.Seriously, can't people just use the
spirit of love and common sense. Sure we will mess up, but is there one method
that's right? These same so called experts will tell us it's possible
to change what we've already changed in ten more years (if we are still
alive after the kids take over in 2012). I think the attitudes with
kids is not because parents are all doing the same things wrong. Parents have
different approaches, methods, and tools. It's the politicians, school
board, and psychiatrists that have the protocol of specific agendas. I say they
have more to do with what's wrong with society. Or at least what is
different in society generation to generation. The powerful make the impact for
good or bad. As for me, I think the current use of capitalism is
benefiting a select few. I thank greedy profiteers in the 1950s that took
advantage of patriotism following WWII.
Observing the 60+ crowd freaking out because they have to wait in a line.
Entitled to take cuts to the front, are they? Perhaps they can't understand
the changing mindset of society. They may have been expecting the life that the
"Jetson's" presented to them in the 1960's. Many have
been unable to adjust to the increasingly faster pace of life, and to our
rainbow of ethnicity of those who will be assisting them.Some jealousy,
perhaps? Some of the older generation appear selfish, bigoted and
entitled, as well. Earlier generations were simply not prepared for life in
@no fit in SGWait in line? We already have! Lines move forward!
Those who don't move forward....stay behind. I can't speak for all of
the older generation because some of the older generations do appear selfish,
bigoted and entitled...but as with most any generation....there will always be
those that get left behind because of their own choice to NOT advance. There are
areas I'm more advanced in than people younger than me....so putting an
entire generation under under the same label is a false perception. Some day you
will be where we are....and then who are you going to blame....and who is going
to blame you? Think about it!
I find both the article and the comments at a minimum humorous. When anyone
says the youth of today seem entitled, I wonder what world they live in. They
are neither entitled or selfish. The most entitled and selfish generation
ever, and it's not even close, is the currently retired generation. And
unless something dramatic changes, the baby boom generation will become the 2nd
most selfish and entitled. The current retired generation takes social
security and Medicare money totaling more than a trillion a year, having never
put anything near that amount into the system. And they will do anything to
protect it. Never mind that they and potentially baby boomers don't care
that many future generation wil have to pay for their selfishness. Stealing
from those that Cannot vote or are as yet unborn is the height of selfishness
I was well into this article before finding the expected big lie about social
security. Too often these days when a Republican or Democrat sneers
"entitlement" he really means social security.FICA
contributors have built up a surplus of 2.4 trillions, good enough to pay a
generation of retirees at current levels with annual cola's to recompense
inflation, and with more funds still coming in, with the premium expediently
and perfidiously reduced by the government, which will simply disappoint coming
generations of their expectations. Premiums have, up to now, been
prodigious and repayments to retirees at a fair level. This is not Medicaid,
since it is currently well in the black, but government has expediently used the
funds for other purposes and issued treasury bonds to guarantee repayment. I
hope the writers have no such government bonds as it seems the writers are
suggesting introducing the unprecedented novelty of defaulting on them.