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Published: Thursday, Aug. 25 2011 9:29 p.m. MDT

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Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

I am truly looking forward to the new PAC 12 media offerings. As a person who has chosen not to have satellite or cable TV in my home, I rely on the internet for programming. With each new anouncement more and more is said about the internet offerings that are planned and that is great for people like me. I'm excited for the day when I will not be relegated to listening to football and basketball away games on the radio, simply because I choose not to buy an exhorbitant sattelite or cable package that includes a bunch of garbage I don't want.

I only wish I didn't have to wait until next year, but that is a small price to pay when I consider how limited my options would be, if we were still in the MWC.

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

Duckunter,

"...if it actually happens..." That isn't a negative comment?

I would assert that ESPN and Fox Sports Net are predominantly sports networks, so I guess you don't consider them to be major.

truthsandwich
RANDOLPH, UT

So I guess all of our games aren't going to be on Versus then?

Weird. This seems to have really upset a lot of ute-obsessed cougar "fans".

Welcome to our articles though, once again :)

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

PAC 12 "Vision" may never equal reality.

It remains to be seen just how many Utah sports events actually end up being broadcast on ESPN, FOX, and the PAC 12 networks, and just what kind of distribution the PAC 12 networks will have.

One thing BYU fans can count on is when the sports schedule says BYUtv, it'll be available in 60 million homes nationwide, FOR FREE, and in millions more homes worldwide, and will also be available via live streaming online and through numerous portable electronic devices.

BYUtv is already up and running, and hard-wired into the Marriott Center and LaVell Edwards Stadium for HD broadcasts.

The PAC 12 network is still a work in progress and will only be available by subscription.

BYU controls its own product.

Utah is at the mercy of whatever the PAC 12 network decides.

Dutchman
Murray, UT

Duckhunter,

Let me state for the record that you are correct about the bet. The way you stated it here today is exactly how it goes. Also, you have enlightened me as to BYUtv and Olympic sports with your comment. I had no idea that the WCC was working with BYUtv in broadcasting the Olympic sports for the conference. Can I assume that it will be for the entire conference or is it just for games involving BYU and WCC conference opponents? That would make a big difference.

You referred to part of my comment as "stupid". Perhaps I should have ended that comment with the letters LOL as you offen do to indicate that I am having a little "fun". The "devotional" reference was meant to be humorous. Please don't take things so serious but in the future I will try to remember to use LOL.

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

phoenix,

Sorry to burst your bubble, but nobody will get BYUtv for free. Yes, it is offered to all providers at no charge, but those providers all charge a fee to every home they serve. So every BYU fan will have to pay to see BYUtv.

Veritas Aequitas
Fruit Heights, UT

Uteology | 4:54 a.m. Aug. 26, 2011
Fort Worth, Texas
@Veritas Aequitas

As a Ute season ticket holder (right) you really like bringing up BYU on Ute articles a lot.

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You are awesome at always telling me what I have posted, so find where I have ever posted I am a season ticket holder.

I have posted I go to games at LES, and BYU (usually one or two per year), the rest I have family and friends over for food, drink, and replays (unless you are watching in the boxes.

I mean, why limit yourself to the traffic hassles every weekend.

The neat thing is I get the good free tics (I haven't paid to watch a college or HS game in 20 years at least...). I will say I think that BYU has better food in the box area than the buffet tent. Utah has great food up in the boxes.

This recent vendetta is funny if only for the weakness of your posts.

I will definately think of you as I attend games at both RES and LES this year.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@Dutchman

I sincerely apologize for my "stupid' comment, if you were simply trying to be funny then I missed it. Sorry.

@mormon ute

why do you continually take things out of context? That comment "if it happens" refered directly to my bet. "If" the pac10 network is avaiable to the required number of homes by the start of training camp next year then I lose the bet. That really isn't that hard to understand. I say "if" because it is certainly no sure thing. At this time there are no agreement with any of the sattelite providers to carry it and only a handful of regional cable companies. So yes "if it happens" is exactly right. That has nothing to do with FOX or ESPN.

Second of all, and just to burst your bubble, BYUtv is avaialbe for free and in HD over the air all across the Wasatch front. So it is with much pleasure I prove this little laugher false:

"Sorry to burst your bubble, but nobody will get BYUtv for free...So every BYU fan will have to pay to see BYUtv."

But on the bright side ute fans can watch utah for free, occasionally, on kjzz.

scenic view
Baltimore, MD

Mormon Ute

"Yes, it is offered to all providers at no charge, but those providers all charge a fee to every home they serve. So every BYU fan will have to pay to see BYUtv."

Silly argument. BYUtv is free over the air in Utah and in some areas in surrounding states.

BYUtv is on the basic tier of most cable and satelite systems that carry BYUtv, so as far as no extra charges, it is free to anybody that has cable or satelite.

That's far different from the PAC 12 network which will charge an extra, subscription fee, if it's available on a certain system. the PAC 12 network won't be available to ANYBODY over the air for free.

Estimates of the number of homes each is/will be available in:

BYUtv - 60 million
PAC 12 - 45 million

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

Now let me just say that what the pac10 is attempting to do is a very big deal. If they can take it completely to the level they seek to take it then all of the pac schools will have a wonderful amount of exposure and fans will have alot of access to them. That is great.

But it is not unprecedented, in fact all they are trying to do is exactly what BYU has already done all by themselves. BYU already has a national deal with ESPN and will appear on that network more than any other school. BYU will have more nationally televised games than any other team this season.

BYU already has it's own network, they do not need an additional regional one because theirs is dedicated to them and is national. BYU also has already set up all of the online and mobile device streaming. It is in place and ready to go.

So yes the pac's vision is big and bold but BYU already has all of that on their own. That means fans in this state are going to be well served with access to their favorite school.

Congratulations. Sincerely.

1984 for life
Salt Lake City, UT

@ Duckhunter | 3:08 p.m. Aug. 26, 2011
Highland, UT

With this endorsement, Larry Scott and the Ute nation can now go forward.

Thank you.

Veritas Aequitas
Fruit Heights, UT

1984 for life | 3:31 p.m. Aug. 26, 2011
Salt Lake City, UT
@ Duckhunter | 3:08 p.m. Aug. 26, 2011
Highland, UT

With this endorsement, Larry Scott and the Ute nation can now go forward.
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And it is about time. I thought PAC-12 would allow Ute fans to move forward, but if all it took was Duckhunter's endorsement, then I am estatic.

I have said it before, and will say it again.

People in the state of Utah, are finally (after the mtn, and MWC) ready to watch some great athletics. We are going from being starved, to a feast!

I do not know of a place in the world that has the population of the Wasatch Front that has been given such a drastic change and opportunity for college sports as we lucky fans.

I hope Larry Scott pulls it off for the U. He has disappointed me so far, but if he comes through, I will personally nominate both Larry Scott and Tom Holmoe for co-winners of my personal "Man of the Decade" award!

Uteology
Fort Worth, Texas

@Veritas Aequitas

The point was why were you the first one to bring up BYU when the story had nothing to do with them (aka off topic). As a neutral fan, why take a dig at Utah having "BYU['s] dream"?

@scenic view | 3:02 p.m. Aug. 26, 2011
BYUtv - 60 million
PAC 12 - 45 million

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Correct me if I am wrong but that is supply not demand. I believe PAC-12 teams get $10 million a year form the PAC-12 network, which should give you an idea of the networks demand.

Now, what is the demand for BYUtv? Giving it away free? Would the explain why more carriers picked up the channel? No idea how cable networks pick up channels so I could be wrong.

Veritas Aequitas
Fruit Heights, UT

Uteology | 4:53 p.m. Aug.
Fort Worth, Texas

@Veritas Aequitas

The point was why were you the first one to bring up BYU when the story had nothing to do with them (aka off topic). As a neutral fan, why take a dig at Utah having "BYU['s] dream"?
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Because I could.

Taking you at your sord, why wasn't that the point you made, instead of making stuff up...

Oh, I forgot.

You are Uteology.

Uteology does not connect unless the stuff is made up.

Sorry, it was a humorous dig at the fact that even in the minds of hater kids like yours best-case-scenario it will never be what you strive so much for...

A program like the team down south has.

Personally, I though the comment on a story about "abundant content, availability" to be very much on topic (which again seems to be beyond your grasp).

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On the topic of TV stories.

My Crimson Club brother told me that Urban Meyer is going to do the color commentary for the BYU Utah game, and is required to say BYU, for the first time publically (serious, not a joke).

Can anyone verify?

Veritas Aequitas
Fruit Heights, UT

Uteology | 4:53 p.m. Aug. 26, 2011
Fort Worth, Texas

Would the explain why more carriers picked up the channel? No idea how cable networks pick up channels so I could be wrong.
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You don't have to go "Old English" on me.

No need to call me "the". Asking "would you" is fine.

I do not know why more carriers picked it up.

It was in an article a few days ago.

Thee might google it if thou wants.

Swoop
Salt Lake City, UT

Uteology

BYUtv is already available in 60 million homes.

The PAC 12 network has only ESTIMATED to be available in 45 million homes...

and that's only for the main network.

The regional channels will have much, much smaller distribution. If you're a Utah fan living in California, good luck trying to watch your team on the Utah/Colorado regional PAC 12 channel.

As usual, Utah fans are obsessed with money over exposure.

BYU fans nationwide just want to have access to BYU sports. They couldn't care less how much money BYU receives from BYUtv.

In BYU's first year of independence, BYU fans anywhere in the country will be able to watch every BYU football game in HD, either on ESPN, or through a myriad of feeds through BYUtv.

Can U honestly say the same thing about Utah fans in Utah's first year in a BCS conference?

sammyg
Springville, UT

I love the TV smack. Please tell me tv fans how every game is going to be on national tv when every article on this topic states that a regional network for Utah and Colorado is being created.

If every game is on national tv, FOX, ESPN, PAC Network then why the need for a regional Pac network? Just for women's gymnastics?

I'm willing to bet the farm that some of the Ute football games will not have national tv exposure, just regional only. Prove me wrong and I'll shut up on the topic.

Carson
Provo, UT

Poor Sammyg and his little buddy Duckie. The whole Pac 12 move has driven them crazy with jealousy.

sammyg
Springville, UT

@ Carson

That's all you can think of? In fact it's the most popular and abused response to any comment on a Ute story... you're just jealous.

Could you please explain to me what I'm jealous about? I'm dying to know.

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