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  • ExAFvet Lindon, UT
    Aug. 26, 2011 2:51 a.m.

    This might actually be a fun game to watch. I am hoping for a shoot out. I haven't watched Houston since Andre Ware and Dave Klingler QB there. I will have to go find some Houston highlights on YouTube to see if they are still an entertaining team to watch.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 25, 2011 3:16 p.m.

    1Infidel:

    "Prove 'fraudulent' in the case of the bloggers."

    The blogger in the article I referenced claimed that Penn St, Ohio St, Wisconsin, and Nebraska were "done deal(s)"....and they WEREN'T! If they weren't "done deal(s)", how did the blogger get that information?

    He made it up.

    "Show me a school or community with an optimistic attitude that doesn't have people who get carried away with rumors."

    How about Utah? We've never released details of us fraudulently scheduling teams like PSU, Ohio St, Wisc, or Neb. We've also never produced any "Quest" T-shirts in the preseason, threw Tostitos tortillas on our field during the first home game of the season, no ever boasted of engaging in "secret talks" with the Pac-10 for admission. All our Utah-to-the-Pac-10 comments were aboveboard and widely reported by the media.

    "You are just sour, and looking to poke someone in the eye over their getting hyped."

    What do I have to be sour about? We're not the ones who were exposed as frauds by claiming to have scheduled PSU, Ohio St, Wisc, or Neb. It is the Y who are sporting all the sourpusses.

  • 1Infidel APO, AE
    Aug. 25, 2011 11:33 a.m.

    @NavalVet -

    Prove "fraudulent" in the case of the bloggers. Mistaken, over-zealous, anticipatory, hopeful, mislead - they don't qualify as fraud. Did they cause your wee black heart some distress? Take it to court, dude.

    Show me a school or community with an optimistic attitude that doesn't have people who get carried away with rumors.

    You can't prove or provide in either case.

    You are just sour, and looking to poke someone in the eye over their getting hyped. A pretty negative outlook and sad life for someone to have to go looking on an adversary's fan site to shoot spitwads. Stick to your Tribune and enjoy reading up in Monday's papers about the (late) games your PAC-12 won't be getting onto East Coast networks.

    DN staff - What happened to the 4-post per account per thread? Explain?

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 25, 2011 10:46 a.m.

    1Infidel:

    "What advantage is there for the four you keep mentioning, PSU, Wisconsin, Nebraska and whoever, to schedule BYU? If they win, everyone will say it was a meaningless win. If they lose, they lose big-time. Scheduling is a two-way street, and...folks don't want to schedule BYU and run into a buzzsaw. It does them no good."

    I think you've missed the point. My post wasn't about why big name teams won't schedule the Y. It was about Y bloggers fraudulently claiming those teams already had, and about Y fans arrogantly [and ignorantly] boasting about it afterward.

    "...you are just chiming in to be argumentative and trashing BYU fan's enthusiasm - not really any valid points yet, huh?"...and schools in the BCS do have the openings...but I bet you will change your name or disappear by then."

    What a frantic, emotional, and entirely baseless prediction. I've been "Naval Vet" [or "Naval_Vet" on the SLTrib] ever since these comment forums started up [2006]. If I hadn't changed my name before, why would I do so later?

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Aug. 24, 2011 11:13 p.m.

    flynn is the coolest | 11:34 p.m. Aug. 23, 2011
    Salt Lake City, UT
    NightOwlAmerica | 9:36 p.m. Aug. 23, 2011
    SALEM, OR

    ""I crack up reading posts by mgr63 and Bluto. They are lucid, stale, wishful thinking and dreamy. Such is the life of a BYU fan.
    I will Match your national title hopes with a case of green jello. At least that has substance to it."

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but none of the posters you cited are BYU fans-they're Ute trolls and you can keep them. Did you really want to talk smack about fans?"

    You might want to read my post again. Its not hard to tell who posters are here. There are BYU fans here that actually post like the avatars I mentioned.

  • GoGetter Sandy, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 6:51 p.m.

    Naval Vet, I totally agree with you.

    It seems like scheduling has become a little more difficult for BYU than they imagined. I would think that being a first year Independent, you really can't expect too much as far as scheduling goes. This should be the year for them to schedule across the country and spread their name. However, can a team really spread their name geographically? I think not, it comes with big wins over big teams, and that is when people begin to talk about your school. Surely BYU can get a fan base in whichever city they play in, but that is not really "expanding" the program, is it? If only the local LDS members are in attendance?

    Best of luck to BYU, though! This season is for the taking, even though it will be very tough for them.

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 4:22 p.m.

    At BYU Dud:

    "Houston,= Utah's Football tradition over the last 20 Years. Two Great seasons does not a program make."

    I didn't realize that Houston had gone to two BCS games and won both of them. I didn't realize that Houston was invited to a BCS conference. I didn't realize that Houston has been to 14 bowl games in the last 20 years and won 10 of them.

    Houston must be wonderful!

    The season ticket holders must slapping high fives over this one. It's kind of a big deal.

  • SLC BYU Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 3:43 p.m.

    The lack of conference stability and continued likely shifts (particularly involving the Big 12) is what is making this a difficult business for Holmoe and Mendenhall. Yes, they have spelled out goals, but it appears they are only firming up dates with teams they can shuffle the dates on, opt out at low or little cost since (there is a fee clause in an OOC contract when a game is moved to a different year or series cancelled) BYU is still part of the conference puzzle despite the denails of Ute fans who want the progrm in Provo to go the way of Rexburg, and could very well end up in the Big 12 when the dust finally settles.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Aug. 24, 2011 3:21 p.m.

    Houston is good pickup, CUSA over WAC any day.

    @BYU DUDE: "Houston,= Utah's Football tradition over the last 20 Years. Two Great seasons does not a program make."

    Yet you're still wearing that "Jimmermania" t-shirt with only 2 Sweet 16's in 30 years? Go figure.

  • BYU DUDE Provo, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 2:08 p.m.

    Houston,= Utah's Football tradition over the last 20 Years.

    Two Great seasons does not a program make.

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 1:46 p.m.

    Great get. Just a great, great get. Of all the gets they could have got at, this was maybe one of the greatest gets in the history of gets. Get.

  • TXBYUFAN Spring, TX
    Aug. 24, 2011 12:37 p.m.

    Let me clarify - not ALL Ute fans are pathetic. I know quite a few that are just fine. I mean those Ute fans who seem to get their only joy in life by making negative comments about BYU on articles about BYU.

  • Papa Smurf UTE Herriman, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 9:53 a.m.

    Anytime Starfairy, anytime. Not once have I said that I am the authority on all things BYU, and I usually try to compliment them in some way o these boards. I am not like Chris B, Mildred, or other UTE trolls that bash on all things bYu. Veritas, and Y Grad Y Dad are probably the only reasonable Y fans on these boards, but I am glad that I could make you day.

  • JonnyDanger HOUSTON, TX
    Aug. 24, 2011 9:01 a.m.

    Houston was ranked in the top 15 as recently as 2009. They have finished the season ranked in the top 25 15 times, have a Heisman winner and several other national awards.

    The reason Houston is a great pick-up is because of national perception. Houston isn't a win that will get you nothing (like most of the WAC teams, etc, on tab this year), but neither are they a win that will shock and awe. They are a great mid-level competitor and they may have another good season this year. Filler games are fine and at times necessary, but this is a good indication that the middle of the schedule is picking up. As was stated previously all that really matters is winning a few of the big games, not getting upset in the middle games and taking care of business in the filler games to pad the win column.

  • Central Texan Buda, TX
    Aug. 24, 2011 8:09 a.m.

    I was at that rain-soaked Rice game. BYU fans remember the U. of Houston from the days when Klingler and others were putting up huge numbers back in the Detmer era.

  • Starfarer Mesa, AZ
    Aug. 24, 2011 7:42 a.m.

    BlueNtheFace

    There are so many holes in your statement that I won't even comment, but to say this.

    If you are all that you say you are...

    Why come to a BYU board to prove it?

    No worries? Keep dreaming.

    All athletes are BCS caliber...

    not credible.

    Strict academic criteria...

    so that is what they are calling religious bigotry in the PAC 12?

    If you are so great, prove it.

    Don;t come to BYU and talk smack looking for a fight.

  • 1Infidel APO, AE
    Aug. 24, 2011 5:01 a.m.

    @Naval Vet
    What advantage is there for the four you keep mentioning, PSU, Wisconsin, Nebraska and whoever, to schedule BYU? If they win, everyone will say it was a meaningless win. If they lose, they lose big-time. Scheduling is a two-way street, and has always been the case, folks don't want to schedule BYU and run into a buzzsaw. It does them no good.
    Once BYU does work into more BCS games, beating BYU would be a more attractive option, and less of a downer if they lose. I can see you are not a BCS school's AD, or you wouldn't be so full of smack.
    Hang around, and come back when schedules do open up (those schools are all likely scheduled for x years already, so you are just chiming in to be argumentative and trashing BYU fan's enthusiasm - not really any valid points yet, huh?) and schools in the BCS do have the openings, and see the money, the exposure and the challenge worth it....but I bet you will change your name or disappear by then. All good things take time. Have fun cheering for the soon-to-be-exposed and likely perennial mediocre Utes.

  • BlueNtheFace Rancho Cucamonga, CA
    Aug. 24, 2011 1:55 a.m.

    Utah plays 10 quality BCS games this year! They have a very good chance of winning them all plus all of their OOC games. What does that mean, Cougar fans?? A National Championship Game. That's what! We are the University of Utah PAC-12's.

    All of our athletes are BCS caliber and have shots making NFL rosters now. We have no worries as we enter the new PAC-12 era. It's all good. You're just jealous that BYU couldn't meet the strict athletic and academic criteria that the PAC-12 required for invitation into their conference. Eat our red dust!!

    Go Utes!

  • riddlemethis Clearfield, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 11:35 p.m.

    Nightowlamerica:

    Neener Neener? Nice. The reason your posts are silly is because you can't figure out that mgr 63 is one of you. For as much time as you both spend on BYU articles, you should have that one figured out.

  • News For U Sandy, Utah
    Aug. 23, 2011 11:34 p.m.

    @ Just the FAX

    "Wasn't Utah DESTROYED by the last NON-bcs conference team they played?"

    Wasn't byu DESTROYED by the last WAC team they played?

  • flynn is the coolest Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 11:34 p.m.

    NightOwlAmerica | 9:36 p.m. Aug. 23, 2011
    SALEM, OR

    "I crack up reading posts by mgr63 and Bluto. They are lucid, stale, wishful thinking and dreamy. Such is the life of a BYU fan.
    I will Match your national title hopes with a case of green jello. At least that has substance to it."

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but none of the posters you cited are BYU fans-they're Ute trolls and you can keep them. Did you really want to talk smack about fans?

    Incidentally, 2-3 years ago Utah fans were livid at not getting respect in the polls, people mocking their strength of schedule, and the BCS in general. They suddenly gain admission to the club and join in the disrespect. Maybe all those fabulous researcher on the hill could search for the cure to hypocrisy.

  • joecoog North Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 23, 2011 11:16 p.m.

    Give me some examples nightowl. you named ute trolls so far. Almost all of the byu comments here are responding to ute trolls making silly comments like saying byu's schedule is very weak. I can make the same argumet for utah's schedule. Look at the overall record of their opponets from last year. Losing record by a lot. Their last six opponents to end this next season are coming off losing seasons. Byu has 4 teams with double digit wins last year. Utah has none. Byu has 2 teams in top 25. Utah has none.
    Next time you comment I dare you to actually use fact like i did instead of ridiculous claims.

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    Aug. 23, 2011 11:13 p.m.

    navel vet

    "Utah will play a MINIMUM of 10 teams from BCS conferences in a single year. Remind me again how many the Y plays."

    Wasn't Utah DESTROYED by the last NON-bcs conference team they played?

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Aug. 23, 2011 10:57 p.m.

    Neener neener.

  • riddlemethis Clearfield, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 10:45 p.m.

    NightOwlAmerica:

    No, but yours are.

  • Ldsfan South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 10:45 p.m.

    This is so exciting. Wow, wow and wow! I can't believe a home and home game with such a prestigious program. Did my pulse quicken?

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Aug. 23, 2011 10:30 p.m.

    Aren't all BYU comments silly?

  • riddlemethis Clearfield, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 10:24 p.m.

    One Nil to the Arsenal! | 9:07 p.m. Aug. 23, 2011
    Gilbert, AZ
    Houston has a football team?

    Yeah, actually they do. Kind of like San Diego, SW Baptist and Seattle U all have basketball teams, even though it took Utah losing to them for most people to realize it.

  • joecoog North Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 23, 2011 10:23 p.m.

    Naval vet,
    It is true that byu's bottom half of the schedule is weak but who cares about the bottom half? That is not what will define their season. It is the top half that will, which byu's is arguably better than the utes. How many of the utes opponents are currently in the top 25? Thats, right none. byu has 2.
    See how byu's top opponents compare to the utes:
    tcu > usc
    texas > pitt
    The next four or so opponents are about equal and then the utes have the edge for the last 6 but once again who cares if byu beat up san jose which is probably ranked abou 120th or utah beats up wash st. who is probably around 100th? Nobody. They care how you handle your top to middle teams.

  • joecoog North Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 23, 2011 9:57 p.m.

    Nightowl,
    Your new here so we will let that one slide but for future reference mgr63 and mildred are ute fans and their only post are over the top ridiculous ones to make byu fans look silly.

  • Madden Herriman, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 9:55 p.m.

    @NightOwl - seriously, you haven't figured out that those are trolls, not actual BYU fans? Kind of hurts your superiority complex, eh? They post ridiculously dumb comments posing as Y fans on every article the DNews puts out.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 9:53 p.m.

    Looking at the amount of posts on each article leaves no doubt which local teams will be watched on TV in the state, let alone nationally.

    Look at the excitement from fans of both schools for the Houston series.

    Sort of makes it difficult to argue which brand of football people in Utah and across the country like to watch.

    No TV smack. It's just that one team grabs peoples attention and insures ratings.

    If Utah got a fraction of this amount of attention even locally, you could bet that the PAC-12 would have them on TV every week.

    The fact is most Utah fans have never watched Utah play. (Sports fans from Utah watch football play). They always seem to get excited for "who" Utah will play. But all Utahns, love em or hate em, watch BYU.

    Face it, BYU would not have the brand without the "Utah" fans.

    Thanks, OneNilArsenal, NavalVet, HonorCode, Uteology, magnaUteFan, Chewbaca,CaliforniaUte, ChrisB, Hedge, MildredFilmore, PapaSmurfUte, RockoftheMarne, crowntown, Redlands, Philadelphia, Ft. Worth, Corona, Beverly Hills, etc. for proving ESPN and VS. both right (National Following vs."ehh").

    Thanks to you, BYU fans across the nation will see all games in HD.

  • smart_aleck VANCOUVER, WA
    Aug. 23, 2011 9:41 p.m.

    It's great that BYU has added Houston to the schedule. The Cougars are looking to play teams in cities they haven't visited for a while and this is a great opportunity for the BYU fans in Houston. It will also generate interest in the BYU brand in an area rich with football talent.

    For those looking for the big name schools, be patient. Please remember that scheduling is a difficult task because the target is always moving. Other teams are scheduling their future opponents at the same time BYU is. You want to keep at least six home games, and provide a balance a top level and mid-level teams (red, yellow and green I think one previous article mentioned). Many top tier teams may have already expressed interest, but finding the right place for them on the schedule is another matter. It's fun to watch the future schedules fill out, especially when BYU is going to new places and playing new teams.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Aug. 23, 2011 9:36 p.m.

    I crack up reading posts by mgr63 and Bluto. They are lucid, stale, wishful thinking and dreamy. Such is the life of a BYU fan.
    I will Match your national title hopes with a case of green jello. At least that has substance to it.

  • CougarOnTheProwl Murray, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 9:30 p.m.

    More good exposure in Texas where there are some good recruits and Houston is a solid opponent, keep them coming Tom!

  • One Nil to the Arsenal! Gilbert, AZ
    Aug. 23, 2011 9:07 p.m.

    Houston has a football team?

  • Honor Code Denver, Colorado
    Aug. 23, 2011 9:04 p.m.

    I can't wait for the WAC games in LES.........BYU will kick their tails!

  • norseman773 STERLING, KS
    Aug. 23, 2011 8:38 p.m.

    I've watched with great anticipation to see BYU develop their coming football schedule. Houston's ok but I'd still like to see them get someone from the Big 10 or back East like Boston College or Syracuse. I hope they'll come back to Oklahoma or Kansas so I can see them play in person. Right now I'm just excited that I can now watch so many of their games on ESPN while living in Kansas. Go Cougars!

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    Aug. 23, 2011 8:30 p.m.

    navel vet

    "Utah will play a MINIMUM of 10 teams from BCS conferences in a single year. Remind me again how many the Y plays."

    Wasn't Utah DESTROYED by the last NON-bcs conference team they played?

  • Independence Is Bliss San Jose, CA
    Aug. 23, 2011 8:19 p.m.

    Man if only we could schedule some "BCS" teams. It would be sweet if we could play Baylor, Washington St, Vanderbilt, Purdue, Kentucky, Duke, Syracuse, Iowa St, Kansas, Colorado, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota. . .

    . . . do you want me to keep going? Let's take a national poll to see if those are respected football schools.

    It seems when it comes to national respect, it's who you are, not who you're with.

    Interesting.

  • JonnyDanger HOUSTON, TX
    Aug. 23, 2011 8:11 p.m.

    Rational: While what you said is true, that wasn't my point. It probably got lost in the drivel...

    The higher ups DO care about winning and losing, but the reason they pulled the trigger on this independence gig wasn't to get one step closer to a NC. It wasn't to bust the BCS or to play catch-up to the team up North. The reason BYU is Independent is indeed all about exposure. Some people comment on here as if BYU's situation is horrible. Really most of those comments are people trying to say that their team's situation is "better". BYU is in a better place than they were a year ago, and they will be in still a better place in five years. But that isn't what is driving this crazy train. 10 games on ESPN in the first year is indication that the goal of exposure is being met and exceeded. Hopefully the rest will follow suit.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 8:02 p.m.

    Bluto | 7:42 p.m. Aug. 23, 2011
    Sandy, UT
    @NavalVet

    That broken record you keep playing is uh, well, broken.
    So some discipline. Do you really think anyone wants your tireless posts 10-15-20 times on every BYU article?

    Give it a rest. Last we looked, BYU is the one with National TV appearances (Exposure) and Utah is not? Hmmmm, how is that?

    Does your obsession with BYU ever end?
    This is an article about BYU and their football schedule,.

    What are you so afraid of?

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 7:44 p.m.

    correction

    "Show some discipline".

  • AK Cougar Palmer, AK
    Aug. 23, 2011 7:30 p.m.

    Great get for BYU schedule. Keep up the good work Tom. Fan look forward to seeing more of these announcements on the remaining 25% of the schedule.

    From the posts above I think a few have changed their name to hide their identity.

    Go Cougars. Sept. 3 is coming.

  • mgr63 DALLAS, TX
    Aug. 23, 2011 6:39 p.m.

    All the BYU haters are forgetting how well fall camp is going. Jake Heaps will win the NC this year. He is that good. Also, the BYU defense is maybe the best in the nation this year. Hopefully BYU will get into the NC game.......it looks like it will happen. Go Cougars

  • Old Daw BOISE, ID
    Aug. 23, 2011 6:28 p.m.

    Does BYU not realize they already have a commitment to play Boise State on 09-27-14?

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 6:27 p.m.

    Danger, if you think the competitive fires don't burn at the highest levels of BYU's hierarchy, you are mistaken. Winning may not be first, but that doesn't mean it isn't valued. Elder Wirthlin, who passed a year or two ago, played football at the U. I remember seeing pictures of President Kimball in his basketball uniform. Excellence is a value at the top. That is how people get to the top. You think Jesus was a slacker?

  • defibman Syracuse, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 6:26 p.m.

    I was going to comment on Navel Vet's response to my post, but I see that most everyone else has beat me to it. Sometimes, people just don't get it. You can say all you want about "BCS" schools. Using that logic, when BYU beats u, then that would mean that BYU is better than any BCS team.

    Smack talk using little reason just leaves you looking small minded and makes you change your display name when the season is just half over.

  • mgr63 DALLAS, TX
    Aug. 23, 2011 6:22 p.m.

    BYU will win all their games. Hey Ute fans.....it could get VERY ugly on 9-17-11. GO Cougars!

  • JonnyDanger HOUSTON, TX
    Aug. 23, 2011 6:04 p.m.

    Remember why BYU went independent? Exposure. The BYU brass will not be put out if BYU never cracks the top ten, never makes the BCS, never wins another (!) national championship. The fans will care, the team will care, but those who made the decision to go independent are happy that now the BYU fans in SouthEast Texas have a BYU game to go to, a game that fans across the country and world can watch, and a game that will build our exposure. And quite frankly (since I live in Houston) I am very happy with that.

    What BYU haters don't understand is that even if all of their wildest dreams come true and BYU can never schedule better than they do currently, the TV games never get better, keep scheduling WAC teams, etc, we STILL love our school and fans all over the country will continue to support the team. Utah doesn't have that luxury. Their non-alum fans are only fans so long as the team is pushing the envelope. I hope BYU wins it all, schedules all the great school and pushes themselves onto the national stage. But if not...I go to the Houston game

  • anti BCS Anaheim, CA
    Aug. 23, 2011 6:01 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    BYU's schedule is so totally awesome, that 10 games have already been scheduled for national broadcasts on ESPN this season.

    Utah's schedule is so totally boring, that the only game ESPN would schedule was Utah's game at BYU.

    Why?

    Here's a hint:

    The most important factor in BYU's 10 ESPN games - it's BYU football!
    (even against Idaho)

    The most important factor in Utah's single ESPN game - it's Utah football!
    (even against USC)

    Good luck seeing any Utah games in Philadelphia, PA.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 5:53 p.m.

    @independent

    Exactly right. Thank you for making my point. No one can claim to play 10 good teams but naval lint was trying to insinuate that utah is going to when they demonstrably aren't. Just playing 10 bcs teams means nothing as there are plenty of pretty crappy bcs teams and utah gets to play their fair share of them.

  • Independent Henderson, NV
    Aug. 23, 2011 5:53 p.m.

    "The problem with scheduling the big dogs is that they rarely want to play another big dog that they feel might beat them."

    You're right, and an examination of the schedules of the big dogs will reveal that most of them only play another couple of big dogs in any given season. At most they'll only play another 4 big dogs or so.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 5:35 p.m.

    The Houston series is a nice pick up. They play in bowls most years, are at or near the top of their conference and have had respectable records for awhile. I would have been happy with such an opponent before BYU went independent. I am certainly happy now to have them on the schedule.

    The problem with scheduling the big dogs is that they rarely want to play another big dog that they feel might beat them. It will be tough to get series or even one and done games. Its too big of a risk for a team like Ohio State to dare play the cougars.

  • UtahBronco Lehi, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 5:35 p.m.

    Cougar Bowl?

  • AltaHawkFan Sandy, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 5:26 p.m.

    re: Naval Vet

    Enjoy your schedule smack while you can. Once utah starts losing those games and occasionally missing bowl games, you'll be begging for a reasonable schedule. Crow while you can. Your fun will come to a screeching halt in a few weeks.

  • Starfarer Mesa, AZ
    Aug. 23, 2011 5:21 p.m.

    Papa Smurf UTE

    Well, since you said it, it must be true.

    We all know that you are the authority on what BYU will do. After all, what has happened in the past will ALWAYS happen in the future.

    Glad you threw in your two cents...

    and you think I am a tool?

  • Independent Henderson, NV
    Aug. 23, 2011 5:21 p.m.

    "So claiming "we'll play 10 bcs teams" isn't really much of a claim. When you can say "we'll play 10 good teams" then you will be saying something."

    Who can even say that?

    For example, this season Ohio State plays the likes of Akron, Toledo, Colorado Illinois, Indiana, and Purdue. They do play Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Penn State, but this is certainly not 10 good teams.

    Even Florida, who is in supposedly the best conference around, the SEC, plays Florida Atlantic, UAB, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and Furman. Has anybody even heard of Furman? They play some good teams too, but certainly not 10 of them.

  • Papa Smurf UTE Herriman, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 5:03 p.m.

    Mildred, Starfarer, and Uncle Rico are all tools. bYu will have some good schedues in the future, but the glory years of the 80's and early early 90's are not coming back. There isnt going to be anymore NC, or Heisman winners coming out of Provo. There is a slight chance of a BCS bowl, but with the way Bronco's teams start seasons (other than 2008 when they only played cupcakes to start the year) they lose at least 1, usually 2 games that could have been won to start the year. I dont see this year, or any other year as being any different, as long as BM in the coach. Unless there are cupcakes like 08 to start the season, and then you will most likely have a tough game like TCU or UTAH later in the year that you will get beat, and beat bad. I think that Independence was the best thing for the Y, their schedules will get better, and I think that they will do quite well. Just not NC, or BCS well.

  • JayDee West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 4:58 p.m.

    The irony is that all of the anti-BYU trolls out hating on schedules years down the road will end up watching more BYU than U games this year (not necessarily because they want to, but because they can't resist the Y games and can't find the U games).

    Bring on Ole Miss! Go Cougars!

  • Bigred1 SAN DIEGO, CA
    Aug. 23, 2011 4:55 p.m.

    Naval Vet, You're blowing this home and home with houston way out of proportion. Your first post was actually semi thought provoking, but you peetered out. You're just blowing a bunch of hot air at this point. And washington state is also going to play 10 BCS teams...what does that prove? Are you trying to say you want the U to be (or already are) the next washington state?

  • Starfarer Mesa, AZ
    Aug. 23, 2011 4:39 p.m.

    mgr63

    Mildred is better at that than you.

  • Uncle Rico Utah, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 4:38 p.m.

    Back in '82 we used to play these type of teams all the time.

    I'm lovin it! We knew we couldn't hang with Boise in the MWC, we're going back to our glory days of playing cellar dwellars.

    Independence was the greatest thing to happen to us. We'll be having some good records with these type of teams on our schedule all the time.

    The 80s were our glory days and the future looks similar. Time to relive the glory days of BYU football!!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 4:37 p.m.

    @naval lint

    But not all "bcs" games are created equally. For instance utah plays washington st, colorado, ucla, and cal, all of which are pretty pathetic teams.

    Also a top team like usc has to play washinton st, ucla, cal, colorado and utah. Once again those are all "bcs" teams but they are also pretty poor and will all get worked by usc.

    So claiming "we'll play 10 bcs teams" isn't really much of a claim. When you can say "we'll play 10 good teams" then you will be saying something.

  • runnerguy50 Virginia Beach, Va
    Aug. 23, 2011 4:37 p.m.

    Houston is a no win situation for BYU. If you win the reaction will be well you should have, if you lose the fans will be in a uproar. Teams like Houston are dangerous. Houston reminds me of East Carolina back east, ECU beats Virginia Tech and the Carolina schools, yet fans of the famous schools look down on ECU. Houston will be dangerous for the Cougs.

  • mgr63 DALLAS, TX
    Aug. 23, 2011 4:35 p.m.

    Everything for BYU is shaping up perfectly. They are booking top-notch programs and they'll win for sure. The NC is imminent, soon.......you watch! Go BYU!!!!!

  • mgr63 DALLAS, TX
    Aug. 23, 2011 4:29 p.m.

    WOW!!!!! Thjs is great news! UH is an unreal program and I bet that BYU beats them terribly. I think that BYU will be in the NC equation after they beat Ole Miss, UT and Utah to start off this season. Their ranking will get them a BCS bowl and then the cougars will destroy them. I think BYU will show everyone that they are that good. They will win every game and will get their well-deserved title again. GO COUGARS!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 23, 2011 4:25 p.m.

    defibman:

    Utah will play a MINIMUM of 10 teams from BCS conferences in a single year. Remind me again how many the Y plays.

    And for the record, your FCS opponent [Idaho St.] won only ONE game last year. And that was vs. an NAIA team. Weak SOS.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Aug. 23, 2011 4:23 p.m.

    Naval Vet:

    Were you neglected as a child, or are you just generally starving for attention?

  • Black&Blue Hillsboro, Oregon
    Aug. 23, 2011 4:18 p.m.

    Naval Vet,

    "We are close to three quarters of the way done scheduling all the way up through 2014." -Tom Holmoe

    So what AD Holmoe was saying is that the schedule through 2014 is 75% finished. Which is an incredible feat considering BYU has only been Independent for just over a year now. Especially when top programs BYU wants to schedule have schedules laid out years in advance. And are only allowed to have 3-4 Non-conference games per season.

    For example, Penn State has only one game opening (9/20/14) in the next 5 years.

    BYU still has plenty of slots to fill. 4 in 2013, 5 in 2014, and 9 in 2015.

    But even then, its looking like for the next 3-5 years, BYU will be facing a watered down schedule. It's definitely better than I expected, with a 3 game series with Texas, a six game series with Notre Dame, along with matches against Utah, Boise St, Georgia Tech, and West Virginia. Hawaii, UCF, Houston and Southern Miss are not too bad either.

    I believe better scheduling will come, with a couple good seasons and some legitimate exposure. Time will tell.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Aug. 23, 2011 4:18 p.m.

    We knew we would have to fill four or five games with WAC weaklings to make the 2011 and 2012 schedule work.

    But the 2013 schedule is starting to take shape with confirmed games against Texas, Hawaii, Boise State, Georgia Tech, Utah State, Houston and Notre Dame. I'm sure Utah will be added to the list, when we agree on a date. (There are two Sept dates still available.)

    Texas, Boise State, Georgia Tech and probably Utah will be in Provo - good games for the home crowd.

    I know the total schedule depends on who fills the remaining four spots, but this is much better than any MWC schedule and is quickly becoming comparable to many AQ conference schedules, as long as we don't fill the remaining four spots with WAC weaklings.

    I'm betting we'll see one or two AQ teams, one or two strong non-AQ teams, and maybe another independent fill the remaining 2013 spots.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 4:14 p.m.

    I like this series. Nice job Tom. That is a road game I will have to attend. I really like independence and am going to get some great road trips because of it.

  • GCTexas Kingwood, TX
    Aug. 23, 2011 4:11 p.m.

    Fans for at the Houston game need make sure to get there extra early to get parking lot parking instead of street parking in Houston's Third Ward. Walking to the stadium has been a scary experience for many fans (Houston Cougars fans and visiting fans alike).

  • Starfarer Mesa, AZ
    Aug. 23, 2011 4:09 p.m.

    carabaoU

    How on earth can you claim that one home schedule is better than another? It is all subjective.

    Let's imagine that one of your stellar home games in two years (pick any team I don;t care) gets hit with NCAA sanctions, loses 10 scholarships, and has a bunch of other players jump ship. In two years, they could be 1-6 when you meet.

    However, lets imagine that one of BYU's less than stellar home games is a team that starts a winning streak this year and is, let's say 17-0 when they come to BYU.

    The point is. You haven't got a clue what teams will do between now and when our teams will play them.

    What is funny is that although BYU fans may be a little out of wack, you are trying to argue that u are better...

    on a BYU article.

    That's like trying to argue that a Chevy is better on a Honda Owners Fan Club site.

  • Starfarer Mesa, AZ
    Aug. 23, 2011 4:01 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    I don't disagree that BYU fans can and sometimes do believe anything. (That is true of any fans, utes included.)

    The problem is that you, come to BYU comment boards as an authority on what is NOT going to take place and what is NOT happening.

    BYU may have all of those teams in "Secret talks" or none of them.

    But you can't be any more sure than the BYU fan who says that they do.

    On another note:

    I can't speak to what BYU fans say on ute articles. I have never read one or the comments. I wish they wouldn't if they are...

    just like I wish ute trolls would quit coming to BYU articles looking for a fight.

    I don't care if utah has a better schedule, or a better conference, more home games or more NFL players. To be honest, I could do without the holy war.

    I just don't like ute trolls coming into my house and talking smack. That is the only time I jump in.

  • defibman Syracuse, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 4:00 p.m.

    Hey Naval Vet, Remind us all again who Utah plays to open up the season?

    I think I need to go to the head.

  • riddlemethis Clearfield, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:58 p.m.

    Guys:

    Naval Vet (per his own post) comments very rarely on these articles. So disregard the fact he has 7/38 posts on this article.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:56 p.m.

    BYU obsessed...er, I mean Naval Vet;
    Ole Miss, Texas, UCF, Oregon State, Boise, Georgia Tech, Notre Dame, Houston, West Virginia, Hawaii are some of the the good to great teams BYU has scheduled so far over the next few years. Several are more than 2 games. Yes, Holmoe has eluded to more but has not mentioned names. The media has leaked a few names and several fans have passed those on in these posts. Some of those teams may pan out and some may not. Move on.

  • giantfan Farmington, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:47 p.m.

    Re: Naval Vet

    Who's saying that BYU scheduled Houston to attract big name schools? What I fail to understand is that why because BYU announces this home-and-home with Houston are any other deals with the Nebraskas, Ohio States, Penn States et al now completely dead? Both the Oklahoma in '09 and TCU '11 were brokered with the help of ESPN over the off-season just prior to the season in which it was to played. Go ahead and look at the future schedules. There's still two open dates in 2012 and many more than that each season after. I'm not saying big deals are going to happen because I don't know because I'm not privy to "secret meetings" but the fact that you're now calling them dead possibilities and crying "neener neener" at the top of your lungs is confounding.

  • SCCougar LEXINGTON, SC
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:47 p.m.

    Naval Vet: Just curious...what team are you for? Why are you worried who BYU plays? You give me any team ranked in the Preseason top 25 and list one who does not play someone from a non-BCS conference.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:46 p.m.

    Starfarer:

    The examples that I cited [and referenced] ARE the fans. They are not reputable journalists. And since I've seen you on these threads before, I feel I can assume you've read how quickly your fanbase locks on to those dubious articles as if they were fact, and perpetuate those ridiculous rumors amongst themselves; even to the point of attempting to taunt Ute fans with them.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:44 p.m.

    I'd love to see Utah also get a series going with someone like Houston, Rice, Baylor, etc. As much as Utah recruits Texas, and losing the bi-yearly game at TCU, it will be important to get games in Texas once every couple years.

  • giantfan Farmington, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:41 p.m.

    patriot said, "This independent experiment is going to destroy BYU football."

    Too bad that's more a wish than a fact for all the jealous BYU-haters out there.

  • carabaoU Moab, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:36 p.m.

    2013 Comparison (I grouped these using the nearest comparison in level of opponent and home vs away games):

    Utah State plays BOTH

    BYU at Notre Dame
    UTAH at USC

    Texas at BYU
    Georgia Tech at BYU
    UTAH vs Oregon (home or away game not yet decided)
    UTAH vs Stanford (home or away game not yet decided)

    Boise State at BYU
    Arizona State at UTAH

    BYU at Hawaii
    BYU at Houston
    UTAH at Arizona
    UCLA at UTAH

    Colorado at UTAH
    Oregon State at UTAH
    Washington at UTAH

    Both play great teams. BYU has more yawn games. Without knowing exact home schedule of UTAH and BYU needing more teams on schedule, it is too early to determine which team has the better home schedule.

  • flynn is the coolest Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:33 p.m.

    Wow, those columns didn't work at all! Sorry about that. Just look on FBSchedule

  • flynn is the coolest Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:31 p.m.

    We all know that most non-conference games are scheduled YEARS in advance- Houston already had two scheduled, and BYU completes that schedule 3 years in advance. So what's the deal with mocking the series? It's a step in the right direction. See below

    2011 Schedule 2012 Schedule 2013 Schedule
    Ole Miss Ore St. Texas
    Texas Web St** Hawaii
    Utah Utah Boise St.
    UCF Boise St. Utah St.*
    Utah St.* Utah St.* Georgia Tech
    San Jose St.** Georgia Tech Houston
    Oregon St. Notre Dame Notre Dame
    Idaho St.** Hawaii Utah?
    TCU Idaho*
    New Mexico St.** San Jose St.**
    Hawaii New Mexico St.**

    * Likely win
    ** Gimme

    Not trying to be pretentious with the asterisk- just saying where I'd put my money.
    Some may scoff at the future schedules, but I can see the ** teams disappearing with time. The 2013 schedule is shaping up- now hopefully it won't be full of * and ** teams the rest of the way.

  • JonnyDanger HOUSTON, TX
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:30 p.m.

    First of all, as stated by giantfan, we don't know yet what deals are still in the works, or have been close and since backed down.

    Secondly, assuming a long haul of independence (who knows?) we have plenty of time to play all of those teams you mentioned. Independence gives us the freedom to do so.

    Thirdly, in their first year of independence after a lackluster year last year, BYU's bargaining position isn't as strong as it could be. If this year goes well those results-coupled with intense exposure-will increase the brand of BYU and their desirability as an opponent.

    Fourthly, while all Cougar fans want to see those names on the schedule, we do not want them all in the same year. BYU is going to try to schedule 1-2 National Title contenders, 3-4 solidly good programs, 3-4 reasonably good programs and 3-4 easy wins. Scheduling the top three teams in the big10, big12 etc in the same year would be overkill. Any team in any good conference has those same ratios, so that is what we will stick to.

  • Starfarer Mesa, AZ
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:29 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    It is funny that you claim the article on May 17th as proof that BYU fans are claiming things.

    read the actual article. Nothing was substantiated and he admitted that it it was all rumors.

    Quit looking for a fight.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:25 p.m.

    giantfan:

    "Why in the world does scheduling Houston to a home-and-home for a total of two games to be played in two and three years from now mean that BYU won't be able to schedule some of those bigger schools?"

    Why in the world do you think scheduling Houston would suddenly reinvigorate schools like Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Nebraska? Do you think Athletic Directors in the B1G were saying to Holmoe, "No way, you guys are too bush-league for our marquee teams," but are now sitting up straight in their seats thinking, "Wait a minute...if Houston wants a Home-&-Home, they MUST be a big time program!"?

  • GoodGuyGary Houston, TX
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:23 p.m.

    Yes! Bring more BYU game to Houston and Texas. Should also schedule games with Rice and Texas A&M.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:21 p.m.

    no wonder Bronco only inked a 3 - year deal with the Y. After 3 years it will clear whether this independent experiment is a total bust or has led to the Y being invited to the Big 12. Scheduling teams like Houston is going to turn the Y into has-been really fast.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:18 p.m.

    When was the last time Houston was in the top 25?? Maybe 30 years ago? Sounds like the Y is already having trouble trying to schedule decent opponents. This independent experiment is going to destroy BYU football.

  • Starfarer Mesa, AZ
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:16 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    The problem with your post is that you "claim" to have all kinds of examples where BYU fans habitually leak info about scheduling.

    First, site some examples. It is like saying that BYU fans are all arrogant, yet that is, at best a personal opinion. Stop trying to pick fights by inferring that all the fans were leaking who we were going to schedule. You know that a few doesn't mean all BYU fans.

    Second, you have a tendency to misquote and take things out of context to seemingly prove your point. If a fan says they heard a rumor, don't take it as anything more. If they talk about "secret talks" use some common sense.

    The funny thing is, you claim that they are not happening. Like you are any more aware of "Secret talks" than a BYU fan is.

    BYU will do just fine with scheduling. They have only been independent a few months. Your pessimistic attitude is no more warranted, or likely than a crazed BYU fan who thinks that they will go undefeated every year.

    The truth will lie somewhere in the middle.

  • BYU/Jazz fan West Valley, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:16 p.m.

    Wow Naval Vet... you're trashing BYU for their schedule when Utah hasn't scheduled anyone yet other than BYU for their future years outside of the conference schedule and they're probably going to load up on cupcakes just like every other BCS school? How about you worry about the U and their schedule and them actually performing in the PAC 12 to see if they fly high or die before trying to tear everyone else down. Did you ever once consider that some of these other big name schools such as Penn State, Ohio State, and the like might not want to schedule BYU because they'd have a real chance of getting beaten? Of course not, you have way to crimson dimmed sun glasses on to see any other possibilities.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:16 p.m.

    CougarBlue:

    If you Google "BYU Football to Play Wisconsin, Nebraska, Penn St, Ohio St, USC, More" [May 26th]:

    "Wisconsin, Nebraska, Penn St, Ohio St, USC, UCLA, Arizona St., and Syracuse have all either completed, or are in the process of working on, deals that would allow them to play the BYU football team."

    "Here are the list of the deals that are 'done'..."

    "A 3 game series with Nebraska...A Home-Home-Neutral 3 game series with Wisconsin...Home-Home-Neutral 3 game series with Penn St...A Home-Home Neutral 3 game series with Ohio St...A Home-Home-Neutral 3 game series with Syracuse...Opening the 2013 Season @ Arizona St...A home and home with USC...A home and home with UCLA."

    For those Y fans still in denial, Holmoe eventually replied:

    "There's a lot of Internet rumors and they're mainly wrong...We have games scheduled out through 2020. We are close to three quarters of the way done scheduling all the way up through 2014. Right now we're focusing on 2016 and '17's schedules...We are currently not in discussions with Nebraska."

    3/4ths of the way thru scheduling...and no PSU, OSU, Wisc, or Nebraska.

  • carabaoU Moab, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:14 p.m.

    2012 Comparison (I grouped these using the nearest comparison in level of opponent and home vs away games):

    Oregon State - BOTH
    Utah State - BOTH
    BOTH play each other

    BYU at Notre Dame
    USC at UTAH

    BYU at Georgia Tech
    BYU at Boise State
    UTAH at Washington
    UTAH at Arizona State

    Hawaii at BYU
    Weber State at BYU
    Arizona at UTAH
    California at UTAH

    BYU at New Mexico State
    BYU at San Jose State
    UTAH at Colorado
    UTAH at UCLA

    Washington State at UTAH

    Both teams have great games. BYU has more yawner games though. UTAH has the best home schedule by a landslide.

  • giantfan Farmington, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:07 p.m.

    Re: Naval Vet

    Why in the world does scheduling Houston to a home-and-home for a total of two games to be played in two and three years from now mean that BYU won't be able to schedule some of those bigger schools? I wasn't aware that future scheduling was completely wrapped up for the Cougars for the next half dozen or so years. Scheduling Houston is a great thing that will allow BYU to drop the Idaho States or Idahos or San Jose States from the schedule that bring zero value. Other big (or bigger) fish are still out there and with the partnership of the World Wide Leader, it's more than likely that some big ones will still be landed (much like Oklahoma in 2009 or TCU in 2011). Count on it.

  • Ravenal Somewhere in, Utah
    Aug. 23, 2011 3:06 p.m.

    Navel Vet must be bored today.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 23, 2011 2:58 p.m.

    CougarBlue:

    "NavalVet I have never seen a blog about BYU fans claiming we are going to play your mentioned teams."

    The Deseret News linked an article to "deepshadesofblue" back when that blog's writer was pretending to have spoken with an unnamed member in the cougar Athletic Dept. leaking their alleged invitation to the Big East.

    Google "Big Names Lining Up to Face Cougars" [May 17th]:

    "You may have heard BYU athletic director Tom Holmoe comment multiple times in the media over the past several months about how surprised he has been by the number of high-profile programs that have shown interest in scheduling games with BYU."

    "Deep Shades of Blue has learned that BYU is well down the trail of striking deals with several big-name opponents."

    "...the Cougars appear set to face multiple Big Ten programs..."

    "As has been rumored for a while now, it does appear as if BYU is close to announcing a three-game series with Wisconsin and Nebraska."

    "BYU has been able to leverage the long-time friendship between LaVell Edwards and Joe Paterno in order to rekindle their series from the early 1990′s."

    And that was just ONE article.

  • IDC Boise, ID
    Aug. 23, 2011 2:57 p.m.

    Good get for Holmoe. BYU needs a balanced schedule with varying degrees of difficulty - just like you get in any conference. This game is great for exposure and will likely make for an interesting game.

  • vesparider Pocatello, ID
    Aug. 23, 2011 2:54 p.m.

    There are three NCAA teams with the mascot of Cougar. BYU, U of Houston and Wash St. Cool that two will be on the field that day.

  • Still Blue after all these years Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 2:53 p.m.

    I agree with comment about playing Houston that early in the season. I've been hoping that we could gradually eliminate the WAC schools which means we'd need games later in year. And it's Houston, not Notre Dame or Penn State - why does Holmoe always play at their place first? Against Houston, BYU should be able to demand play in Provo first.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 23, 2011 2:46 p.m.

    akk2602:

    I wouldn't call Houston "Weak, weak, weak". In fact, I wouldn't mind seeing them on Utah's schedule [sure beats playing FCS teams like Montana St.]. The only thing about Houston that is weak is that the Y appears to be running away from the alleged advantage of Independence -- scheduling whoever they want. And from the sound of it, cougar fans want schools like Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, or Nebraska.

    And I mean cougar "fans"; not cougar "coaches". Bronco cited his coveted BCS school match ups when he rattled off a list of power schools he's been dreaming of....like Syracuse, Northwestern, and Vanderbilt.

    Guessing he'd never heard of Duke.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 2:34 p.m.

    Houston might be happy right now with this agreement, but they won't be when we beat them by 4 touchdowns.

  • Zoniezoobie Mesa, AZ
    Aug. 23, 2011 2:34 p.m.

    "Our football team has never played in Houston" - Holmoe.

    Better said, never played at the University of Houston. BYU played at Rice University, only 5 miles away from UH.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 23, 2011 2:33 p.m.

    fresnogirl:

    Fans don't schedule teams, but Y fans habitually like to leak purported "inside information" from the Athletic Dept. regarding "secret talks" with BCS conferences [i.e. Pac-10, Big XII, BigTen, Big East] for admission into their league, "secret talks" with the Cotton and/or Holiday Bowl partnering with the Y for postseason destination(s), and of course more "secret talks" negotiating Home-&-Home series' with schools like Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Nebraska.

  • man of few words Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 2:32 p.m.

    Congratulations Cougars. Ignore the silly remarks from Naval Vet. Obviously, the scheduling will continue to improve -- especially if you win.

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 2:30 p.m.

    NavalVet I have never seen a blog about BYU fans claiming we are going to play your mentioned teams. There were articles about rumors, but no fan claimed we had signed to play those teams. Please get your facts straight.

  • jmchess1 Kemah, TX
    Aug. 23, 2011 2:25 p.m.

    I live in Houston so this will be a welcome change from watching BYU on TV or having to travel to Dallas to watch BYU play Oklahoma (which I did see first hand), TCU (also traveled to watch), or Texas (not sure if I will go).

  • akk2602 Sandy, Ut
    Aug. 23, 2011 2:24 p.m.

    Houston... lol that's funny... when are they going to schedule some tough good teams. Weak, weak, weak

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 23, 2011 2:24 p.m.

    On the upside, it looks like the cougars have finally started doing a better job with their scheduling. They're now beginning to move up from playing a weak-WAC schedule to a C-USA schedule. Sure, it's still pretty mid-major-ey, and pathetic for a fanbase who touts top BCS programs like Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Nebraska as lining up eager to play them, but still a major leap forward from the worst teams in the WAC.

    Even their FCS opponents improved...from Idaho State to Weber State.
    [*snicker*]

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    Aug. 23, 2011 2:23 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    I didn't realize that fans were in charge of scheduling teams....

    In that case, could we schedule Fresno State. They're not that great, but I'd like to see my Cougars play in person please.

  • CaryT VICKSBURG, MS
    Aug. 23, 2011 2:21 p.m.

    I hate to disagree with Tom Holmoe but BYU has played in Houston before, just not against the U of Houston. I got drenched in the stands while watching BYU get clobbered by the Rice Owls in 1997. It rained so hard in the 3rd quarter that at times you couldn't even see the field from the stands. BYU played very poorly, loosing 27-14 to a team that they should have easily beaten. Let's hope the upcoming games will turn out much better for the blue-clad Cougars.

  • Madden Herriman, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 2:18 p.m.

    I really don't like filling up a September date with this matchup, unless BYU is confident they will be able to get good opponents during October and November. Is Utah on the early schedule that year? Perhaps if we fill all the early slots, the Pac will relent and let Utah-BYU happen in November during rivalry week, the way it ought to be.

    Interesting that from most non-DNews articles I've seen, BYU and Houston are always the top two schools mentioned for Big 12 expansion (assuming Arkansas will never leave the SEC and that TCU brings no added TV market). We might be competing with them for a lot more than just winning a couple of games.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 23, 2011 2:16 p.m.

    Houston is a good addition to the cougars' schedule, but I can't help but wonder why neither Houston nor So. Mississippi were among the schools I heard Y fans bragging about scheduling over the summer. Instead, I kept hearing cougar fans citing schools like Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Nebraska.

    So what happened to THOSE schools?

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    Aug. 23, 2011 2:06 p.m.

    I love the accompanying photo with this article -- it's like Bronco is saying, "Yeah! Bring it on!"

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 23, 2011 1:56 p.m.

    Houston may be a member of the Big 12 by 2013/2014.
    Nice get.

  • JonnyDanger HOUSTON, TX
    Aug. 23, 2011 1:54 p.m.

    This is what I love about independence... This year two games in Texas, plus a probably bowl game. Then another in 2013 right here in Houston!

    Houston is a great addition to the schedule (and not just because I live there!). Good solid team, well-respected but very winnable. Hopefully teams like this will start to replace the Idaho States of current schedules!

    Go Cougars