@StGtoSLC "I find it ironic that BYU fans rate the success of their team by
the number of televised games, not on wins."The teams that
win/are successful/are relevant are the ones people want to watch...which is why
BYU has been put on national television so many times, and why we rate it so
highly.Utah's 2 BCS wins have gotten them a TV deal with KJZZ and a
whole lot of Bill Riley time this year.So one question for you: when
will Utah become relevant?
I find it ironic that BYU fans rate the success of their team by the number of
televised games, not on wins. Congratulations on the 30 year old championship.
When you have another undefeated season like Utah or Boise St. has, let us know
and maybe you can join the club of relevant bowl games. Or maybe you'll be like
that '99 Marshall team who got cheated out of one and had to play an irrelevant
Papa Smurf UTE / UteologyBowl Opponents Ranked in the Final Top 25
(both polls)Utah(4) - two Top 10, none undefeatedWSU
#15/#17Ariz #20/#20Ala #6/#6BSU #9/#7BYU(16) -
four Top 10, two undefeatedOk St #14/#14Indiana #19/#16SMU
#20/#20Ohio St #12/#12Ohio St #14/#11UCLA #14/#14Penn St
#15/#14Tx A&M #15/#13Iowa #10/#10Kansas #22/#23Ohio
St #11/#10Kan St #17/#17Tulane #7/#7Marshall #10/#10Louisville #17/#16California #25/#25Spin away, but bottom
line, BYU has played as many ranked teams in bowls as Utah has played bowls
@UteologyYou forgot the most important stat...National
Championships: BYU 1, Utah 0.Congratulations on your bowl record and
2 BCS wins. Nobody cares, including the PAC 12, which stuck your first ever PAC
12 opener @USC on Versus while Colorado gets an ESPN2 date with the Trojans.In fact, the Buffs, even in the current PAC 12 TV deal, are on
television more than U this year.Ouch...that's called getting
invited to the "big boys" table and then getting stuck in the high
chair and told to behave.Good luck with that :)@All
other Ute fansI find it ironic that we BYU fans get told by U fans
that we're the "national champs of the preseason" when, after one
decent showing by the offense in practice, y'all come on here and talk about
'smelling roses' and 'Rose Bowl here we come'.Wow...double standard,
anyone? :)Go Cougars!
2010 #89 (6-6) UTEP 24 BYU 52 (6-6) opponent dropped to #1212009 #16 (8-4)
Oregon State 20 BYU 47 (10-2) drop to #302008 #50 (7-4) Arizona 31 BYU 21
(10-2) rose to #412007 #41 (6-6) UCLA 16 BYU 17 (10-2) drop to #452006 #32 (7-5) Oregon 8 BYU 38 (10-2) drop to #372005 #31 (7-4)
California 35 BYU 28 (6-5) rose to #292001 #23 (10-2) Louisville 28 BYU 10
(12-1) rose to #171999 #11 (12-0) Marshall 21 BYU 3 (8-3) rose to #10
@CG: "No, biased spin is what we've come to expect from Utah; only ONE of
those 9 bowl wins came against a good team (Alabama)."Trust a
BYU homers to give opinion as fact without research to back it.In
bowl games played in the MWC (8 overall for both teams): AP Top 10:
Utah 1-1 (W#4 L#10) vs BYU 0-0Top 25: Utah 3-1 vs BYU 1-2Overall:
Utah 7-1 vs BYU 4-4API top 25 and USA Today Sagarin Rankings
otherwise:2010 #10 (11-1)Boise 26 Utah 3 (10-2) opponent rose to
#92009 #35 (8-4) Cal 27 Utah 37 (9-3) dropped to #462008 #4 (12-1)
Bama 17 Utah 31 (12-0) drop to #72007 #59 (8-4) Navy 32 Utah 35 (8-4) drop
to #742006 #47 (8-4) Tulsa 13 Utah 25 (7-5) drop to #652005 #24
(7-4) Georgia Tech 10 Utah 38 (6-5) drop to #412004 #19 (8-3) Pitt 7 Utah
35 (11-0) drop to #252003 #31 (9-3) Southern Miss 0 Utah 17 (9-2) drop to
@TroyTownTrust a BYU homer to be delusional.Utah State
put a thumping on BYU but no one argues that Utah State was a better team. Yes, one can easily argue that a 7-6 Washington was a better team than
7-6 BYU. A) They, unlike BYU, actually beat a team with a pulse, #20
Nebraska. Who did you beat? Bo Diddly Tech?B) According to USA
Today Sagarin Rankings: #28 Washington and #45 BYUUtah was a top 5
team as much as the 12-0 2001 BYU was a #8 team. Utah had a weak schedule
at the start of the season that's all. Down the stretch last year Utah indeed
was playing its worst football since start of the 2007 season, that's not an
opinion but a fact.
CG,Just like 2005 huh CG? When the UTES beat a ranked Georgia Tech
team, in a bowl game, with one of the top receivers in the nation that year. We
also had a backup QB that game with Brian Johnson going down before the Y game.
Over the last decade the UTES have beat better teams in bowl games than the Y
has. Wer have also won more bowl games than the Y has the last decade. So we
lost to one of the best teams in the nation last year in a bowl game, with a
inept backup QB. Ouch, 1 out of 10 bowl games is not too bad. Y fans would love
to have the UTES bowl record over the last 10 years, especially against some of
the teams we played in that stretch. You beat UTEP though, so that is a HUGE
bowl win for you. Have fun in the Armed Forces Bowl, even if you go 11-1.
StGtoSLC"UW's Bowl win over Nebraska>Bowl win over
UTEP"BYU 23 > Washington 17Trust a Utah homer to
use an indirect comparison, when a direct comparison disproves their obvious
StGtoSLC "bowl win over a good team is something you come to
expect from a team who's done it 9 bowls in a row and 7 straight years"No, biased spin is what we've come to expect from Utah; only ONE of
those 9 bowl wins came against a good team (Alabama).Very few of
Utah's bowl opponents were ranked (Pitt was ranked 25th in ONE poll), and last
season we saw what we can expect to see when the Utes do play a ranked team in a
bowl - total domination, by the likes of "girlsie state".
10-3>7-6. UW's Bowl win over Nebraska>Bowl win over UTEP. The down year
wasn't a spin, a bowl win over a good team is something you come to expect from
a team who's done it 9 bowls in a row and 7 straight years. Try it sometime.
StGtoSLC"Winning records from last year?"USC
8-5, Arizona 7-6, Washington 7-6. Based on their records and competition last
year, each of them better than BYU"Trust a Utah homer to try to
argue that Washington was a better team than BYU, "based on record and
competition", when BYU BEAT Washington head-to-head.Besides,
last year's records are absolutely meaningless as far as how good teams are
going to be this year.Laughing out loud at your "down
year" for Utah spin. Utah was flying high with a Top 5 ranking and Utah
fans were boasting about national championship aspirations in the biggest game
in Utah history, right up until their 7-47 beatdown to TCU and subsequent end of
We also play at Pitt (8-5 last season). In truth, I see BYU losing to a
previously 4-7 Ole Miss, 5-7 Texas, and a 10-3 (which was considered a down
year) Utes team. Don't take UCF as an automatic win, either. The Knights
finished 11-3 last year with a bowl win over Georgia. That's very realistically
an 0-4 start! And then you still have to play the USU team that demoralized you
last year, face humiliation to TCU, and finish the year with a decent Hawaii
team. That is cause for some concern. I do appreciate your care and and
well-wishes for the Utes, though.
Ducky, do you do anything but troll Utah stories? I am beginning to think the
answer is no as you seem drawn Utah football stories as a moth to a flame.
Unfortunately for you, you typically face the moths same fate against the flame
as your posts are shot down as quickly as the Iraqi Air Force, but don't let
that stop you from being so obsessed. Deep down I think you're really a Ute fan
but as it seems to be the only thing you think about.
@stgtoslcYea that's a real murderer's row. Although in truth I look
to utah to lose every single one of those games, and the BYU game as well.
LOL!It's getting close.
sammy: "Winning records from last year?"USC 8-5, Arizona
7-6, Washington 7-6. Based on their records and competition last year, each of
them better than BYU
@ Wally WestI like your analogy... Ute Turtles it is!===Life as a Ute... one good day at fall camp and the good ship 'Rosey'
sails again. Love it!===@gord"You should be
more concerned about trying to stay awake watching...Let's see, Utes
play who this year? Any teams with NCAA sanctions going on? Winning records from
last year?Give it 2-3 years and the Y's SOS will be just fine. When
do you play Texas, Ole Miss, Notre Dame, Virginia Tech, etc.? And
good luck staying awake LISTENING to some of your games.
I can not wait to see this freshman class play! If the reports from camp are to
be believed, Dres Anderson and Eric Rowe are going to be stars, Fakahafua and
Murphy will be very good right away, and Issac Asiata, Scott, and Langi could
all make big contributions this year too.Only 11 more days until we
can see if these players are for real, only 11 more days until we get to see the
new offense and only 11 more days until Utah plays its first game as a member of
the Pac 12 conference!
"the BYU defense hasn't had a single day as good as the Ute offense's good
day"BYU's defense is playing against BYU's offense; it's not
surprising that BYU's defense isn't having banner days against BYU's offense.On the other hand, any defense would have looked good against the
offense Utah has had for most of fall camp. The fact that Utah's DB's started
getting burned as soon as Utah's offense developed a pulse, shows that Utah is
going to have huge problems if Utah's defensive front seven can't put pressure
on the quarterback.
Wally West"If BYU and their fans want to continue to be the
hare then so be it. I'm certain that the Utes and their fans have no qualms
about being the tortoise."BYU achieved their first national
championship in their 60th season of playing football.2011 marks
Utah 118th season of playing football and still no championship. Enjoy being the tortoise. BYU doesn't mind being the hare.
re: Christy B | 12:48 p.m. Aug. 21, 2011 "It's laughable that
Utah sets such low goals for themselves, and then mock the Cougars for striving
for the ultimiate achievement."Perfection is a process not a
destination or quest. Its better to set achievable goals and make slow and
steady progress. If BYU and their fans want to continue to be the
hare then so be it. I'm certain that the Utes and their fans have no qualms
about being the tortoise. We all know how that fable tuned out.
I love how from the very 1st post on this article utah "fans" made me
the issue. LOL!As for the point at hand it is also LOL that utah's
offense has 1 good day and all of a sudden utah "fans" proclaim
everything to be just fine. Once again 1 good day in 3 weeks practice is hardly
something to get excited about. Well unless you are a "fan" of the
team that has only had 1 good day.LOL!
The jealous Utah fan hyperbolic mantra: "Coug fans are once again
proclaming a preseason NC"Not a single regular BYU blogger has
proclaimed that BYU will win the NC in 2011, yet Utah keep spouting the same
tired drivel.What's Utah's goal this year, to finish 2nd behind USC
in the PAC 12 South and backdoor your way into a conference championship game
with a mediocre 8-4 record?It's laughable that Utah sets such low
goals for themselves, and then mock the Cougars for striving for the ultimiate
achievement.It does explain why finishing 2nd is such a monumental
achievement for Utah.
I'm excited to hear that the offense has made progress. I was getting nervous.
It sounds like the o-line is coming together and Wynn definitely looked good.
It also sounds like we have a solid backup at QB and the RB's are getting
better.Bring on Montana State!!
re: WestCoast1 | 11:33 p.m. Aug. 20, 2011." Both Arizona
schools could be good, yet they tend to be really flaky---they both can win big
games, yet lose games they shouldn't lose"UAz is on the rise
IMO but has the same problem OU has a flaky head coach & what do you know
they are related. All things being equal; The U goes 8-4 finishes
3rd in the South behind USC & Arizona and goes to the Poinsettia Bowl.*If* the NCAA throws the book at the Ducks then Utah is sitting
pretty.re: Wiley Old School | 9:23 a.m. Aug. 21, 2011 Exactly. I could not have summed it up better myself.
byu116970:That's the difference between most BYU fans who post on
these boards and Utah fans. Ute fans would rather take the more challenging
road, knowing there will be some tough seasons along the way. But when a
special season happens, it will be rewarding and any recognition will be
earned.So many Y fans, however, would prefer to play cupcake
schedules and hope that enough other teams will beat each other up so that BYU
lucks into a high enough ranking to qualify for a BCS game.It looks
like each school's fans are getting what they want, so congrats to all...
Such good news to read about on a beautiful morning in So Cal.The
red roses in the block of U that I planted in my back yard look so beautiful
too. I can smell the roses!Go Utes!!!
@byu116970Don't you have some step sisters of he poor to get ready for?
Great thing being Independent.
byu116970 | 1:08 a.m. Aug. 21, 2011Tooele, Utah "How will
the exposure be if you fall on your face and prove to the nation non aq teams
cant compete in a bcs league"Hmmm. If a 2-time BCS-buster fails
in an AQ league, that won't bode well for a BCS invite to a non-AQ indy that has
never even sniffed a BCS bowl game. Glad you'll enjoy the over-exposed
late-season Idaho State-type games at home, you'll get plenty of them.
re: flamer66Those dumb Coug fans are proclaiming a preseason NC
again. Can't wait until the utes win the pac12 south and rose bowl though.re: westcoast1The southern division is utah's for the
taking. Sure glad the utes don't have any problem areas ! Langi will be the
ute's next 1000 yd rusher though he may need 900 carries to get there.Go rose bowl champs !
I wouldnt trade a 7-5 or 5-7 pac for ind ever. Bsu proved you can get to a bcs
game with a mediocre sched and you forget so did utah. So what the pac does is
make it harder to get there.How will the exposure be if you fall on your
face and prove to the nation non aq teams cant compete in a bcs league even the
awefull pac south div.
This is all good new, the Utes are getting healthy, the offense is starting to
come together, and there are no new injuries. The sky isn't falling after all.
Sounds like the Utes are making progress on offense. The papers down here are
sounding like USC is a little bummed about their post season restrictions. And
UCLA is shaky at best, although they are talented and shouldn't be overlooked.
Both Arizona schools could be good, yet they tend to be really flaky---they both
can win big games, yet lose games they shouldn't lose. With Colorado being in a
rebuilding mode with a new coach, the Southern Division of the PAC 12 is Utah's
for the taking.
Let's see Ducky, the BYU defense hasn't had a single day as good as the Ute
offense's good day. A couple good athletes at linebacker and Coug fans are once
again proclaming a preseason NC. Can't wait to see what happens.
duckhunter,Tough words! You should be more concerned about trying
to stay awake watching a schedule that includes a sub-par Texas team, a bad SEC
team, and a half dozen games against the lower half of the pathetic WAC. Independence isn't all it's cracked up to be, is it?
Let's see uteology, the offense had one good day out of about 13 practices
wasn't it? That equals slightly less than one good game for the 12 they'll play
this season. Seems about right.
Glad to hear it. Hopefully Wynn is back to 100% and can build continuity. It's good to hear that people are giving Utah a good chance at winning
the South. They picked a good year and drew a good schedule... Hopefully they
can make it happen!Go Cougs!
Utes are looking to step up as camp ends. It was painful reading some of the
articles regarding the offense during camp. I think it was beneficial to get Sam
B. back. I think over the next two weeks as the o-line comes together it will be
really good to see how the offense improves. I am getting ready for game one and
can hardly wait to make the trip to USC. Man its a great time to be a UTE!
"After being overshadowed by the defense throughout camp, the offense had
its day in the end scoring on nine drives with no fumbles or
interceptions."@DuckhunterWhat now? Back to TV
"exposure" smack?Good to see the offense making