Published: Sunday, Aug. 21 2011 12:00 a.m. MDT
Oh my goodness.I cant believe all the hoopla over CFL's. How does
something such as THIS become such a political lightning rod?Get
over it people. There are much more important issues to "have a cow"
Regarding mercury in the CFLs -- given that 80 percent of Utah's electricity is
coal-fired, the amount of mercury released into the atmosphere will be
significantly less than what is in the CFL bulb. Mercury has made several fish
and waterfowl off-limits for human consumption in Utah.LEDs are the
future, and the bulb that is likely to become the standard replacement for most
traditional lamps is the A19 size. It is expected to last over 10 years. Some
LEDs are definitely worthwhile today as you can put them in hard to reach places
(say high vaulted ceiling can lights) and literally never have to replace them
for the time you may live in your home (given that most people move about every
7 years). I have some LED rope lights in my home that are expected to have a
20-year life, but given how infrequently I use them, I may never change them in
my lifetime! Analysts have calculated that society's transition to
CFLs and LEDs will drastically cut energy use (about 10 percent of electricty
use is lighting).And old CFLs can be recycled at Home Depot.
I think it's great. Now you can tell where the tea-party lives by the old
fashoned bulbs on the porch. Someday you all will see how silly it
was to cry about light bulbs.
Wow! Are these 'killer bulbs' covered under Obamba-care?
Ahhh yes the 'fundamental transformation' process is in full view with this one
issue. We could let the markets decide which is the best product that would be
smartest for the money. Yet we let the government tell us, 'nudge' us into what
they decide is best for us. Maybe we just are 'acting stupidly?"
I hate when some bureaucrat gets to decide what is best for me because they
think I am too stupid to make the "right" decision.LEDs
and CFLs CAN save you a lot of money with low energy costs even though they have
a high upfront cost IF you use the bulb long enough. For those lights that are
on for several hours each day, the ROI can be good.I have lots of
lights in my home. Some I use a lot, others may only be on for a few hours each
year. For those basement and closet lights, LEDs and CFLs will NEVER pay for
themselves in energy savings even if they didn't use any energy at all.I want the freedom to decide for myself which lights I want to be expensive
but low power lights and which ones are just fine with a cheap old incandescent
It's only a matter of time before we are going to be billed in real time and
real cost (which is highly variable) for electricity at the household level. I
suspect this will eliminate incandescent lighting, and a lot of other things.
In the past year I replaced three CFL's and one real light bulb. Way more
expensive and many CFL lamps don't like burning in odd positions. They sure
don't like the cold and the warm up time is frustrating when you need bright
light NOW... not in a few minutes. They are the modern version of feeding
a cow less and expecting it to gain weight faster.
The CFL mercury issue is not about the environment. It's about introducing
mercury to locations where it does not now exist - in factories where the CFLs
are made and in people's homes. When a bulb breaks in your home, it's your
children that are exposed - not a carp or pigeon hundreds of miles away. But as
usual, environmentalists are more concerned about animals than humans.
One more example of why government intrusion through lobbied regulation is
unexcuseable. This not about energy savings, it is about money. Money for the
big manufacturers that have moved their operations off shore, but do not home
grown competition. So, get your friendly in your pocket politician, add a few
dollars for the energy saving folks (not environmentalists because they know
these bulbs are bad for the environment and individual health), and watch the
money roll in.
Corn Dog | 5:54 p.m. Aug. 21, 2011 New York, NY The CFL mercury
issue is not about the environment. It's about introducing mercury to locations
where it does not now exist ====== Boo Hoo Hoo....CFLs in home and factories?Like they aren't now in every
single public area, churches, Temples, schools, office spaces, stores, RVs,
trains, planes, subways (if you are really in New York).Just admit
the real reason is control and that the Government told you so -- you probably
still want lead in our paint and gasoline too?
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