Looks like an example of a kid who was told all his life how good he was, and he
apparently was good, and decided he didn't have to work to improve. Like others
have to. Good luck to him. He'll most likely end up at a Jr College somewhere.
Hope he gets past that.
@clerkkent"Do these young kids sign some sort of waiver which allows
BYU to publicly discuss their booting?"Uhhh...did you read the
article? BYU announced to him and his family privately last spring that his
scholarship wouldn't be renewed. This has been a fact that BYU kept quiet all
summer long and when BYU coaches were asked during media day about Drew Phillips
they said he would be able to practice starting August 29th.When he
made it public in his Twitter post there went any privacy issues regarding BYU.
Actually Bronco and staff have been commendable in the way they've respected
Drew's privacy in this. Also, I'll wager if we learn any more about this it will
be from Drew or people close to him and not from anyone on the coaching staff or
connected with BYU.
Good luck to Drew Phillips. Everyone wishes him the best. As for me, I had
greatly anticipated his presence on the football field and wanted to witness his
great athletic ability in a BYU uniform. I would like Drew to consider returning
to BYU. It is definitely not too late, and he is not too old by any stretch.
i wish the media would have discussed his eligibility issues---can he
immediately move to a division 1 without losing a year?---has he been working on
where he would like to go if not returning to byu?---does he have other football
connections that might influence his next decisions?---will he sign up for the
supplemental draft?---is a scholarship offer the only way he can afford to
attend college?---will byu release him so he can move on without penalty?---lots of questions the answers to which i would find more interesting
than rehashing why he lost his scholarship---
@MyCoug2011My original post was mostly in reply to another article where
un-informed posters were pointing a finger at Bronco and claiming he was trying
to clear another scholarship. From what I hear, the coaches and the players love
Drew and want him on the team. I was in no way insinuating Drew had violated the
HC, only that it sounds like it was his "lack of effort" in some
area(s) that caused this. I personally was really looking forward to seeing him
play for BYU and hold out hope that the situation will change and he will be
back at some time. BYU definitely is not for everyone but I believe anyone can
have a great experience here. Good luck to Drew regardless of where he
ends up. I hope he is able to finish his degree and find success and happiness.
Sorry for the errors. That was "If Drew found..." I didn't proof
read. My Bad. (And spelling errors too.)I want to add that I really liked
Drew. He is a great kid and would have been a fan favorite if he could have
been consistent in his adherence to team requirements. Don't vilify Coach
Mendenhall either. There have been meetings often to make sure Drew understood
the requirements, the policy and where he needed to perform at the expected
standard. This was not a one time problem and it was not a case of lack of
effort to keep Drew at the Y I am sure.As I was saying before the word
count ran out: I hope Drew would come back, rise to his potential and meet the
team expectations and be a valued member of the BYU team. Fans would love his
sense of humor, his excellent football skills and his other talents. I wish he
would reconsider. He just has to follow through. I thank his family for their
support of Drew. He is a good young man and Y fans will miss him. This could
be a turning point in Drew's growth.
I appreciate Drew's family member trying to correct the wrong impression that it
was academic or honor code related problems. Please look at the quote by Bronco
very closely. It says, "Drew is someone that struggled in his time here at
BYU, just kind of in team policy and consistency," This can mean in
attending required meetings, class room attendance, team rules, effort in the
weigth room, required classes, etc. If it is required classes for everyone
attending and he just didn't follow through and was given opportunity to do so
and didn't then it's not academic but "team policy" that he struggled
with. Coach Mendenhall has always made it clear that BYU does not recruit
atheletes to BYU by selling them the University but allows them to choose to be
part of the Universities team as some one who wants to live to that standard,
wants to be part of the team mission, and wants to be a step up. I Drew found
he did not want to make that commitment that is his choice. He was not cut,
cast off or thrown under a bus. He departs on his on choice and actions. I
wish he would come.
Personally, I am more curious in the Justin Sorensen situation. Sounds like the
uprights were swaying and all fell to the goal line.
I want him to come back. There are a lot of fans that hopes he comes back. He is
a talented kid, that being said, he needs to do what is best for him. Flat out
though, at BYU, you need to work hard. Maybe Drew has just been so blessed that
he has never had to work hard to find success? I don't know. I will say that
this one hurts a lot, and Drew you can still earn your way back and do good
things for BYU. If he chooses a different direction, then I hope that it is best
Good luck to you, Drew. I think I can speak for all cougar fans when I say we
were excited to see you on the field.I think I can also speak for
most cougar fans when I say there is no respect lost for Drew or his family.
Sometimes things just don't work out. Anyone who commits to BYU in the first
place is a friend of mine, whether they end up playing or not.Here's
hoping Drew can take the steps to get back with us. If not, good luck to him
wherever he goes.
These players have a ton of tudors to help.
There should be no blaming BYU for this one. A scholarship needs to be earned
and that is throughout the student's schooling as a whole. Drew obviously was
doing poorly to be put on "probation" in the first place and he
obviously didn't pick it up in Spring and Summer semesters to merit the
scholarship. I am sorry to hear that he will be leaving because I really
thought he would have been a great addition to the team, but BYU needs players
who are dedicated on the field and off the field.
I really do not understand why this stuff is publicly discussed by BYU and
printed in the DN. This is not the same situation as last year where an athlete
was pulled during the season. Do these young kids sign some sort of waiver
which allows BYU to publicly discuss their booting? If they do, perhaps that
waiver needs to be challenged if they are not represented by a lawyer that
explains to them the ramifications of what they are signing.
@MyCoug2011"We do not like how Drew is being represented and we will
learn from this. It is unfortunated how things have turned out but we will not
have misguided information printed about Drew or our family. Drew was eligibe,
Drew did not violate any HC rules."Often players sit out parts
of fall or spring camps to work on school. The article had very few
details and did no speculating on reasons. It didn't report that he was
ineligible. It simply said, "Phillips has not been participating in fall
camp due to academic reasons. Mendenhall said in July, during the school's
national media day, that Phillips could rejoin the team on the first day of
school, which is Aug. 29." On top of that most of the comments on message
boards have been favorable and supportive.Personally I was really
looking forward to seeing him play and put his speed to good use running the
ball, catching passes and returning kicks. This comes as a shock to all of us
but it looks like it was made clear to the Phillips family back in the spring.
I hope he comes back but understand if he doesn't. Best Wishes.
Drew:Good luck to you in your future football career.
not returning to BYU is a good move for Drew. ( well done )
@Lonestar runner and anyone else who didn't hear what Mendenhall saidHe never said Drew was academically ineligible and they pulled his
scholarship. He said that after summer classes that Drew could pay his way for 1
year and then they would re-evaluate. From afar it sounds like Drew
understood that if he took the summer classes and did well, then he would be
good to go. It doesn't sound like that is what the coaches meant. I
have no idea if that is the scenario. No reason to malign the kid. Good luck
wherever you end up. We would love to have you back here.
@MyCoug2001There was no mention of an honor code violation...thus no need
to address an issue that doesn't exist. But I honestly would like to simply
know how in your opinion... based on facts supposedly not being presented... is
Drew academically eligible when the University is saying that he hasn't been
since spring semester. Compounding that is also that Drew having had the summer
to possibly earn his way back to academic eligibility apparently has not
reached the level needed to reverse his eligibility. We're just simply asking
you to enlighten us with your information. Nobody is trying to put Drew in a
position of compromise. We'd love to have him back and eligible to play.
Drew's parents were sent a letter before summer informing them that he was going
to lose his scholarship, but he could earn it back by completing a couple of
class during the summer. Obviously he didn't.Drew wasn't working in
the classroom and, from all reports, he wasn't working that hard on the practice
field either.Too bad. He's a talented kid and he had a lot of
potential, but it looks like he wasted a great opportunity, and he has only
himself to blame.
@MyCoug2001:Not knowing details, I'd like to see Drew pay his way
for a year and return in a year. In the long run, it would provide the greatest
I'm impressed with Chambers for sticking it out.Too bad if Drew
doesn't.For now, it's another RB's opportunity.
CougarBluePlease cut the whole family, friends and supporters of
Drew some slack. Gifted young man and for whatever reason, this isn't working
out the way anyone wanted, and it's just plain tough. We don't need
to know ANY side of the story, we just need to actively judge all involved the
way we hope to be judged some day - with compassion, with concern, and with a
hope and faith that a loving Father can turn all things to our good, including
We should respect MyCoug2011's wishes. Drew and his family deserve both privacy
Let's give it a rest people-especially Cougar Blue. No need to vilify those who
feel Drew was slighted. The BYU coaching staff is not infallible. Whatever
happened, it just didn't work out. Period. Don't go putting your nose where it
doesn't belong. We all were excited to see Drew play. We all wanted to see him
succeed on and off the field. We all still want that for him. End of story.
@MyCoug2001Well I would certainly like to hear the otherside of the
story if you are willing to tell it to us.One of the things that is
frustrating about BYU is that they never give out the details of situations like
this and it is always left to speculation by the press, or the fans. I know enough people at BYU that I could probably get a fairly good picture of
their position but I would love to hear yours. I don't think we'll ever get
anything decent from the fans of the media unless someone from your family does
an interview.So fill us in, let's hear it.
My Coug 2011: We are sorry how this has worked out. I've got to tell you,
though, that I don't think Drew has been thrown under the bus by this article.
We KNOW there were no HC violations, and I knew a couple of months ago that he
was not in academic trouble with the school. I assume other fans knew/know that
as well. This is a time where we all just express our hope that things work out
well for Drew, without trying to delve into details that are not any of our
business. I for one, would love to have him play for BYU in the future. But if
not, I wish him well wherever he goes from here.
Best of luck to Drew. I hope he finds a great place to play where things are
handled however they need to be handled to have it turn out better for both he
and wherever he might end up. If that isn't nebulous, I don't know what is. LOL I just don't know what went down or how it went down
and so I can't say much else, one thing is for sure, the real story is only
known to those involved and I won't speculate. Good luck!
MyCoug2011 let me get this straight. You know all the absolute truth am I
correct. And how do you know the absolute 100% truth? How is this story
one-sided. Either you are academically eligible or you are not. That is the
bottom line. Drew was the one who tweeted and brought this out in the open.
BYU was keeping silent about it trying to work with Drew. No where in the
article or anything I have heard or read says anything about Drew violating the
Honor Code, so there is no need for you to make that innuendo about what others
think. I assume when you said about "Drew and our family," you are a
relative. IF that is so is not your own statment hypocritical, because you are
also one-sided as I read your comments. The only information coming out after
Drew brought attention to himself is that he did not complete the necessary
course work correctly to earn the grade to remain academically eligible. How is
I would just like to comment that I find it amazing how stories can be so one
sided. I will not throw anyone under the bus but what is being reported is not
the whole facts and those involved know what the truth is. We do not like how
Drew is being represented and we will learn from this. It is unfortunated how
things have turned out but we will not have misguided information printed about
Drew or our family. Drew was eligibe, Drew did not violate any HC rules. Yes,
Drew struggled with some things and had learned from it as do many young people
who leave home for the first time. If you can print what you do in the
newspaper then you can post my comment. This is freedom of speech afterall.
BYU has requirements in place in an attempt to avoid situations of this nature:
scholarship recipients are required to enter with high academic standards.
Statistics have shown that athletes with borderline academic standings have a
high incidence of "problems"(academic and otherwise).
I was really hopeful that Drew would be running for BYU. Good luck to you Drew,
you are very talented and I hope you have a soft landing where ever it is.
Bummer for both sides - we wish him the best wherever he ends up.
Good luck Drew. Sorry things didn't work out better for you at BYU.
A tough deal all the way around. Here's hoping the haters show a little class
and just move on by.Best to you, Drew.
My father was involved in these situations back in the day. Each case is
different and I doubt we will ever hear the whole story. Drew will say one thing
and BYU will say nothing. I still remember one kid telling his hometown paper he
got kicked out for having a beer in the fridge when a recruit was at his
apartment. He left out the fact that he had gotten two local underage high
school students pregnant and had felony assault charges. I just hope Drew finds
a good place to land.
There you have it. This was entirely on Drew's shoulders and BYU / Bronco gave
him every opportunity to remain at BYU. In fact, the door is still wide open if
Drew wants to earn his way back. Those of you who speculated that this was
somehow BYU or Bronco trying to force Drew out so his scholarship was available
must feel pretty silly now. Those of you who mentioned that this was somehow
discrimination are really..............