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Published: Monday, Aug. 15 2011 11:41 a.m. MDT

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A voice of Reason
Salt Lake City, UT

Romney, like him or not, provides a very clear picture of a Romney White House. Look at how he has handled things in the past, his current positions on 'the issues' and you have your answer... a clear picture of Romney.

Huntsman also paints a pretty clear picture. He plays the religion card only when it suits him, which is dishonest. He was democrat with a republican mask. He skates by on his fathers name, while Romney actually made a name for himself before he jumped in the pool. A clear picture of overall blur by trying to throw in every paint to suit every crowd. It's a facade, nothing more.

Ok
Salt Lake City, Utah

Both Romney and Hunstman are a bit strange, I don't think either one of them would play in the White House. Thank goodness there are others to consider for the position.

wamba
Layton, UT

Too many people in this world are extremists. Bennett wasn't conservative enough for the Tea Party. Pro-life democratic senators aren't allowed to speak at the democratic convention. If Huntsman isn't completely orthodox he's
"not a good Mormon".

Seems to me that our soundbite culture has expanded to our brains. We don't want to digest anything unless it's oversimplified and black and white.

IndependentLiberal
Salt Lake City, UT

Really! Who?

Utah Girl
Vernal, UT

I am personally more concerned about the evangelical candidates than I am about either Romney or Huntsman. Neither candidate would "push" their religion on the American people in any way. The values learned as members of the LDS church would only serve to enhance their abilities to be honorable, ethical leaders. And I'm NOT saying that other religions are not honorable, as I have many friends of other faiths who are very good people.

I am concerned when I read things such as: "(Gov. Rick) Perry's audience Saturday was filled with people who sang with arms outstretched in prayer-and weptas Christian groups played music on stage. And Perry, himself, huddled on the stage in a prayer circle with several ministers who helped lead the event. It was Perry's idea and was financed by the American Family Association, a Tupelo, Miss.-based group that opposes abortion and gay rights and believes that the First Amendment freedom of religion applies only to Christians."

If I were Jewish, or Muslim, or any other non-Christian faith, this would be very concerning to me. NOTHING wrong with a day of prayer, but it should include ALL faiths.

joy
Logan, UT

So will the next article and discussion be on Perry and Bachmann's religion? Why are we singling out people's religions?
I'm glad they are not afraid to speak of their beliefs whether it's not yours or mine. Plus, I don't feel ones religion should play a big part into the political issues. As we see it hasn't play any big part into Obama's. If anyone bring sit up he does a photo shoot of he and his family walking into a church. And of course all the Rev. Wright issues before he was elected. People complained and he stop going to he could be elected. But do you really think he changed his thinking? I really doubt it.
Churches have been doting America since the first immigrants arrived here and it represents the majority.
Stop beating the LDS religion to death and listen to what the candidates are offering.
My fear, Mitt will be elected and everything he does will have a backlash to his religion but not Perry.

A voice of Reason
Salt Lake City, UT

Pagan and Utah Girl:

Pagan, your 'when pundits say that Obama's 'Mormon=weird' strategy will backfire' then "Someone outside the Mormon faith does NOT talk about it, it's... 'bad.'"

That simply didn't make sense to me. Mind rephrasing? Side note: 'purported' isn't quite accurate. If I started using 'weird' in saying 'weird forms of marriage', I think you and everyone else would certainly know what how the word was directed.

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Utah Girl,

While I'm not sure I entirely understood part of your statement, I would like to add a couple points. First, is that being all-inclusive doesn't work. I'm not saying one should be favored over another- I simply feel that government spends too much time and money accommodating people. No freedom is infringed if such accommodations are not met.

I completely agree with your concern regarding evangelical candidates. I'm not saying that evangelism equates to bad practices- but I do find concern when any candidate pushes religion on others. However, I feel that state recognition of 'traditional marriage only' does not force one's views on others. They may still privately marry, like polygamists. Not agreeing, endorsing, or recognizing it, etc. does not take freedom away, only recognition.

Dixie Dan
Saint George, UT

Watch out the Evangelicals as they control a +25% of the Republican party. This group will control who the final candidate will be for the presidency.

micawber
Centerville, UT

@Utah Girl

Rick Perry also concerns me. And, when the American Family Association says "Christians", it doesn't mean Mormons. Bryan Fischer, Director of Issue Analysis for Government and Public Policy at the American Family Association, and a big proponent of the candidacy of Rick Perry, says the First Amendment doesn't apply to Mormons because they are "outside the stream of historic Christianity". (Bryan Fischer: No longer alone: Herman Cain agrees on banning mosques, July 18,k 2011.)

PR
North Ogden, UT

When John F. Kennedy ran for President, people were concerned about the influence of the Pope and the Roman Catholic Church on American politics. Our nation survived it's first non-evangelical President, and many would argue that we are better for it. I think the same holds true for a "Mormon" President, as it would for a Buddist, Jewish, or leader of any other faith. What is important is the person's character and ideas, not where they go to church.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

Headlines of recent Deseret News articles:

-Perception of Mitt Romney election to presidency would be similar to that of John F. Kennedy, scholar says
-Coverage of Mormonism in campaigns sometimes unfair to evangelicals too
-Fox News host: Romney not Christian
-Jon Huntsman Jr. stands by his Mormon religion
-Huffington Post: Pawlenty video aimed at Mormon faith of Romney and Huntsman
-Mormon official challenges 'cult' designation
-The Economist and other media consider why Mormonism carries agitation among many
-LDS reporter who worked on Newsweek's 'Mormon Moment' story defends controversial cover
-Controversial Mormon Newsweek sold out
-'Mormons Rock!' says Newsweek cover story about LDS Church, Mitt Romney
-Huntsman says his Mormon church membership is 'tough to define'
-How defining were Jon Huntsman's comments on his Mormonism?
-'I am Mormon,' Huntsman tells 'Good Morning America'
-Mitt Romney, Jon Huntsman Jr. compete in Mormon primary
-Mitt Romney, Jon Huntsman Jr. mull Mormon dilemma
-Poll: Mormon church membership negative for Huntsman, Romney
-Romney's religion unknown to most
(a few more examples, but there is a word limit)

I'd dare say that the Deseret News has made much more of an issue of Romney's religion than Barack Obama ever will.

Mary E Petty
Sandy, UT

Currently there are 15 members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who in the US Congress. I think a clearer understanding of the nuances and spectrum of LDS membership would be better understood in today's political environment, if Romney and Huntsman were discussed together with these 15, including Jim Matheson and Harry Reid.

defibman
Syracuse, UT

@Pagan, Just because you quote all the "headlines" in a Utah paper does not mean that Obama has not talked about, discussed, or otherwise commented about Mitt's or Jon's religion. I dare say that there is much,much more written ,discussed or commented than any of us would ever dare guess by other than the DN.

As for some others who have commented, I had a boss in Oklahoma who called himself a "Five mile Baptist". He was a Youth Minister at his Church. I asked him what that meant and he told me, "Five miles out of town and anything goes." I just wish that the media would dive into all the other candidates along with our current President as to their religions and how committed they are to it.

Munk
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Frankly, I don't care if they are Mormon or not... I just care if they are competent.

Utah Girl
Vernal, UT

@ "A Voice of Reason", I also totally support traditional marriage. I'm not quite sure what you didn't understand about my post, but I was trying to say that neither Romney nor Huntsman would ever push their religion on the public. But I find the same is not true of many evangelicals. As a group, they tend to be very intolerant of those they consider "outside" their beliefs, and yes, including Latter-day Saints. I noticed during the GOP debate last week, there were a couple of Catholic candidates, as well as Protestant and Evangelical. (I personally have no idea of the difference between Protestant and Evangelical.) Little or nothing has been said about the faith of the other GOP candidates, which somehow doesn't seem fair. But it is what it is...

@ Micawber, it seems SO strange to me that a church called The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints would be branded as non-Christian, considering Christ is at the very center of everything we believe and do.

But religion aside, the candidates need to be considered based on their experience, platform, ability to lead, and so much more that is far more important.

Vanka
Provo, UT

Utah Girl,

You wrote: " it seems SO strange to me that a church called The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints would be branded as non-Christian, considering Christ is at the very center of everything we believe and do."

Although I am not LDS, my lovely wife is. I attend LDS meetings with her every week, and have done so for the past 20+ years. I attended meetings yesterday. Interestingly, of the two youth speakers and the two adult speakers, only one scripture was quoted the entire Sacrament meeting. The speakers gave little stories and anecdotes that did not mention Jesus at all. One of the speakers mentioned a missionary story and said it strengthened his testimony of Jesus Christ, but did not say exactly what it was about Jesus or his teachings that was so inspirational or moving. Other than that, the only time Jesus was mentioned, was in the closings.

This is not uncommon. A couple years back I counted for three months how many times Jesus' teachings/scriptures were explicitly mentioned in LDS meetings. Results in Provo Utah? About 20%.

You can SAY you are Christian. See Matt.7:22-23

Vanka
Provo, UT

DN Editorial Staff:

I am not allowed to express my opinion? Even though it does not violate your rules, and is mild compared to many others you did post?

Please be consistent and post this:

After living among the Mormons most of my life, and reading Lisa Wangsness' article, sometimes I wonder whether or not everything Mormons do is not just a publicity stunt. All Mormons ever seem to want to do is draw attention to themselves and their Church.

And here I thought vanity was a cardinal sin.

Michigander
Westland, MI

Neither Romney or Huntsman is God's choice for POTUS. It remains to be seen over the next 15 months who will be the Lord's politically Anointed One. Whomever he or she is, they need to eliminate ALL Business taxes, while at the same time increasing ONLY the personal income tax rate to 70% on incomes of $250K or larger. They also need to reinstate by Executive Order (as Commander-in-Chief) "don't ask don't tell".

VST
Bountiful, UT

Pagan stated, "I'd dare say that the Deseret News has made much more of an issue of Romney's religion than Barack Obama ever will."

I fully agree. I think it is time for the DNews to "give it a rest."

prlim
ROCHESTER, MI

I am a Christian who believes that God does not look at the labels we use. He knows those that belong to Him. We know them by their fruits. Glenn Beck has convinced me that some Mormons know and have given their lives to God. All churches have some true believers and some that only "go to Church."

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