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Published: Friday, Aug. 12 2011 12:00 a.m. MDT

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The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Sandy, you are wrong.

Very few people agree with the Tea Party stance of cutting without any increase in revenues.

Oh, and about that stimulus, most economists feel that it should have been bigger. In fact, much of the stimulus money was spent bailing out state governments to help keep police, fire, and school departments afloat.

I just love how so many conservatives love to talk about the stimulus package and declare it a failure. In reality, Keynesian economics haven't even been employed. Had we of actually built up our infrastructure, energy, and education, we'd have much better employment and a recovering economy. Instead, we get this conservative junk heap, of a few rich while everyone else is struggling.

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The Republicans control one half of one branch of the federal government. Why do some people think that that should give them dictatorial powers over everyone else?

Esquire
Springville, UT

You are so right when you say "The tea party is founded on all those things everyone enjoyed and perhaps took for granted for years." They enjoyed tax cuts, a long list of government services that were not paid for, pursuing two unfunded wars to satisfying their international swagger. When their enjoyment of all the spending caused a huge deficit and the worst recession since the Great Depression, they go mad at the guy who was handed a country in disaster. The tea party is based on narcissism and worse, and now they want to take away the freedom of the majority who don't submit to the will of this minority. The tea party is rooted in selfishness and tyranny.

Rand
FLAGSTAFF, AZ

"compromise, why?"

Because you are a significant but minority opinion living in a representative democracy. The minority doesn't get to dictate public policy, and your belief that you have the moral imperative does not change this reality. You Tea Partiers really need to get over the belief that you are waging a holy struggle and come back down to planet earth where compromise, negotiation, and rational debate can actually get things done.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Sandy,

it's only compromise of the repubs give in to the dems - it doesn't work the other way around

But let me guess, since you stuck up for the tea party you MUST be (according to the dems) racist - oops, no, that charge has been totally debunked; wealthy, elitist, and want to kill everyone and everything that isn't exactly like you. That is, of course, the inaccurate lie the dems are trying to paint in their attempt to minimize the tea party and hold onto power despite their dismal record of the last few years.

VIDAR
Murray, UT

tea partiers want everyone elses freebees cut.
except for their own.
They do not want money spent on anything
except for their own pork projects.
they want welfare for the wealthy
but not for the poor.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

I have news for you tea party haters, They don't hold any office in congress, they don't vote on any legislation and they don't spend money we don't have. Guess who does? If you want to blame anyone, try to be honest with yourself and figure out who had control of both houses of congress everytime the debt ceiling was raised, both "bailout" debacles were passed, when Obamacare was passed and when both wars were funded! The tea party was not even in existance then! Barking up the wrong tree again are you?

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

The Tea Party's selective memory, short-sightedness and inability think beyond simplistic, selfish feel-good soundbites is acid on the fabric of our society.

If it were possible to isolate the Tea Party into their own little world where their self-destructive fantasies could play out I'd say fine, let them enjoy their fantasies. However, because we all must share this one world we can't afford to let their irrational chest-thumping go unchallenged.

The Tea Party is dangerously nuts. They believe things that are demonstrably untrue, and deny things that are demonstrably true.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

Took for granted for years is the key here. There's a whole generation who thinks the world comes with equality and fairness, clean air, clean water, safe food, drugs to cure everything imaginable, the right to vote, the right for women to play college sports, the right to success if you work hard, etc. etc. The world doesn't come this way it was built this way by our grandparents, and parents at a cost. Some times that cost was blood much of the time money. The problem is the ilk who takes all this for granted thinks taxes are evil and it's their money. Their money to keep and spend as they wish, and when they do that the air will stay clean, all will still have the opportunity to go to college, if they work hard they will be successful, and they will magicly create a paradise based on their consumer spending. Wrong!

This doesn't mean current society is perfect, efficient or effective all the time, but it was built and didn't happen because that's the way the world is. It was built on sacrafice. The sacrifice of blood and dollars.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

The Democrats are very good at playing the 'blame' game. The last Congress, totally controlled by Democrats, wouldn't even pass a budget. They gave us $4 TRILLION in additional deficit spending in just two years. The Congress before that, also totally controlled by the Democrats wanted us to believe that Mr. Bush's powers of persuasion were just too much for them and that they just couldn't resist him.

Mr. Obama still fails to take responsibility for anything. He probable blames his overcooked breakfast on Mr. Bush. Mr. Obama has acted like a spoiled child, pointing his finger at everyone else, throwing under the bus anyone who crosses their eyes at him. He stomped his feet and threw a public tantrum when the House would not give him 'carte blanche' to spend another $2.6 trillion before he leaves office. He threatened our seniors and our vets.

Now he, and the rest of the Democrats are telling us that the Big Bad Tea Party is to blame for our Country's woes.

Are there no mirrors in Washington? Can the Democrats not see themselves as they are seen?

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

The tea party is founded on all those things everyone enjoyed and perhaps took for granted for years.

Even the writer only gives a vague description of what the tea partiers stand for.

I think pragmatistferlife listed them above quite well.

Scared by or hate the tea partiers, no, I feel sorry that they believe they stand for anything but a distraction, bought and paid for by the corps they readily worship.

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

Americanwithnohyphen, the tea party has proven to be full of SS and Medicaid recipients that are wealthy and use thier SS check for thier motorhome payment and vacations.

The republicans keep telling them that SS is in trouble (motorhome payment).

I glad I can give them a free motorhome arn't you? The tea party is just the me-party that loves thier government handouts and doesn't like competing with poor people for it.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

The tea party advocates in Utah will be in a dilemma when the tea evangelicals take over the no compromise party. Then it will be no compromise on religion. One of the leading first amendment recent cases in where an LDS family went to Court to stop a Baptist prayer at a texas school.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Screwdriver. I don't own a motorhome because I pay too much of my income in taxes funding liberal entitlements! Incidently, I paid into my S.S fund all my life and guess who stole it and spent it all on the War on Poverty?

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

Somebody stole your SS? Who George Bush?

What are you talking about? Nobody stole your SS check. So are you saying you do or do not take Social Security?

LBJ introduced the "war on poverty" 45 years ago.

cymrul
West Valley City, UT

Mike, you are a prime example of the problem. You blame the Democrats for finger pointing and passing the blame, but you are guilty of the same thing. When the Republicans ran everything what good came of that? Two wars not paid for, Medicare part D, not paid for, Tax cuts that weren't paid for. BOTH parties stink on ice. We need to be more grown up than our representatives and admit that BOTH parties have failed us and have for years. NOT just the last 3. And I agree with you that it's time Obama stop blaming Bush and just start fixing things. But that will take cooperation from everyone. And no one seems willing ot do that. That means that we the people need to have the guts to make the changes needed and get people in office who WILL work together for the country and not their party.

Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

4th-repost

Tea Party are terrorists

The US isn't merely double-dipping back into recession, but worse it's in the early stages of a depression that will strangle the economy possibly for years to come, just how bad is it, well, a ex-inmate captured breaking back into prison to put a roof over his head, 3 squares and a flop, and medical help, that's how bad it is. That means investors need to stock up on cash and other funds whose strategy is to succeed in a bear market. We're in a Depression that will last for years. Excessive debt burdens will take years to shake off, and the problem is that many economists underestimate how long a debt-saddled contraction can last, especially when negative social moods, Koch Brothers and Grover Norquist, in their "Field Of Dreams" of corn and sugar cane, called "Ethanol Subsidies" entitlements that hamper economic activity even more. We're in the early stages, so we don't have the severe unemployment, the severe bread lines and that sort of thing yet. It means they should prepare for a bear market to last for about five years and look for opportunities in such a scenario.

Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

Why was there a financial crisis in the first place?. Because of runaway spending that sent the national debt up against the legal limit. But when all the big spending bills were being rushed through Congress. The GOP created the crisis, the Tea Party helped it along, so now, President Obama gets all the blame, because it's Congress that spends, he just signs the check. The US isn't merely double-dipping back into recession, but worse it's in the early stages of a depression that will strangle the economy possibly for years to come, just how bad is it, well, a ex-inmate captured breaking back into prison to put a roof over his head, 3 squares and a flop, and medical help, that's how bad it is. Excessive debt burdens will take years to shake off, and the problem is that many economists underestimate how long a debt-saddled contraction can last, especially when negative social moods, Koch Brothers and Grover Norquist, in their "Field Of Dreams" of corn and sugar cane, called "Ethanol Subsidies" entitlements that hamper economic activity even more. We're in the early stages, and don't have yet severe unemployment, the severe bread lines.

Moderate
Salt Lake City, UT

The Tea Party insisted that the debt limit not be raised (Michelle Bachman is still spewing that nonsense today). They favor defaulting on our debts. That would harm America.

Once I realized that the Tea Party was so willing and eager to harm America, I tuned them out. It's kind of like Timothy McVeigh. He may have had a valid point to make, but he chose a bomb-laden rental truck to deliver his message, and nobody is going to listen to a lunatic.

Maybe that less-radical "Coffee Party" will take hold as we tune the loonies out.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Just because they have the money to talk very loud, the Tea Party people think they are speaking for all Americans. It ain't necessarily so.

The Tea Party represents the upper class business community who is funding their agenda. The reason for the agenda is to provide more freedom to business and take it away from people. The most flagrant and onerous part of their agenda is to oppose government interference in private enterprise.

Thinking people involved with the daily struggle to survive realize that it is the regulations rules that give us freedom. And taking away those regulations and rules will destroy the freedom of the people.

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