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Published: Thursday, Aug. 11 2011 10:07 a.m. MDT

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EJM
Herriman, UT

I'm just grateful that the Utah Public Education system isn't getting the blame on this one. I'm just saying.

utahprincipal801
Sandy, UT

The "dance" companies and academies that teach erotic moves to girls as young as 5 and 6 year olds with accompanying costumes are just as guilty. The culture and mothers that encourage this are on every corner in Utah Suburbia.

John C. C.
Payson, UT

Those at the back of the train like to point a finger at those at the front and sneer, "Look where he's going!"

goitalone
w bountiful, ut

Parable of the sower seems applicable here. Sow the wind and reap the whirlwind.

Jeffs is a pedophile masquerading as a theological leader. Popes, priests and pastors need not get sanctimonious here, but I do find it interesting that a polygamist family was recently shown on a national TV show. They were not on public assistance. The children attended public schools. In all other respects, they seemed inclined to practice their creed without interferring with anyone else being harmed, but they are being prosecuted for bigamy.

At the same time. Hugh Hefner lives with multiple women in his mansion, is lauded with a "reality" TV show. Charlie Sheen lives with two porn stars and his children, and his lifestyle brings him fame and fortune.

Can anyone besides me see hypocracy here? Evenson will get blasted by some on these threads, but he raises some very valid dichotomies and incongruities.

LValfre
CHICAGO, IL

Most of the world, or developing and educated parts of the world, are becoming more and more secular. Little sins here and there are becoming less and less important compared to what your overall life brings to the table. Be happy, don't hurt nobody, and you're fine. Besides, if God exists ... he forgives! So live your life and enjoy yourself without hurting anybody else. Not a fan of little girls being exploited (or exploiting themselves), but this isn't a Christian owned country. Let people do as they wish and leave them alone, and they'll do the same for you.

Jim
Mesa, Az

Lepers used to have to warn people that they were coming, i.e. ring bells or shout unclean, unclean. However, spiritual lepers get away scott free, with no warnings attached.

Jas Binns
SAN PEDRO, CA

Goitalone you think hypocrisy by comparing Warren S. Jeffs to Charlie Sheen or Hugh Hefner? Warren was convicted of both aggravated sexual assault of a 12 and 15 year old girls. Jeffs is married to 78 wives, 24 of whom were under the age of 17 years. Plus, Jeffs "Bad Acts" included raping a 7 year old female cousin Shuria Jeffs and sodomizing a 7 year old male cousin Brent Jeffs. Your comparison and equating of comparable moral corruption is laughable. How come such monsterous sex crimes are dismissed as just like the real world? I do see decided hypocrisy in your evaluation. Today, the Royal Mounty Police have openned an investigation into victims sex trafficked as minors across the border to be celestial sealed to Warren Jeffs then they were sequestered upon FLDS Church enclaves. The two girls that he was convicted of raping have vanished. Don't recall anything approaching this occurring at the Playboy Mansion or Charlie's Pad.

sushirocks8
SLC, UT

Since when have women been thought of as equal human beings? I'd like to know when this small blip in history occurred so that I can learn more about it. I am not even 30 and yet I've been told that I'm past my expiration date, ugly if I don't weigh a certain amount etc... However I don't think you can compare Warren Jeffs to this, he is still way out on the fringe of society, for awhile anyway. The way our society is headed polygamy will be acceptable just as gay marriage will be soon, you know, "as long as it isn't hurting anybody."

joy
Logan, UT

Pedophiles are a plenty. They don't even hide in the dark back rooms anymore but are gathering followerss at every turn.
They thrive on the porn sites and wet their appetites but slowly they begin to need moreand soon they are acting upon their sick perversion. Warren Jeffs acted upon his desires through the disguise of religion. His addiction became so large that he began to convince his followers that it is was acceptable to God. Very sad and morally and legally wrong.
But I agree with the fact that Hugh Hefner as acquired his following and projects the image of one nice happy guy. But his justice falls under the same category. Perversion, addiction and degregation of another person. Hugh may have girls that of age but they are totally under the influence of a very deprived individual.
Evil is Evil and whatever face it appears on it is criminal, it is sin.

Warren Jeffs may serve his time on earth which that time will end but all those who are using women/little girls as objects and use them to fulfill and satisfy their own gratification will face the eternities which has no end.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Lehi's comments to his son, Jacob in 2 Nephi 2 says it all.

There are many "monsters" out there. Warren Jeffs is just one of them. Those who look the other way when children are hurt share fully in the crime.

Independent
Henderson, NV

It's almost amusing to see the great lengths to which the writer went to distinguish Jeffs from popular culture be completely ignored by posters.

Howard Beal
Provo, UT

I doubt Jeffs nor his followers watch cable TV to participate in the sick popular culture in which Evensen speaks. Instead, Jeffs led a very closed off, closed-minded society where he expected complete obedience. I'm not seeing the pop culture connection.too much with Jeffs. In Jeff's case (and that of the FDLS church), this might be a case where the people are better off being of the world...

Spot Light
Beverly Hills, CA

I have to say, this sounds like a press release from shortcreek, "evil world of gentiles" and all that.

Nahh, Warren was extra evil, and he cant blame it on the world. Not buying it.

Sorry.

Spot Light
Beverly Hills, CA

go it alone

"Charlie Sheen lives with two porn stars and his children, and his lifestyle brings him fame and fortune."

Umm, Chuckles was shoveling out about 150,000 MONTHLY to pay for his ex'es and porn hookers. OOPS he lost the hookers but still has the exes.

Charlie Sheen is no excuse for Warren or any other Polygamist to misbehave. People in their right mind know this.

And as much as I despise Chuckles, and he did go after younger women, I dont think he went after children.

John Charity Spring
Alloway, NJ

Modern Hollywood has an open and stated agenda of promoting substance abuse and every form of immorality. Indeed, Modern Hollywood has done everything it can to glorify indiscriminate and wanton sexuality.

Popular culture has degenerated into a moral abyss that is dragging the Country into complete moral decay. As a result, rates of crime, addiction, divorce, and broken families have increased phenomenally.

If popular culture is not reformed, diabolical criminals like Warren Jeff's will multiply like cockroaches. If any of you parents truly care about your children, you will banish the evil influences of the entertainment industry from your home immediately.

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

Jeffs stated long ago while commiting the crimes that if the world knew what he was doing they would hang him from the highest tree.

He didn't quite get the highest tree but he'll be up there for the rest of his life.

ClarkKent
Bountiful, Utah

Should all polygamists who took child brides be deserving of the same treatment? Or are we going to make excuses for LDS polygamists. Are you willing to use the same adjectives to describe them as you use with Jeffs. If not, why not?

BobP
Port Alice, B.C.

Jeffs is a monster.

Makoto13
SAINT CLAIR SHORES, MI

There is sick, Sick and then SICK! Jeffs falls in the latter. I think life in prison doesn't even begin to pay his debt to society but it's the best we can do.

If there's any justice in the world Jeffs will run into a few Bubbas.

KJB1
Eugene, OR

As much as the DN may want to deny it, polygamy is part of the Church's history. It can atone for it all it likes, but it opened Pandora' box. Blaming "popular culture" is a cop-out and a sad attempt at a distraction.

Whatever happened to "personal responsibility"? Or does that only count for poor people who are easy to demonize?

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