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Published: Wednesday, Aug. 10 2011 5:00 a.m. MDT

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downtown424
CHICAGO, IL

This is great news. Thanks to President Uchtdorf, and the rest of the General Authorities, for really setting a Christlike example for how to treat our neighbors.

camotim
Council Bluffs, IA

Whilst a not isignificant number of these neighbors, murder people in the name of their religion.

New Yorker
Pleasant Grove, UT

camotim,
It sounds like you want to draw a line in the sand--them and us. Stereotyping is not useful. Each person is an individual. Well, in any case, I refuse to be on your side of your imaginary line.

jdcray
Richmond, VA

Now THIS is the kind of story that deserves to be on the front page of any newspaper! I, for one, am going to do my part to share it by Twitter, Facebook, etc., etc.

friedeggonAZstreets
Glendale, AZ

Thank you,Pres. Uchtdorf, you are an example to us on how to be like Christ.

Vick LL-L
Highlands Ranch, CO

Wonderful information! Thank you for publishing it. We all need more of the good stuff so that we can hold on to hope that positive dialogue and experiences with our Muslim brothers and sisters will keep us working together and diminish fear and mistrust.

John Pack Lambert of Michigan
Ypsilanti, MI

It is good to see the positive responses to this article. It is even better to see that President Uchtdorf was willing to express solidarity with Muslims at a time when it was most unpopular.

I also wish the responses here indicated we had made progress since when Orrin Hatch was attacked for expressing solidarity with Muslims for their false stereotyping. However I am afraid that the lower response rate from hate-mongers may be because they do not dare attack President Uchtdorf with the same vitriol as Senator Hatch, at least not the anti-Muslim ones, and the anti-Mormon ones are still trying to figure out how to make points with this article.

The headline of the article also fails to clue in the haters.

Even thhough it should, I do not expect this article to cramp some people's accusations of hate against the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I am just wondering if reading this article has shamed any of the people who used German-born President Uchtdorf's call as a chance to attack the Church for being "Nazi-like". However I doubt such people have shame.

Maryquilter
Farmington, UT

To John Pack: I don't think the point of the article was to 'shame' anyone. It was simply to convey something positive in today's hate-filled world of prejudice and judgement. It has made me so happy to listen to and observe President Uchtdorf and his loving, calming, peaceful spirit. The Spirit radiates in his countenance and in this instance it shows his willingness to reach across to our Muslim brothers and sisters, even if it places him in a position from which no doubt many will make pot shot criticisms against him. Thanks President!

ctrwbc
WEST PALM BEACH, FL

I don't know how much Uchtdorf knows about Islam. but he should talk to the sister I talked to who lost her children when She and her convert husband went to the middle east to vist his family and Then was told to go home with out her husband and Children. I pray for her even though I did not get her name. I have read some of the Quarn. I wanted to know if alot of what I heard was true and it is. We cannot assume that a religous Muslim shares our values and princples. Islam from what I have learned from Christian converts include one brother who gave a talk in church fireside and from reading the Quarn and asking Questions to Emoms like is it your intent to establish sheria Law in the United states. and they all said Yes. Muslem are inslaved by Islam and live in its Terror. Muslims do not believe that they are children of God they believe that they are Slaves. Don't assume Muslem have the same values find out the truth before standing on a moral platform. I don't hate muslim but they need our prayers

ctrwbc
WEST PALM BEACH, FL

I don't know how much President Uchtdorf knows about Islam. but he should talk to the sister I talked to who lost her children when she and her convert husband went to the middle east to visit his family and then was told to go home with out her husband and children. I pray for her even though I did not get her name. I have read some of the Quran. I wanted to know if allot of what I heard was true and it is. We cannot assume that a religious Muslim shares our values and principles. Islam from what I have learned from Christian converts include one brother who gave a talk in church fireside, from reading the Quran and asking questions to Emoms like is it your intent to establish Sharia law in the United States. and they all said yes. Muslims are enslaved by Islam and live in its terror. Muslims do not believe that they are children of God they believe that they are slaves. Don't assume Muslim have the same values find out the truth before standing on a moral platform. I don't hate Muslim but they need our prayers

chinookdoctor
PASADENA, CA

I thank President Uchtdorf for this gesture and for all the work he does to help dispel hatred within the Church. It is sad that so many of our people take one or two examples, though they may be personal, and project them as the real truth about everyone of an assigned group. For ctrwbc, I'm sorry that you've only had these examples. Sharia Law is not all of Islam; there are over 1 billion muslims who practice many different forms of Islam. What if you talked to followers of Warren Jeffs who converted to another Christian faith, their view of the life of "Mormon" would be pretty skewed. Or, what if you talked to the extremists in our church who are racist, sexist, homophobes and xenophobes, they would tell you some really strange things, but that would just be their view, their interpretation. Most muslims I know are utterly against terrorism and the forms of Islam practiced in places like Afghanistan, whose personal experience is correct? It reminds me of Russia in the 1990's, people here hated communists, when I went there in 1991 before the coup I found wonderful loving people, not crazy anti-American communists.

Maryquilter
Farmington, UT

Thanks Chinookdoctor! I could not agree more. I recently watched a show on religions of the world which interviewed a Muslim imam in the U.S. who is responsible for teaching non-Muslims the truth about their beliefs. Wish I could remember his exact title which he holds at a prestigious university. I was surprised to learn how many beliefs Muslims and Christians hold in common. He shared passages from the Koran which are the opposite of ctrwbc's claims above.

There are extremists in all religions and in my view, extremisms are wrong regardless of their point of view. President Uchtdorf was simply saying that all people need to have understanding for one another and those who wish to further peace in the world should join hands in the effort. We fear that which we do not understand and tend to lump all Muslims together with people like Osama Bin Ladin. How sad if Muslims lumped all Christians together with people such as Timothy McVay or so many of the Christian fundamental extremists that are out there spreading hate.

ctrwbc
WEST PALM BEACH, FL

Another friend of mine I pray for he went to Egypt to marry his wife both are christian. He will bring his wife back jto the USA. I am praying for he and his wife safty. 2 Coptic Churchs in Egypt were burned down in less then 6 months in the last 9 months. Egypt is 10 percent Christian. of the subject I visted the Neswanstein East German Temple in 1991 and a Temple worker said that Satan had a strong hold on the people there. going to a flea market and old Nazi stuff was being sold shows how suppressive communism was East Germany. buy a Car and wait 10 years to get it. In america we are sheltered from the real oppression that others live under. 1915 Turks of the ottoman Impire (califate)killed of 1 million Christians
Get a Quran and investigate it ask questions dening that there is opression and slavery in Islam and dening it not good there is not a comparision of apples to apples between Christianity and Islam. ask a Coptic or Antiochian orthodox both speak arabic about islam or why they are both here in america in my community. I have

called2serve249
PROVO, UT

@ctrwbc: I don't know how much you know about Islam, but you misspelled almost every word regarding their religion. And while you're right, their values aren't exactly the same as ours, that doesn't mean we should hate them. Some Muslims have done terrible thing, and so have some Christians. Ironically, it's those terrible things Christians have done that lead people to hate Christianity, even though billions of Christians have come and gone in the last 2000 years living good, honest peaceful lives. It's not fair that a religion (or any other group for that matter) is defined by its strangest, most extreme, or most violent members.

BobP
Port Alice, B.C.

I am now waiting for President Uchtdorf to make a similar gesture to Israel and the Jews.

ctrwbc
WEST PALM BEACH, FL

I do struggle with spelling and I have critized for this before. But the jist of what I am saying is understandable. If it makes feel more right because I don't spell well is not my concern. I know that Islam teachs that they are slaves of God and that it is presumptuous for Christrians to believe that they are children of God. A brother in my ward whoes daughter married a Muslim and converted to Islam told me that she believes that she is a slave of God and not a daughter of God. does that maker her bad? no. Do I hate her? no. I don't understand why the Church sent food and supplies to Indonesia after there tsunami and placed lables on the food that said Islamic relief. I don't understand why mormons would join muslim in fasting during ramadam. I know that Muslim work with the church to provide relief supplies for Haiti. I prayed this morning to understand. Perhaps is the Lamanites in the book of mornom who were converted. Also Serbia killed alot of Armenian Muslims in 1993,1994,1995? study history and religion and don't stick your head in the sand

grammy4
DRAPER, UT

Chinookdoctor - Thank you for such a well-thought and well-written statement. I personally have studied "holy" books from varied religions over the years. I read much of the Quran (even though any translated form does not officially count as such)a few years ago. I have become personally acquainted with members of the Muslim communtiy. The people I know are very spiritual, religious, and do their best at following their faith. I have nothing but admiration and respect for them. They live their daily lives with great respect to others of every religion. Their faith teaches them to be tolerant of people who are not of their same faith. Too many of us see what we "Choose" to see and follow our fears rather than following reality. I have found that the Muslim people (and their teachings) parallel the LDS church far more than any other organized religion I have found. There are differences, yet so many quality similarities.

grammy4
DRAPER, UT

CTRWBC- I don't know what values you are referring to in your statement, "shares our values and principles," however, I'm certain by reading your comments that "Your Values" are definitely NOT the same as "My Values." Please speak ONLY for yourself. On a further note, I don't mean to be snotty about this, however, you stated that you have (been - I assume that's what you meant) criticized for your spelling before. May I suggest that you might also struggle with reading and comprehension, as these are critical points to understanding what you read. You might be misunderstanding words and therefore concepts. No harm or insult is intended with this comment.

BevHills
BEVERLY HILLS, CA

To ctrwbc: I'm really not sure where to begin with the impressive level of fallacy that you have displayed. The first statement I feel compelled to make is that it appears you have read just as much, if not less, of the bible and/or Book of Mormon than you have of the Quran. However, if you are going to volunteer to read any text, it would help you more if you started with a text book.Your belief in your 'expert' level of understanding of history might be something to be proud of, however, I do not see you making any counter points to your loose description of the Armenian Genocide of 1915. For instance, between 600,000 to 700,000 people died in the U.S. Civil War. That was Christians fighting Christians over the right to own people. This, was actual slavery. I do not see your righteous indignation on that issue, nor do I see you upset about how horrible Americans treated Native American Indians for years. Perhaps, if you could read a page or two of a history pamphlet, you could be an expert on those subjects too!

BevHills
BEVERLY HILLS, CA

~ctrwbc: All joking at your expense aside, I want to applaud your application of Jesus teachings in your daily life. Perhaps you could help me to understand. I seem to have trouble locating the scripture where Jesus said that we should make judgments against an entire culture. Also, if you insist on using anecdotal information, please do a better job than: I know someone who; but I do not remember there name. That was just sad and pathetic. Here is an example as to why: I know this lady, who said that the lost city of Atlantis was in her back yard. She said she buys kittens from the city and teaches them to read the bible. Now, that was a fun story, but I truly hope that you dont take it as fact just because I said so.

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