@ Where's Stockton ???,I was adding my viewpoint to what you were
saying about Anae's play calling.My point is that neither Riley nor
Heaps was experienced enough in the system to make good, effective changes at
the line to override Anae's mundane calls.They did well with what
they had to work with, and both are quite intelligent---they just were not
experienced enough last year.I totally agree with what you've been
@WhatsInItForMeAm I supposed to be reading something into this
comment of yours... If I am then admittedly I'm not sure of your intent. My
comments in my previous post referenced however... if taken logically... would
obviously include intelligence as just as an important part of athleticism as
coordination, agility and endurance. To even speculate that it doesn't... would
be totally misplaced. Neither Heaps nor Riley Nelson are lacking in
intelligence by no means and both highly capable of reading defenses. Nullifying
"dull play calling" might not neccessarily be my choice in wording but
there is no argument that a good Quarterback will read and make changes
accordingly...I totally agree that not going with one or the other
as the designated starter from the get go did in fact hurt the team. However
as the season proceeded after Nelson's injury removed him from the picture... it
still was the predictability of the Anae factor that still outweighed all other
factors when it came to hindering the overall progression and development of the
offense. He just simply didn't do much to change the variables. He didn't have
a very good contingency network to fall back on. Therein was the problem.
I'm excited to shake things up. I am in Mississippi for the summer for an
internship, and let me tell you...it is hot! I hope they turn up the heat for a
few practices in that indoor practice facility! That being said, the heart and
soul of our defense this year from a personnel perspective (and from the last
half of last year-read BRONCO-from a scheme perspective) will be our run
defense. Ole Miss' strength on offense will be their run game. If we can't
match up there, then all the hype is for nothing. I think we'll be ok though.
Texas' main goal this year is also to establish their run game. Bronco
showed against Oklahoma a few years ago that he can stop a potent offense if he
sticks to his scheming. If anything we will be susceptible to deep balls with an
inexperienced secondary, but as long as we can hold two out of every three
possessions our offense will be pretty hard to stop. Even for (hopefully) TCU,
who has had Anae's game-plan the last few years! GO COUGS!!
Honor Code needs new material.
Re: Pittsburgh NellieUtah went from the Poinsettia Bowl in 2007 to
the Sugar Bowl in '08 (Jan. 2009). That's about as "over night" as it
"Good news from camp! Very tantalizing to hear about the new offense. Hope
with hard work it all comes together so "magic happens". ""With Heaps triggering the offense and Doman calling the shots,
this could be the most exciting offense BYU has had since McMahon and company
were lighting up the scoreboard in 1980. "Whooooooooooooooooa.
Easy guys. Let's take the glasses off for a minute and come back to reality.
Knee-jerk comments in response to the article. Let's keep in mind that a team
doesn't go from NM Bowl to BCS game over night. I think the optimism is good to
have, but let's all keep perspective here.
I can't wait for BYU to play those WAC teams and kick them all over the field!!
I love the part about copying Boise States offense and style. I have been
suggesting that for some time now. I only hope it is true and not typical BYU
hype. We will see how it goes.
You know how I know Anae was a horrible offensive coordinator (besides his
predictability, struggles against athletic defenses? Ute trolls are
defending him...@mgr63New year, new coaches... It's why we are
so enthusiastic. Bringing up games during a struggling time last year doesn't
validate your argument. It's going to be a fun year of college football for both
the Utes and Cougs as they head off into a new direction away from the Mountain
@FL Cougar.I just looked up the box score and it was as I expected,
remembered vaguely. FSU 278 yards rushing, BYU 76. FSU scored 21 points in the
second half, BYU 0. That is what heat will do. And, FSU was not that great last
year. Anyway, we'll see what happens at Ole Miss and UT. But, BYU had better run
the ball, that simple. Cheers sir.
@FL Cougar,BYU got hammered in Tallahassee last year 38-10 and FSU
ran all over BYU. BYU was awful! That is exactly what I'm talking about. BYU
can't play in that heat, they did cramp up and it will be hotter at Ole Miss and
UT. At least in Florida there is a breeze.......not here......dead, stale
air.Houston Nutt has his job on the line and Mack Brown is really
embarrassed how badly Texas played last year. Texas will be fired up......it is
all over the news here in Dallas every day. Ole Miss and UT will be ready. Plus,
they have much better athletes than BYU. BYU will struggle......trust me.
BYU fans are crazy the way they kill Anae - BYU would have been hopeless under
Bronco without Anae! Bronco's ego was just to big to be able to work with a
take charge guy like Anae. When things turn bad you need a guy that is steady
and a strong leader it will be interesting to see if Doman Can be that guy. I
think BYU has some great offensive talent but I am interested to see how they
handle adversity because they will have some tough moments in there first three
@ Where's Stockton - 9:07am Aug 7I'll bet the QBs had a lot to do
with nullifying some of Anae's dull play calling, especially in check-offs. You
know, changing the call at the line?The problem simply reared its
ugly head when two inexperienced QBs were at the helm last year.
@riddlesinthedarkHilarious post, man! I was thinking the same thing
when I read Just Gordon's post...couldn't tell if he was talking about BYU or
Utah.Just Gordon...you just got Jimmered :)@mgr63That scary hot and humid weather...I'm sure the team's really worried
about (roll my eyes). I'll give you this, mgr...that was some new material.Luckily, we've got the depth to rotate two to three players for each
position and not drop off in talent. Can the Utes say the same? From the
sounds of it, the O-line, QB, and secondary are all very suspect for U right
I agree that playing in the heat will be a factor, but I don't think it will be
a big one. I saw the game in Tallahassee last year (it was a hot one, as they
all are down here in September), and I thought our guys handled it fairly well.
When teams start to have guys down with cramps and such, you know they're not
conditioned well enough to take the heat. Our O-line is leaner and the whole
team seems to be in better shape, so we'll do just fine.Ole Miss and
Texas have one big strike against them this season: they and their fans do not
think they have good teams. Football is an emotional sport, and a game with two
teams that are even matched will always be won by the team that wants it more.
Texas and Ole Miss might be standing around with their hands on their hips, but
it won't be from conditioning, it'll be because they don't have all of the
pieces of the puzzle in place this year. When they run into the buzz-saw that
will be BYU this year, count on them to lay it down.
@PanamaCowboy stadium is climate controlled brother Panama!
Hahahahahahaha! OH my? You coug fans are so amazing! Ole Miss and UT are outdoor
stadiums...........and it will be so hot at both places, you'll
see.........we're dying here in Dallas.... 37 days in a row over 100 and HUMID.
Better be able to control the clock cougars.......run the ball, if you can, or
Riddles...I doubt it...but you are entitled to your fantasies.
mgr63The humidity didn't seem to bother BYU in the inaugural game in the
new Cowboys stadium in Dallas - why should it now? Also, if the Utes can
surprise Alabama in a BCS game, BYU can surely come to the South and beat a Big
12 and an SEC team in the first two games of the season. You can count on it -
mark it down. I guarantee it! I even think BYU goes 11-0, then travels to
Hawaii, but this time will be different than when Detmer & Co went there and
lost. BYU will be ready, this time, and it will be a blowout loss for Hawaii.
BYU plays in a BCS game, and wins. BYU 13-0. That is my prediction. You Utah
trolls don't have to like it, but I do. That is all that matters!
Offense sounds like it is in for a good year. Let's hope they pick the new
system up quickly enough to be ready for their tough early competition. If it
is complicated as it seems it might take a while. Having the good O.L. and
returning starters could be the difference in a great season.
Also, BYU has to travel to the hot and humid south for their first two road
games playing against SEC and Big 12 talent. Who cares how many great throws
Heaps makes in camp, doesn't matter. They had better be able to run the ball,
because Ole Miss with the #1 SEC O-line this year and Texas will run the ball
all over BYU's very suspect defense. And, they may even pass against that new Y
secondary as well with success? If they(BYU) don't run the ball well and control
the clock, the BYU defense will get exhausted in the hot weather for
sure.......game over. Then, they have to face the Utes, which is never an easy
task for BYU in this century. I would speak very softly cougar fans
until the wins come your way, if they do? I know that wish is expecting way too
much though. The talk of "glory" never ceases, sadly.
"Doman counseled with Beck, Hall and Detmer for offensive plays? None of
those guys have done anything in the NFL."Gee, this is a
toughy, but could it have something to do with the fact that BYU doesn't play in
the NFL?Two of the all time winningest quarterbacks in BYU history
and a former Heisman Trophy winner just might know a little about college
football.btw, how much NFL playing experience does Norm Chow have?
How much college coaching experience did Chow have when he started coaching at
BYU?It's amazing how clueless our friends on the hill are about the
real workings of college football.
I love how Cougar fans don't understand that Anae's "conservative"
play calling was designed to develop, but more importantly protect an
inexperienced QB.Dynamic offenses tend to expose the QB to blitzing
DBs.It will be interesting to see how Heaps reacts to being laid out
by his first blindside hit from a blitzing DB.
Don't even have a second thought about these Ute trolls' comments. They are
just trying to foment trouble and unease. They want us to become negative in
our thinking, hoping it will have some effect on the members of the team. We
need to stay positive, very positive. Let's not play their game. BYU will be
just fine. In fact I think they will be great. Just wait and see. Also, we
need not be negative at all about something the media says. They want to drum
up controversy, even those that are BYU reporters. That is what sells papers.
"A new offensive scheme, an untried offensive coordinator, a quarterback
who hasn't won against top ranked teams...yes good times are ahead."Have faith; Wynn might still prove to be a serviceable quarterback and
Chow might still have a little bit left in the tank.Neither of them
will have as good of a season as Heaps and Doman, but Utah might still qualify
for a bowl game.
To whatnext and others: Don't worry. Bronco will have the defense ready. I
think that BYU's defense may been used to defending the "old" schemes
from Anae's years of being the offensive coordinator, so when they started
seeing new schemes, they may have been a little confused, as they practiced
against the "new" offensive schemes. That is a good thing. It shows
just what we want - to be able to confuse the opponents defense. Bronco's is
one of the best, so if the offense can confuse them a little bit, that is a
positive thing. It won't last long. Why worry about something like this after
just one practice!
Doman counseled with Beck, Hall and Detmer for offensive plays? None of those
guys have done anything in the NFL. Why doesn't he contact Steve Young or Jim
McMahon? Those two have Superbowl rings! Yeah, this new offense will just be
outstanding with the likes of Max Hall's input? Oh my goodness? Bronco had to
put Hall in damage control mode he was so turnover prone, still is, as he rides
the pine with the Arizona Cardinals, soon to be released no less. BYUs
"new" defensive backfield should be every cougar's concern coming into
the 2011 season. That is what will be the determining factor against decent
Gary Crowton had a new dynamic offense also... that worked out well.
A new offensive scheme, an untried offensive coordinator, a quarterback who
hasn't won against top ranked teams...yes good times are ahead.
I like what is being said about the offense, but I'm a little concerned about
the defense. I hope the confusion they showed at times during their practice
with the offense is not an indication of how they will do during the season.
Some of you read that article differently than I did. Doman did not say he was
moving to a passing game. He said he was going to mix it up...make it
unpredictable. I believe we do need to pass more than we have been, but I feel
he is smart enough to keep the running game moving forward also.For
the last few years my number one gripe has been the predictable offense. I am
off the charts excited that this is happening.
I agree with many of you that we need to focus on both run and pass schemes in
order to proper confuse and intimidate defenses. The reason the pass worked so
well in the beginning with Warren, was because no one really knew how to defend
against it, and ironically, if you'll remember, that passing attack created the
nation's leading rusher Pete Van Valkenburg. It takes more intelligence and
planning to play football now than it did back then. When you have a full
arsenal of weapons to run and pass, you do both! It's the fun way to play. Oh
man I'll die if this season doesn't begin soon!
I agree with Idablue that the balanced attack is the most effective. That
doesn't mean I didn't enjoy the 70's and 80's and all those 55 pass-attempt
games. But two problems emerge with that kind of offense:First, when
BYU came up against teams with above average secondaries, they usually lost
because they were dared to run and couldn't. In other words, they had no
"Plan-B." Second, there is no way that BYU will be able to
successfully recruit top running backs like Curtis Brown, Harvey Unga and Joshua
Quezeda when they will be limited to a handful of draw plays and receptions out
of the backfield. So they end up with lesser quality backs and are then forced
to pass more. It's a vicious circle.While those Dewey Warren days
(actually, just one year) were fun, I'd much rather have an offense that can
pass for 300 yards and have a running back that can run for 100 yards in a game.
I don't want to see those 550 passing yard games any more.
I think modern college football has shown us that a balanced attack is the most
effective. Leaning to your strengths (pass or run) is fine but it is important
for BYU (a passing team) maintain a decent running game to keep the opposition
off balance. Hopefully BYU will use the run in a more unpredictable way. Last
year you could pretty much guarantee that the 1st down play would be a run up
the middle, 2nd down a run or 2 yd pass, and 3rd down a 2yd pass.
The reason Bronco elevated Brandon to OC is becoming apparent. With a wealth of
talented players, Brandon is setting the table for a very exciting, very
agressive, and very productive offense. No more sitting on the ball at the 20
and counting on a 37-yard FG try to win the game for you.With Heaps
triggering the offense and Doman calling the shots, this could be the most
exciting offense BYU has had since McMahon and company were lighting up the
scoreboard in 1980.
Doman will be put to test very quickly against an SEC defense in Ole Miss.
September 3rd can't get here soon enough!!
Execution is the key to a successful offense and that takes lots of repetition.
Nice to talk about variety and creativity, but if the plays are not practiced
enough the offensive mistakes will not need much of defense to mire the team in
multiple 3rd down and 20 situations. Boring may be predictible, but when
executed it works. This sounds to much like a BYU recently fired head coach to
give much confidence to me.
The lack of a multiple dimensional offense was what was wrong with the Anae
years. I'm actually amazed that BYU had the five 10 win seasons under his
guidence...and that it took the other conference teams that long to finally pick
his offensive scheme apart. It was admittedly... pitifully predictable and so
lacking in imagination... that it's hard to understand why it
succeeded...especially with the lack of any real passing threat. BYU will never
be a predominantly running team...ever!!! Somehow Anae just couldn't grasp
that. I'd have to attribute the success to great athleticism on the part of the
players...more than Anae's offensive genius. I know that some will say that
BYU actually passed more than it ran the ball... but a down and out schematic
used to set up the run is not...nor ever will be an effective passing attack.
Thank Goodness that Doman can see the difference and won't be afraid to stretch
it out in the multiple passing lanes that BYU teams under Chow and Scovil...
Edward's two best coordinators... previously blazed. It was like day versus
night immediatly after Anae left and Doman took over. Things really are
beginning to click.
Good news from camp! Very tantalizing to hear about the new offense. Hope with
hard work it all comes together so "magic happens".
This will be an exciting season. I'm looking forward to watching every game.
There is plenty of talent on the offensive side of this team. If they can
execute at a high level, they will be very good. 29 practices should be enough
to get them clicking on all cylinders.I'm almost as excited to see
what DuPaix does with the run game, as I am to see what Doman does with the
entire offense. I think we'll see some wrinkles that we have haven't ever seen
Love the fact that Doman has researched plays, is building his library of'em.
This might be the most "out of the box" offense BYU's had in quite
awhile.Surprised that Apo didn't learn much during his redshirt
year. "Swimming out there"? Good thing they're going to get his feet
wet right away, instead of working him in over the year.Still,
swimming your way to being the day's leading receiver is nice news! Can't wait
to see the Jake-Apo show for real. With Hoffman on the opposite side, neither of
these guys can get double-teamed without someone being wide open, somewhere.Judging by what I've read about Ole Miss's tall, fast receivers, BYU's
"short" defense will need practice against Apo & Hoffman.I had a nightmare last night that BYU's inagural independent season was marred
by losses due to questionable ref calls and some key injuries.Now
that that's said (knock on wood), it should be a season to remember (for all the
While Boise State was still playing Division 2, BYU had already been running
this stuff for a generation.Tis Boise who copied BYU.Remember it was Virgil Carter who first implemented the West Coast Offense
with Bill Walsh at Cincinatti. BYU wrote the book on the modern forward pass in
College Football, when teams were still running the Wishbone and I formations.
Three yards and a cloud of dust was the norm. BYU broke the mold and the College
football World followed.It's about time BYU got back to it's roots.
Things got stale in the eighties nineties with Chow. The Detmer years excluded.
Chow needed a change to get back to his roots as well.Let's hope the
flanker returns also, remember the Bellini's? Bring it on.
Gary Patterson is wringing his hands with glee in anticipation.
Love it! I think Apo was the leading receiver today with 55 yds receiving.
Can't wait for him to get up to speed with the offense.
What we saw Saturday was a multi-dimensional West Coast offense designed to make
a defense cover the entire field on every play. And not be predictable.Glad we have a New OC with fresh ideas and creativity, this offense is gonna
be alot of fun to watch this season.
I just hope we can stay pretty injury free, if we can things will be exciting
"They knew exactly what we were going to do, knew what our personnel groups
were going to be all the time," said one player afterwards. "No
more."This was the hallmark of the Anae offense, and no team
knew our offense and could predict our plays better than TCU. I truly, truly
hope than under Doman's reign, teams like TCU will be forced to play us honest.
The hype about the Cougs this year is through the roof! I'm
cautiously optimistic. I can only hope that we're half as good as we are hyped
up to be.One question: Why is Bronco holding open (to the media)
practices, unveiling a new offense?
Sounds great, this should be an exciting and fun season, getting everyone up to
speed will be the chanllenge, but I'm confindent they will be good. Go Cougs.
Best news I've heard in years. Anae's offense was boring, predictable and easy
for teams with quality athletes to defend. I can't wait to see the combination
of aggressive, innovative play calling with highly talented players. This
should be fun!
I can't wait for the season to start in less than a month! This will be a fun
team to watch, and I believe they are a team that could really make some noise.