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Published: Saturday, Aug. 6 2011 11:52 p.m. MDT

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no fit in SG
St.George, Utah

Oh brother, what's left to say about this crazy man.

Hellooo
Salt Lake City, UT

He may be crazy, but it is interesting that the trial did not present any evidence of sexual interaction between Jeffs and the girls. He broke many taboos and laws, but there has not been any proof of sexual assualt, no physical evidence, no testimony by the women (no compliant either). It appears that to the Texas court marriage equals sex even it there is nothing to prove the marriage was consummated in such a way. And, then sentencing is based not on members from his community, but by his opponent's characterizations.

Commonman
HENDERSON, NV

DNA evidence that gives 99.9996% certainty that Jeff's is the father of the 15 year old's child. I believe that is evidence of sexual interaction, unless you are contending that she was in vitro.

sashabill
Morgan Hill, CA

Warren Jeffs, shorn of religious trappings, is another Brian David Mitchell.

Justmythoughts
Richfield, UT

Seriously, ANOTHER story about Warren Jeffs.....enough already. Warren Jeffs and Brian David Mitchell fatigue..........There has got to be something else to write about.

Howard Beal
Provo, UT

Gotta give Texas credit to do what Utah nor Arizona had the guts to do...

hairypatches
Hurricane, UT

I live in Colorado City and I hope that the whole world hears about what has been going on down here for way too long. This man and many of the others that run things here need to be brought to justice for crimes against the innocent who really do not know any other way. As the leaders have said, "They raise their children as calves in a stall." Mindless dumb animals that do not have a voice other than the one that was given to them by their leaders. The leaders' only purpose is for breeding the young girls and culling the young boys. I too wish that Utah and Arizona would do more.

USMCer
POST FALLS, ID

This guy needs to go away for a long time and the rest of his group needs some serious counseling. Question is--what happens to the parents of these young kids who allowed them to be with Jeffs? And knowing what he intended to do? Time will tell.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

I am not a polygamist nor do I ever want to be, but this is not about polygamy, its about sexual abuse of minor children! The two are very different! One more thought: in our society, if a man has many consensual sexual partners he is considered by many to be a "real" man, a badge of honor, but if he happens to be married to more than one woman (consensually), he is considered by many of these same people to be evil! A bit hypocritical isn't it?

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

This story is a bombshell in the rest of the nation. They are wondering how a church leader with present followers of ten thousand people could get away with this for so long.

Hellooo
Salt Lake City, UT

There was no DNA evidence presented in this trial.

jill17
Salt Lake City, UT

Hellooo: are you for reals? Have you read any of the articles, including this one? If a child born to a child isn't enough evidence, do you think it's typical to have child rape recorded? Is that not evidence enough for you? This is the most evidence I've ever seen in a child abuse case. You don't even need th children to tesify, and thank heavens since they've been through enough already and need their space and time to heal. Not everyone can pull off the remarkable testifying that elizabeth smart did.

Justmythoughts: seriousy? So you think the dn should. Just ignore national news stories that have affected our state and people and culture and politics just because there are so many stories of it? They should just start to leave us ignorant? Just like the state remained ignorant of what was happening on the utah border for o long? There's plenty else written u can read. But these articles are making waves and will drastically change how we handle cult leadership and abuse within these communities where little has been known until now.

jill17
Salt Lake City, UT

...and the fact that there are so many similarities about brian david mitchell and warren jeffs, including how they act in court, is enough to make sure several articles are witten about each, because obviously predetors who use religion as a weapon are out there in numbers, and as a public, we must learn. Then future victims will hopefully be fewer, or be saved, or arrests and convictions made more swiftly. Jeffs should have been charged years ago. Mitchels trial should have never taken so long with all of the mental health questioning. We need to learn about the minds of these predators. Keep the stories coming dn. And thank you.

shamrock
Salt Lake City, UT

@Hellooo:

I'm not sure where you got the idea that "there was no DNA evidence presented in this trial." Here's what the Deseret News (and many other media outlets) reported:

"Prosecutors used DNA evidence to show Jeffs fathered a child with a 15-year-old girl and played an audio recording of what they said was him sexually assaulting a 12-year-old. They also played audio recordings in which Jeffs was heard instructing young women on how to please him sexually."

Oatmeal
Woods Cross, UT

The article noted "Books that featured talking animals were banned..."

Wow, Jeffs obviously never read the Old Testament!

opinion 47
SOUTH JORDAN, UT

Helloooo: What polygamist group do you live in? Are you also breaking the law?

Idaho Coug
Meridian, Idaho

It is certainly appropriate to do everything necessary to stop the abuse of children. But I would argue that a 23 year old who has known no other life or way of thinking is being just as abused and manipulated. The brainwashing takes away free will as much as forcing a child into the practice.

jill17
Salt Lake City, UT

My first comment somehow didn't go through
Hellooo: are you for reals? Have you read any of the articles, including this one? If a child born to a child isn't enough evidence, do you think it's typical to have child rape recorded? Is that not evidence enough for you? This is the most evidence I've ever seen in a child abuse case. You don't even need th children to tesify, and thank heavens since they've been through enough already and need their space and time to heal. Not everyone can pull off the remarkable testifying that elizabeth smart did.

Justmythoughts: seriousy? So you think the dn should. Just ignore national news stories that have affected our state and people and culture and politics just because there are so many stories of it? They should just start to leave us ignorant? Just like the state remained ignorant of what was happening on the utah border for o long? There's plenty else written u can read. But these articles are making waves and will drastically change how we handle cult leadership and abuse within these communities where little has been known until now.

justired
Fillmore, UT

i agree with the characterization that this jeffs creep is so similar to brian david mitchell. i didn't realize it until reading about evidence and proceedings in this texas trial.

can you imagine michell with 10,000 followers, but then i don't see how that many people can be stupid enough to follow jeffs. the reason jeffs controls so much money is he can take all of the earnings of his "followers" and give them just enough to subsist on in return, or kick them out with nothing.

payara
OREM, UT

All the wars on earth have deep roots in religion. It would appear to me that many sexual abuses also come out of religion. When will man quit using God as a reason to do harm to others.

What did Jesus say was the greatest of all the commandments? and what was the second commandment he gave?

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