Published: Friday, Aug. 5 2011 12:00 a.m. MDT
Bishop's reservation on the bill was the potential that defense spending might
be cut. He is a tax, borrow and spend Republican when it comes to defense. Jon
Huntsman has said that if you cant find ways to trim defense spending, you
aren't looking, and he is right. Under President Obama and Secretary Gates, at
least $120 billion has been saved on defense spending, including the duplicate
and wasteful jet engine for the F-35, which Bishop (and Mike Lee) wanted. It
makes me wonder who Bishop works for. Defense contractors? It isn't the
people. As for Hatch, he is one of the biggest panderers in the history of
Congress, especially in light of probable defeat in 2012 by the radical right
wing. It is quite disappointing to see that Utah's Republican delegation are
more into hypocritical games than standing firm on doing what is in our best
interest. Maybe if we each had a PAC. I wonder if that would get their
And, even better, work for open primary elections so the party elites and fringe
dwellers can't overwhelm the caucus system and control who is nominated for each
To Esquire: You are correct. It's too bad that the American people can't hire
someone to look after our interests--oh, wait--isn't that what congress was
supposed to do?
I know being a Democrat is Utah is rare but after several years of attending
these caucus meetings I encountered something that just frustrated me - there
was a large family in my precinct that controlled the voting. They were always
the ones voted in to attend county and state conventions. They became the
decision makers - all in one family. Furry1993 is absolutely correct
- we need open primaries.
As an independant, I usually do not attend the caucus meetings. I see now that
I MUST become a card carrying Republican to have a voice about who will be
running in Utah (and probably elected.) I do not agree with all of the platform
of the Republicans, but there is no other way to get solid, thoughtful,
moderates - not fringe - people to become our senators, representatives and
serve in our state government too.Isn't that something? I can't be
independent and be heard here. There is definately something wrong with this
The right to participate in government was purchased at the highest possible
price. Those who complain that the system is "fixed" because the
outcome is different than they wished, show great disrespect to those who made
the freedom to vote possible.In every political contest, only one
person will emerge as the "winner". Only one.The proper
way to influence that outcome is to fully support your candidate. I don't know
how the Democrats choose their candidates, so I can't comment on the process
that they use, but if you're a Republican, that means that you talk to the
people in your precinct BEFORE the caucus. You campaign for your candidate
during the caucus. You talk to those elected to represent your precinct AFTER
the caucus. If your candidate prevails in the nominating convention, you
campaign for him through the primary process and through the general
election.Those who blame the system because they want to reap
without sowing, without weeding, without watering, misunderstand their duty as a
citizen in a republic.Nothing of value is obtained easily.
Caucuses are a complete joke. All of the whackos come out in my neighborhood
and control everything. No matter how hard I try to get the regular joes out to
the meetings, there are never enough. We can all see the result of
that. Legislators that are trying to destroy our very own schools. The very
people they should be fighting for and supporting have now become the enemy. It
makes no sense but that is how the caucuses work. Crazy.
We can start with getting more than 25% to vote in the general election but we
all know why that happens here in Zion where the presiding elders have lost
their influence to encourage the masses to participate. Until the middle class
steps up to take back what the corporate minions have taken then we can expect
more of the same.
@Fury1993 has a point. If you want to have an open Primary system in Utah, then
you need to WORK for it.Under established Utah law, [see Utah Code
20A-8-401 (2) (c)], only party members get to choose their final nominee from
all party candidates to go forward for consideration by all eligible voters in
the General Election. Translation: It is the right of the respective political
parties to "make the rules" on how their respective party nominee is
selected to go forward to a General Election. Those rules include whether
eventual nominees are selected by a direct party Primary Election or via the
Caucus/Convention method.If you want change, then you must become
involved in the party of your choice and that starts with the caucus meetings.
You will not effect change in our Primary Election system by griping about it
from the outside.The only other way is to work to have the Utah Code
changed without working through the respective political party mechanisms. That
means a change is drafted, passed by both the Utah House and Senate, and then
signed by the Governor. Good luck with that one.
You know on this issue I agree with Mike Richards which does not happen often.
The rules as they are now are how you play the game. With that said I also favor
an open primary. Get your name on the ballot and run for office.
Lifelong republican,, Thats what the republican party has become. They protect
the rich and attack the poor, womens rights, workers rights, and even take food
from the mouths of children(Defunding WIC) This is not your parents republican
party. Ronald Reagan couldnt get elected in this crazy climate of right wing
extremists. He would be too moderate. Too much like President Obama.
That's just what I did last time in order to retire Bennett. And I will
go again this time to retire Hatch.
Everyone from Utah should go to the cacaus for the republicans. It is time to do
a tea party obstructions boycott on the radicals and vote out the Senator Lee
tea party radicals. Everyone should continue to go to the republican caucus
until there is a primary.I am going and I will encourage all others in my
neighborhood to go. In light or recent events, it is important for our country
to restore balance. Especially in light of the open caucus threats of retired
I'm reminded of the comment that Obama made to Cantor just a few days after the
2008 election where Obama stated: "Elections have consequences and I
won!"Elections do have consequences as we can see by that 2008
election and the subsequent nonsense from the Dem-controlled WH, House and
Senate. Their contempt for those on the other side of the aisle is what brought
about the change in 2010.You all can thank Obama/Pelosi/Reid for
waking up the silent majority who decided they have had enough and got involved.
2012 will bring about more of the change started in 2010. People are
tired of politicians getting into their wallets without their consent and
spending it on things that they don't agree with.There is a line
drawn in the sand due to the silent majority waking up. You are either for a
Communist America or you are for the COTUS, freedoms and liberties.It's not hard to get elected delegate. I was elected and wasn't even at the
meeting due to being in the hospital.Open primary supporters are
people who can't get their neighbors to elect them as delegates. Sour grapes if
you ask me!
Yes, the caucus system is key. Key to ensuring that extreme radicals are
provided a fast track to power.
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