Quantcast

Comments about ‘Readers' forum: Caucuses are key’

Return to article »

Published: Friday, Aug. 5 2011 12:00 a.m. MDT

Comments
  • Oldest first
  • Newest first
  • Most recommended
Esquire
Springville, UT

Bishop's reservation on the bill was the potential that defense spending might be cut. He is a tax, borrow and spend Republican when it comes to defense. Jon Huntsman has said that if you cant find ways to trim defense spending, you aren't looking, and he is right. Under President Obama and Secretary Gates, at least $120 billion has been saved on defense spending, including the duplicate and wasteful jet engine for the F-35, which Bishop (and Mike Lee) wanted. It makes me wonder who Bishop works for. Defense contractors? It isn't the people. As for Hatch, he is one of the biggest panderers in the history of Congress, especially in light of probable defeat in 2012 by the radical right wing. It is quite disappointing to see that Utah's Republican delegation are more into hypocritical games than standing firm on doing what is in our best interest. Maybe if we each had a PAC. I wonder if that would get their attention.

Furry1993
Somewhere in Utah, UT

And, even better, work for open primary elections so the party elites and fringe dwellers can't overwhelm the caucus system and control who is nominated for each position.

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

To Esquire: You are correct. It's too bad that the American people can't hire someone to look after our interests--oh, wait--isn't that what congress was supposed to do?

Utah Dem
Ogden, UT

I know being a Democrat is Utah is rare but after several years of attending these caucus meetings I encountered something that just frustrated me - there was a large family in my precinct that controlled the voting. They were always the ones voted in to attend county and state conventions. They became the decision makers - all in one family.

Furry1993 is absolutely correct - we need open primaries.

Lane Myer
Salt Lake City, UT

As an independant, I usually do not attend the caucus meetings. I see now that I MUST become a card carrying Republican to have a voice about who will be running in Utah (and probably elected.) I do not agree with all of the platform of the Republicans, but there is no other way to get solid, thoughtful, moderates - not fringe - people to become our senators, representatives and serve in our state government too.

Isn't that something? I can't be independent and be heard here. There is definately something wrong with this picture.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

The right to participate in government was purchased at the highest possible price. Those who complain that the system is "fixed" because the outcome is different than they wished, show great disrespect to those who made the freedom to vote possible.

In every political contest, only one person will emerge as the "winner". Only one.

The proper way to influence that outcome is to fully support your candidate. I don't know how the Democrats choose their candidates, so I can't comment on the process that they use, but if you're a Republican, that means that you talk to the people in your precinct BEFORE the caucus. You campaign for your candidate during the caucus. You talk to those elected to represent your precinct AFTER the caucus. If your candidate prevails in the nominating convention, you campaign for him through the primary process and through the general election.

Those who blame the system because they want to reap without sowing, without weeding, without watering, misunderstand their duty as a citizen in a republic.

Nothing of value is obtained easily.

Lifelong Republican
Orem, UT

Caucuses are a complete joke. All of the whackos come out in my neighborhood and control everything. No matter how hard I try to get the regular joes out to the meetings, there are never enough.

We can all see the result of that. Legislators that are trying to destroy our very own schools. The very people they should be fighting for and supporting have now become the enemy. It makes no sense but that is how the caucuses work. Crazy.

ugottabkidn
Sandy, UT

We can start with getting more than 25% to vote in the general election but we all know why that happens here in Zion where the presiding elders have lost their influence to encourage the masses to participate. Until the middle class steps up to take back what the corporate minions have taken then we can expect more of the same.

VST
Bountiful, UT

@Fury1993 has a point. If you want to have an open Primary system in Utah, then you need to WORK for it.

Under established Utah law, [see Utah Code 20A-8-401 (2) (c)], only party members get to choose their final nominee from all party candidates to go forward for consideration by all eligible voters in the General Election. Translation: It is the right of the respective political parties to "make the rules" on how their respective party nominee is selected to go forward to a General Election. Those rules include whether eventual nominees are selected by a direct party Primary Election or via the Caucus/Convention method.

If you want change, then you must become involved in the party of your choice and that starts with the caucus meetings. You will not effect change in our Primary Election system by griping about it from the outside.

The only other way is to work to have the Utah Code changed without working through the respective political party mechanisms. That means a change is drafted, passed by both the Utah House and Senate, and then signed by the Governor. Good luck with that one.

EJM
Herriman, UT

You know on this issue I agree with Mike Richards which does not happen often. The rules as they are now are how you play the game. With that said I also favor an open primary. Get your name on the ballot and run for office.

homebrew
South Jordan, UT

Lifelong republican,, Thats what the republican party has become. They protect the rich and attack the poor, womens rights, workers rights, and even take food from the mouths of children(Defunding WIC) This is not your parents republican party. Ronald Reagan couldnt get elected in this crazy climate of right wing extremists. He would be too moderate. Too much like President Obama.

tenx
Santa Clara, UT

That's just what I did last time in order to retire
Bennett. And I will go again this time to retire Hatch.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Everyone from Utah should go to the cacaus for the republicans. It is time to do a tea party obstructions boycott on the radicals and vote out the Senator Lee tea party radicals. Everyone should continue to go to the republican caucus until there is a primary.I am going and I will encourage all others in my neighborhood to go. In light or recent events, it is important for our country to restore balance. Especially in light of the open caucus threats of retired governor Palin.

@Charles
the greater outdoors, UT

I'm reminded of the comment that Obama made to Cantor just a few days after the 2008 election where Obama stated: "Elections have consequences and I won!"

Elections do have consequences as we can see by that 2008 election and the subsequent nonsense from the Dem-controlled WH, House and Senate. Their contempt for those on the other side of the aisle is what brought about the change in 2010.

You all can thank Obama/Pelosi/Reid for waking up the silent majority who decided they have had enough and got involved. 2012 will bring about more of the change started in 2010.

People are tired of politicians getting into their wallets without their consent and spending it on things that they don't agree with.

There is a line drawn in the sand due to the silent majority waking up. You are either for a Communist America or you are for the COTUS, freedoms and liberties.

It's not hard to get elected delegate. I was elected and wasn't even at the meeting due to being in the hospital.

Open primary supporters are people who can't get their neighbors to elect them as delegates. Sour grapes if you ask me!

one old man
Ogden, UT

Yes, the caucus system is key. Key to ensuring that extreme radicals are provided a fast track to power.

to comment

DeseretNews.com encourages a civil dialogue among its readers. We welcome your thoughtful comments.
About comments