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Published: Thursday, Aug. 4 2011 1:29 a.m. MDT

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Coug
Pleasant Grove, UT

Anyone remember the 1994 movie "Blue Chips"? Nick Nolte plays a college basketball coach who is under pressure to win. J.T. Walsh plays "Happy", a booster who is paying the players under the table. It's rated PG13, and stars Shaq, Anfernee Hardaway, even Bob Cousy makes an appearance.

I don't understand lecherous boosters either. They sound like creepers. Unfulfilled high school athletes trying to smooze college kids in order to increase their self worth. Wanting their phone numbers, texting them, etc. It comes off as desperate and bizarre behavior.

Do the athletes a favor by donating your money and cheering them on...from a distance.

TJ
Eagle Mountain, UT

"We've been receiving phone calls from moms and dads saying they wanted us to recruit their son because they want him in that environment". The Davies Issue, both the way the school handled it and Davies high charactar shown in his continued commitment to BYU have increased interest in BYU from both LDS and Non-LDS athletes.
Guess the Yners were about as wrong about this as anyone could have been.
Honor, Integrity and Class. Gotta love BYU.

CA. reader
Rocklin, CA

Gee, I guess BYU handled the whole thing correctly after all.

TrueBlue
Orem, UT

TJ

shhh, you're killing the theory that being a stellar athlete and having high morale values are incompatible

Laser
Iowa City, IA

Cool!

Who would have guessed that BYU could attract athletes from all faiths with great values to play for the Cougars? Oh, that's right, Bronco did.

Captain L
Provo, UT

CA reader: Yes they did.
No one should doubt that BYU will handle any similar situation the right way. Doing the right thing will always be more important to BYU than winning or getting a recruit etc.

UGradBYUfan
Snowflake, AZ

It sounds like Coach Mendenhall has the right perspective, by staying with the current ratio of LDS vs non-LDS players. I think that could have been the undoing of Crowton. He may have tried to increase the number of non-LDS player too much. We can only hope that the non-LDS players quality does increase. Recruiting is really an inexact science to say the least. Physical tools don't always translate into superior play on the field. But, whether the quality of non-LDS players increases or not, if BYU holds onto their high standards for the students/athletes, things will go well for the University as a whole.

thewholetruth
West Jordan, UT

Don't overlook: The balance of this whole equation has to include the sudden appearance of some highly profiled "LDS" names being brandished on the national stage--escalating late last year til now--all coinciding with the sudden surge in recruits knocking on the Y's door. A considerable number of Americans have overcome prejudice and pride or at least are beginning to get over the 'Mormon' stumbling-block/issue.
Names of especially current prominence, who've recently given further definition to the face of the LDS faith of course have to include Romney, Huntsman, Beck (Glenn, who has millions of enthusiastic, mostly non-LDS followers); add to this current mix the old trusted names of Dale Murphy, Steve Young, Trevor Matich, (gulp) Harry Reid, Orrin Hatch, and numerous others, all have to be having some influence in the thinking of non-LDS athletes and their parents...

thebigsamoan
Richmond, VA

BYU's unique environment and the exposure with it's partnership with ESPN will no doubt attract some non-member kids who share the same values. But, if they start out with a bang and become wildly successful, then who knows? Their recruiting possibilities just might be unlimited.

The future is very bright for both Cougar and Ute football! Go Cougs! and please don't underestimate Coach W and the boys in red!

Go Utes too! Kick some Pac 12 tails and show them what Utah football is like! And don't settle for just sniffing the Rose. Pluck the dang thing and bring it home. Imagine how sweet that'll be if you can still do it after a shellacking by those unathletic sunday school boys down south on 9/17, heh? LOL, j/k guys! I love the Utes too...I just love the Cougs a bit more!

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

Lest anyone mistake or distort our intentions, Coach Mendenhall is looking for individuals who are committed to conforming to high standards. The fact that there are non-LDS athletes that fit the mold is pleasant, but it is not a surprise. The fact that some are excellent athletes is just that much better.

Athletes, LDS and otherwise, who are willing to conform will not only stay in school, but also be more likely to sacrifice self for team. As opposed to the self-centered sense of entitlement that so frequently accompanies the greatest of the athletic capabilities, team unity can be the equalizing factor. When your opponent is bigger, stronger, faster, individual and team disciple can still win the day.

Especially when the margin of difference grows incrimentally smaller.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Wait a minute! Does this mean that not all college atheltes want to act like hoodlums, drunks and sex addicts? I guess there is hope for the human race after all! Isn't it great that there is still a school where higher standards are willingly accepted. embraced and appreciated?

Shooter_McGavin
Las Vegas, NV

BYU -- The nice kid that your parents always wanted you to bring home, but you'd rather go out with the flashy sports guy (Ohio State or USC), or the unintelligent bad-boy (Utah).

Ragnar Danneskjold
Bountiful, UT

"I don't know that the amount of LDS to non-LDS kids we will sign will change significantly," Doman explained. "But the pool of non-LDS kids who are looking for a faith-based institution with high academics has increased significantly for us."

Why wouldn't the number of LDS to non-LDS signings go up then? Does BYU want to stick to a member quota on the team or something? Are the non LDS kids not necessarily great athletes?
Don't bring up Crowton in your response. I think what he did was down play the honor code; what this article is arguing, is that more non members want to attend BYU BECAUSE of the honor code and standards. So why won't those kids be more accepted?
Honestly, this is in no way a knock on BYU. I am just curious as to why they wouldn't expect the makeup of the team to change with the change in the makeup of interested students?

Big Daddy Utah
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

I have no problem with your honor code. It is your school and you can have all the rules you want. What I did not agree with was the way you paraded Brandon Davies personal life to then entire country. You could have simply said Brandon Davies broke the honor code and is no longer a student at BYU, case closed. If I was Brandon (and his girlfriend) I would run as far as I could from your institution.

dallas realist
rockwall, texas

@ big daddy
if you recall correctly then you know that ALL the school said was that brandon davies broke the honor code. that is all that was said by them. the media is who brought everything else out.

Vegas
Las Vegas, NV

@Big Daddy

Umm, that IS all that BYU said. They never went into details. It was other students in the know who disclosed the nature of the violation (possibly the girl herself).

junkmail
Salt Lake City, UT

Ragnar,

Presumably, as the pool of interested non-LDS students increases with more exposure, so would the pool of interested LDS students. The pie will remain the same size, and the number of available ingredients are increasing at similar rates, there's no reason to expect that the makeup of the pie will change significantly.

Obviously, BYU doesn't accept every non-LDS student athlete who wants to play here. No reason to expect that to change.

Johnny Triumph
American Fork, UT

Isn't it amazing that morals win out in the end? For all the nay-sayers in the Brandon Davies suspension it's one more example that the good guys will win. It might not be on the field or court, but good will win out.

RepresentBlue
West Jordan, UT

@Ragnar

I doubt there is any sort of quota as you suggest, although it is an LDS institution whose mission is primarily to provide secular and spiritual education for members of the LDS faith, and the athletics programs are designed to support that mission, as well as provide a missionary tool for the LDS church overall. Having said all that, I would expect there is some desire to recruit *mostly* LDS athletes, though certainly there has been and always will be a place for non-LDS athletes - many of whom actually end up joining the church as a result (see Ty Detmer, Curtis Brown, etc).

RepresentBlue
West Jordan, UT

@Big Daddy Utah

If you really paid attention to the whole Brandon Davies situation and were not just looking to find fault with BYU you would know the way you suggest they should have handled it is EXACTLY the way they DID handle it. The AD's office simply announced that Brandon Davies was suspended from the team for violation of the school's honor code. That's it. They did not give any specific details on the nature of the violation nor the identity of the girlfriend, and they repeatedly declined to comment when asked by the media for further details, citing the privacy of all those involved. Of course the media was able to find out what happened by interviewing other people outside of the BYU administration and publicize it all over the country because of the intense interest surrounding BYU at the time, but it is not fair to fault BYU for that. No matter how BYU had chosen to handle it there was always going to be those, like yourself, who would criticize them so it was a no-win situation for them, but the majority of response to the way they handled it has been positive.

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