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Published: Monday, Aug. 1 2011 1:00 p.m. MDT

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Rocket Science
Brigham City, UT

Some believe a normal college experience involves drinking despite the fact that many college students are under age. Breaking the law seems to be OK if it is binge drinking and at college. I'm glad BYU and a few other schools have a different standard.

It is interesting that the U has had to do things to try to control persons bringing alcohol into Rice Eccles Stadium in order to try to avoid the offense those persons gave to others of their own fans. Attendance was down some years ago in part due to the oout of control drunken fans offending other U fans. I beleive the attendance has been up since they instituted more strict alcohol rules at U games.

It is nice that alcohol is not a worry at Level Edwards Stadium, except of course when a few U fans attend, bring in alcohol and unfortunately give other U fans a bad reputation.

Murray, UT

Voice of unreason,
Are you trying to tell me that drinking is more dangerous than something like... hmm.. say.. Sugar? or Salt? Give me the statistics of people who die from heart disease realated to obiesity and then compare them with your DUI numbers.

Mcallen, TX


No difference. Someone high on salt ran over my dog. My neighbors were divorced because the wife was beaten by her drunken sugar addicted husband.

Holladay, UT

Fact is, no one cares about these rankings. When students apply to schools, they want the one that will give them the best job and the best training. In that regard, most schools in Utah aren't even in the top 20 in most categories.

I'll take my stone cold degree from Stanford over anything BYU has to offer.

Murray, UT

worf that was hilarious! you seriously have me laughing. That has an awesome ring to it... Drunken Sugar Addict husband. High on Salt. Hilarious! (Ironically some bathing salt was taken off the market a couple months ago because kids were getting high on it).

goochland, va

congrats cougars!!

Rocket Science
Brigham City, UT

Again I find it interesting how some persons are anti BYU regardless of what the topic is. This is just something that Princeton decided to publish, no competition just information. For Stone cold sober, BYU would always expect to be one of the best. As for sports teams there is always a hope to be among the best but never at the expense of other standards.

Just a question for all the anti BYU crowd. If you don't care, Im surprised you enven read the article - but what do you have against BYU? I'd like to know. If it is your favorite sports teams are Utah, Utah State, etc. I understand but other than competition in NCAA atheletics what do you have against BYU?

Tad Walch

Isred and Rogerdpack2 bring up a good question. Do schools want or not want to be known as party schools?
The fact is the title is unwanted, as proved yesterday by Ohio University's swift reaction to being named the top party school.
ABC reported: "Ohio University's party reputation has long vexed administrators at the riverside school of about 20,000 students."
In The Chronicle of Higher Education, a professor wrote, "my university topped the party-school list, to my chagrin."
ABC5 reported, "Ohio University is the place to party, according to the most recent rankings from the Princeton Review. But the universitys president isnt too happy with that distinction."
(Ohio has been among the top 10 on the party list 12 times since 1997.)
The president's email to faculty and staff: "In the past five years, we have enacted programs and policy changes that have helped reduce instances of high-risk behavior at Ohio University including a 49 percent decrease in alcohol-related judicial violations and an 8 percent decrease in self-reported high-risk drinking by our students."
Ohio's reaction is typical of schools that hit the party list.

Highland, UT

@ Goleta,

You're just bitter that BYU didn't accept you

Mcallen, TX

@WoahTurbo, you're easily amused. Only a fool would defend alcohol. Alcohol has hurt more people than all wars put together.

@Rocket Science--don't have any answers, but some people are slow with cognitive reasoning.

A voice of Reason
Salt Lake City, UT


You said, "Are you trying to tell me that drinking is more dangerous than something like... hmm.. say.. Sugar? or Salt? Give me the statistics of people who die from heart disease realated to obiesity and then compare them with your DUI numbers."

The problem is that your analogy is false, where mine provided an accurate description of what is actually taking place.

A DUI-caused accident can result in someone else being killed.

All obesity-related Heart Disease deaths are self inflicted.

"No Doctor, my health problems are because my wife fed me an unhealthy diet" - See the problem? Being drunk certainly will self-inflict, but the primary reason why it concerns others is this- We form our government to protect us. Anytime someones actions infringe these rights it most certainly warrants the public interest and gives cause for using law and enforcement to protect our rights.

As much as people hate drinking laws in Utah, we have a far superior system- allow people to legitimately do what they want in their home, but in public strict monitoring and regulation and when violated, strict enforcement. It preserves individual freedom and holds people to accountability.


When Michigan raised the drinking age to 21 I was in college and got punched in the face because I voted for the age hike. I congratulate BYU and may your streak continue for many years.

Bakersfield, CA

Congrats to BYU for this distinction.
I went from '69-71, not fully thrilled to be going to a "country" Utah school when I left southern Cal at the cool age of 17. Two years later, with a little maturity and perspective, I was sad that I had to endure my junior year at UC Northridge (SFVSC). It was the epitome of hedonism and amoral academia, from profs to students.

The value of my education at the Y was inestimable. For those who follow the wisdom of the Writer of Proverbs, we only want His accolades. All you other party schools, hope you were educated in something of eternal value.

Wally West

re: Red Headed Stranger | 9:50 p.m. Aug. 1, 2011

Az St coeds >>> BYU coeds.

re: Cats @ 9:04 a.m.

Have you heard there is at least an ounce of truth in every pound of sarcasm?

Sandy, UT

"Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life" --- Dean Wormer, Faber College

Kent Larsen
New York, New York

Thanks to Tad for the mention in this article.

I did try to "top" the description from two years ago -- on the Notes from All Over section on Times and Seasons.

I don't know if I was successful or not in toping the previous description. But it was fun trying.

Hank Pym

re: Goleta | 1:07 p.m. Aug. 2, 2011

I don't know about that. I'd bet kids apply to Cal St Chico & FL State simply because of their reps as party schools.

Sugar City, ID

I'd be interested to know what universities have the lowest rates of STDs.

Show Low, AZ

BYU is boring? How exciting can it be to wake up in the morning with a drink-induced headache, an overpowering scent of stale alcohol and vomit, and absolutely no idea about why you're clinging to a stuffed Barney doll and where your shirt went. Actually, I guess trying to find your way back to your dorm/apartment might be very exciting.

Castle Rock, CO

I never saw alcohol my entire time there.

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