I never saw alcohol my entire time there.
BYU is boring? How exciting can it be to wake up in the morning with a
drink-induced headache, an overpowering scent of stale alcohol and vomit, and
absolutely no idea about why you're clinging to a stuffed Barney doll and where
your shirt went. Actually, I guess trying to find your way back to your
dorm/apartment might be very exciting.
I'd be interested to know what universities have the lowest rates of STDs.
re: Goleta | 1:07 p.m. Aug. 2, 2011 I don't know about that. I'd bet
kids apply to Cal St Chico & FL State simply because of their reps as party
Thanks to Tad for the mention in this article.I did try to
"top" the description from two years ago -- on the Notes from All Over
section on Times and Seasons.I don't know if I was successful or not
in toping the previous description. But it was fun trying.
"Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life" --- Dean Wormer,
re: Red Headed Stranger | 9:50 p.m. Aug. 1, 2011 Az St coeds
>>> BYU coeds.re: Cats @ 9:04 a.m. Have you
heard there is at least an ounce of truth in every pound of sarcasm?
Congrats to BYU for this distinction. I went from '69-71, not fully
thrilled to be going to a "country" Utah school when I left southern
Cal at the cool age of 17. Two years later, with a little maturity and
perspective, I was sad that I had to endure my junior year at UC Northridge
(SFVSC). It was the epitome of hedonism and amoral academia, from profs to
students.The value of my education at the Y was inestimable. For
those who follow the wisdom of the Writer of Proverbs, we only want His
accolades. All you other party schools, hope you were educated in something of
When Michigan raised the drinking age to 21 I was in college and got punched in
the face because I voted for the age hike. I congratulate BYU and may your
streak continue for many years.
WoahTurbo:You said, "Are you trying to tell me that drinking is
more dangerous than something like... hmm.. say.. Sugar? or Salt? Give me the
statistics of people who die from heart disease realated to obiesity and then
compare them with your DUI numbers."The problem is that your
analogy is false, where mine provided an accurate description of what is
actually taking place.A DUI-caused accident can result in someone
else being killed.All obesity-related Heart Disease deaths are self
inflicted."No Doctor, my health problems are because my wife
fed me an unhealthy diet" - See the problem? Being drunk certainly will
self-inflict, but the primary reason why it concerns others is this- We form our
government to protect us. Anytime someones actions infringe these rights it most
certainly warrants the public interest and gives cause for using law and
enforcement to protect our rights.As much as people hate drinking
laws in Utah, we have a far superior system- allow people to legitimately do
what they want in their home, but in public strict monitoring and regulation and
when violated, strict enforcement. It preserves individual freedom and holds
people to accountability.
@WoahTurbo, you're easily amused. Only a fool would defend alcohol. Alcohol has
hurt more people than all wars put together.@Rocket Science--don't
have any answers, but some people are slow with cognitive reasoning.
@ Goleta,You're just bitter that BYU didn't accept you
Isred and Rogerdpack2 bring up a good question. Do schools want or not want to
be known as party schools?The fact is the title is unwanted, as proved
yesterday by Ohio University's swift reaction to being named the top party
school.ABC reported: "Ohio University's party reputation has long
vexed administrators at the riverside school of about 20,000 students."In The Chronicle of Higher Education, a professor wrote, "my university
topped the party-school list, to my chagrin."ABC5 reported,
"Ohio University is the place to party, according to the most recent
rankings from the Princeton Review. But the universitys president isnt too happy
with that distinction."(Ohio has been among the top 10 on the party
list 12 times since 1997.) The president's email to faculty and staff:
"In the past five years, we have enacted programs and policy changes that
have helped reduce instances of high-risk behavior at Ohio University including
a 49 percent decrease in alcohol-related judicial violations and an 8 percent
decrease in self-reported high-risk drinking by our students." Ohio's
reaction is typical of schools that hit the party list.
Again I find it interesting how some persons are anti BYU regardless of what the
topic is. This is just something that Princeton decided to publish, no
competition just information. For Stone cold sober, BYU would always expect to
be one of the best. As for sports teams there is always a hope to be among the
best but never at the expense of other standards.Just a question for
all the anti BYU crowd. If you don't care, Im surprised you enven read the
article - but what do you have against BYU? I'd like to know. If it is your
favorite sports teams are Utah, Utah State, etc. I understand but other than
competition in NCAA atheletics what do you have against BYU?
worf that was hilarious! you seriously have me laughing. That has an awesome
ring to it... Drunken Sugar Addict husband. High on Salt. Hilarious! (Ironically
some bathing salt was taken off the market a couple months ago because kids were
getting high on it).
Fact is, no one cares about these rankings. When students apply to schools, they
want the one that will give them the best job and the best training. In that
regard, most schools in Utah aren't even in the top 20 in most categories. I'll take my stone cold degree from Stanford over anything BYU has to
@WoahTurbo:No difference. Someone high on salt ran over my dog. My
neighbors were divorced because the wife was beaten by her drunken sugar
Voice of unreason,Are you trying to tell me that drinking is more
dangerous than something like... hmm.. say.. Sugar? or Salt? Give me the
statistics of people who die from heart disease realated to obiesity and then
compare them with your DUI numbers.
Some believe a normal college experience involves drinking despite the fact that
many college students are under age. Breaking the law seems to be OK if it is
binge drinking and at college. I'm glad BYU and a few other schools have a
different standard.It is interesting that the U has had to do things
to try to control persons bringing alcohol into Rice Eccles Stadium in order to
try to avoid the offense those persons gave to others of their own fans.
Attendance was down some years ago in part due to the oout of control drunken
fans offending other U fans. I beleive the attendance has been up since they
instituted more strict alcohol rules at U games.It is nice that
alcohol is not a worry at Level Edwards Stadium, except of course when a few U
fans attend, bring in alcohol and unfortunately give other U fans a bad
It's amazing how ten thousand colleges can be permissive with drinking,sex,
attire, and partying. Than with just one college with an honor code, the wrath
of Chris B is kindled. Doesn't make sense.
BYU earns my respect for this distinction. I'm a graduate of the University of
Colorado (graduate school). What passes for undergraduate education at CU is a
laughable. I'd never send my child to CU due to the prevailing party
atmosphere there. The discussion about sports is just silly.
Seriously, who cares about the sports teams? I could not care less. I
attended university to get an education.
bluecoug89: Agreed!bikeboy: "Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way
to go through life." - GREAT quote!-------Any
rational that drinking doesn't risk damaging and/or deadly affects on this world
is a rational of denial. People will say 'but not everyone gets drunk and does
something stupid'. My reply, 'yes, but 1) So many of them do, and 2) Your
ability to make decisions decreases with each drink, increasing your level of
intoxication; therefore making the first sip a risk and each following swallow
an even greater risk each time.'-It's a game of Russian
Roulette. Not everyone gets hurts so it's okay, right?What a perfect
analogy... I think Russian Roulette works perfectly! See, I simply won't sit at
that table, because I believe that it's about as illogical as it gets. The only
real problem with my analogy is that Russian Roulette isn't as bad as drinking-
you don't point the gun at people not sitting at the table. Drinking and driving
does exactly that.I kindly suggest that no one offer a
counterargument my point, unless they intend on posting the number of DUI
related deaths recorded in the world each year before their argument.
I need to get my BYU friends to take this survey! It might help knock BYU out
of the #1 spot!
Thanks for the spelling lesson Riverton Cougar, I appreciate it. And yes Cats, I
never miss a chance to get a jab in there. I'm not trying to feel better about
myself, I just enjoy ruffling the feathers of the self righteous, naive, close
minded people that dominates utah county. It gives me the warm fuzzies ;)
There are three other colleges where use of Demon Reefer is lower than BYU? I'm
shocked! Shocked, I tell you!Good on you BYU students! As Dean
Wormer said, "Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life."
"aw... to live in the bubble that is utah county... who needs alcohol when
you have Dr Pepper and Mtn Dew? Mormons pound soda harder than an alcoholic
pounds beer and liquor. mmmmm! Sugar and Caffiene!"First of
all, it's spelled "caffeine". Second, I can tell you from personal
experience that you are completely wrong. While some are addicted to caffeine,
many Mormons avoid caffeine and soda, so the generalized statement you make is
like saying all Germans are in favor of genocide. No drinks on BYU campus even
contain caffeine. What an ignorant thing to say.Chris B, hopefully
we can both agree that there are more important things in life than your school
having "the best" athletes. Besides, for being the 25th most
prestigious football program of all time with a national championship and 3x as
many top 25 finishes as the U, I'd say BYU is doing well at landing great
athletes! Are they "the best"? Probably not, but they have their
freedom from addiction and guilt and shame that comes from doing the stupid
things college students do at almost every other university.
Dear WoahTurbo: Just can pass up a chance to bash BYU and Mormons, can you. Are
you trying to feel better about yourself?
With the high cost of a college education, I can't imagine any parents, LDS or
not, happy to send their kids to a college identified as the
@ A voice of reason,It was a funny comment but it's true. I have
lived outside of "the bubble" as people call it and what he said is
pretty true. I have seen people beat on their families first hand, I have seen
the streets literally covered at night with drunk men sleeping with the dogs
because they weren't allowed home if they were drunk, I have seen people
literally urinate all over themselves, and I have seen people make complete
fools of themselves and not even realize it, all because they were drunk. Why
would you want to do that to yourself? You might as well beat yourself across
the head with a hammer. At least you're not hurting those you love, just
I love how everyone is trying to bash BYU and being stone cold sober but didn't
you guys ever stop to think that we want that? That we're proud of that? You
guys make it sound like it was some kind of accident or something. Nothing you
guys say can and will make us feel bad. It's an uphill battle that you will
aw... to live in the bubble that is utah county... who needs alcohol when you
have Dr Pepper and Mtn Dew? Mormons pound soda harder than an alcoholic pounds
beer and liquor. mmmmm! Sugar and Caffiene!
congratulates BYU on this landmark achievement. Alcohol consumption
goes on at BYU -- any BYU bishop can give you the statistics. However, BYU and
to a lesser degree UVU both demonstrate less hypocrisy on alcohol than other
universities, which decry for the record illicit drug abuse and yet regard binge
drinking among under age students as a cute f rite of passage. How long will
that fly in the face of logic?
I've been to a lot of sporting events in Provo and I've come to the conclusion
who needs alcohol when you've got all that sugar to pass around???!
To Mountanman, Wow man... like... that would save a lot money... dude! Where's
my hammer?lol, I don't think I've read a funnier comment on here
Good job on not drinking BYU students. Now just keep from lighting each other
on fire at abandoned mines.
@ Red Headed Stranger: Thanks for your comments and pointing out the realities
of alcohol abuse. I too have see the tragedies of alcohol abuse and the lives
of many talented young people damaged. A school that teaches responsibility,
temperance, and high standards in all aspects of life including academics is to
why is this being reported? THey should be number one sober uni. A bigger story
would be if they weren't.
Chris B,- An intoxicated driver hit my mom's car. Her neck moved
forward so much she had lipstick on her shirt. - An intoxicated driver
ran through an intersection at 50 mph hitting my second cousin and killed his
wife and two children under 5.- The grandmother who raised my wife was an
alcoholic. I will withhold the details, but my future wife was subject to
repeated public humiliation because of the things her grandmother did.-
Two different women with whom I shared an office both had teen age daughters who
got drunk at parties and were raped. Both young women had significant
subsequent mental, family and legal problems.- I knew an engineer who had
transferred from Arizona State to BYU. He said that the academic competition at
the Y was much harder than ASU. In Arizona his classmates were bleary eyed and
hungover.I went to college to learn. I turned down an academic
scholarship at the University of Washington to be in a place where academics was
taken seriously, not the grotesque bacchanalia you seem to think is
"normal." I had fun, I had girlfriends and I studied hard. Please
leave things you don't understand alone.
Why would anyone with a brain drink alcohol? Why not just hit yourself in the
head with a hammer everyday? The effects are about the same and think of the
money you would save!
Chris B:1) I am one of the most sports illiterate persons on this
entire planet. I know maybe 10 names in sports but I hardly know who they are...
I only hear them frequently. And you're trying to tell me that Jimmer isn't a
top athlete? lol, even I know otherwise.2) I grew up asking 'what
does football have to do with education?' - No offense intended to sports lovers
out there... but I'm still asking that question.My second point
wasn't really to make the sports point I often question... I'm relating it to
this point... a school full of students who don't drink has a LOT more to do
with education than one full of binging, sex-craved, party-life, behaviors...
which are contrary to what 'growing up and taking responsibility' have anything
to do with.BYU getting this award is a mark of honor in a dwindling
society. I respect this label and hope it continues.
What does all this mean? To me it means my kid fought in Iraq so your kids can
party in college,but not at BYU. For which I express my deep gratitude for both
my son's and for BYU's honor. Something the world could certainly use more of.
re: Mormon Ute | 2:15 p.m. Aug. 1, 2011 "In fact, I think the
gap is widening between BYU and the rest of the universities."Other schools are drinking more to cope w/ the new independent attitude?
rodgerdpack2Many students look for schools with a party reputation but I
doubt you will find any school administrators who will say that they are happy
that their school has a party reputation. Why? Because they are grown up and
mature and have fully functional brains.As a parent, if you want your kids
to party and be immoral, you have some pretty serious issues of your own to deal
with. The college in LaCrosse Wi. is near a popular park that
borders the Missisippi river. In the past several years at least 3 students have
been so drunk that they have fallen into the river and drown. A student during
frat initiations at USU got so drunk a few years ago he died of alcohol
poisoning. I wonder if the parents of all of the students who have died from
alcohol or drugs or contracted HIV from "partying" with infected
partners wish their children had decided on BYU?But you go ahead and
send your kids to the party schools. Odds are they won't be one of the ones who
die or are messed up for the rest of their lives. Willing to take the chance
with your kids?
@Dutchman:Yes, BYU is the #1 stone cold sober university, and as a member of the
LDS church, I would expect nothing less. That being said, the University of
Utah was just ranked #1 in technical start up companies, passing up the likes of
MIT and the California Institute of Technology. Pretty great to have two
universities that lead the nation.
It makes me wonder has the poll only been going on for 14 years or did someone
else have the title of stone-cold sober ahead of BYU 15 yrs ago?
OMG !!! I can't believe that so many people have gone for the throat of BYU, why
is it such a grevious sin to be the #1 stone cold sober school in the nation for
14 years running? I would remind people after all this is a church school and
probably the #1 church school in the nation, what would it say if this church
founded school was the #1 party school in the nation or the school with the most
cases of SSD's or the school with the most drug related deaths or some other
badge of dishonor that other schools are labeled with. I would remind people
that no one forces the students to attend BYU and if they want they are free to
go to school elsewhere. I can think of alot worse titles to claim besides the #1
stone cold sober school in the nation for 14 years running, no, I say wear that
badge of honor with pride!!! Brigham Young is smiling down on you with pride!!
A badge to be worn with honor. BYU rocks!
Most classless fans and most band wagon fans goes to Utah. No other school came
Although BYU wasn't my school of choice, having a stone cold sober school is a
whole lot better, in my opinion, than having a school that turns it head on all
of the underaged drinking. Afterall, many colleges student are not even old
enough to legally drink in most States!
crisb;And again we see another reason BYU will ever be a national
contender in basketball and footballFor some reason, more top
athletes are wanting to go to college where they can have a low peer pressure
experience and maintain some self respect.Sounds like a reasonable
desire.Stay classy and act mature while competing for national
titles in football, basketball and other sports.or...Attend a school where alcohol and drug abuse abound. Where sexual promiscuity
is encouraged and women are valued mostly for their lack of moral values and
willingness to "party in a morals free environment". Many will have
guilt, low self-esteem and suffer from depression their entire lives because of
the way these boys, who desired this type of fun, treated them while in college.
But; what the heck. It's all part of the college experience that they are
entitled to right? Underage drinking(since most won't be legal drinkers until
they are seniors), easily obtained "illegal substances" and women to
take advantage of while they are impaired and unable to make rational decisions.
Well at least their #1 stone cold will continue... And they will be
greatful for it. Classy, don't you think?
I don't think the other schools are saddened to be #1 party schools are they?
I clink my glass of milk to BYU! A distinction to be proud of for the sober and
completely misunderstood by the inebriated.
Congratulations BYU! Nothing wrong with being sober. It keeps the air med
helicopter from the U of U from coming to the rescue. By the way, the U will
continue its break out research on how cold stone caverns can hold huge
resevoirs of natural gas that will lead us to energy independence.
The only thing that Chris B cares about is football or basketball and he has a
very short memory with the Y beating the u badly in bball and almost had the
upset of the century in football this past year. It seems that the Y has no
problem in getting quality players who want to remember their college days and
experiences (Like who has the best team in whatever sport). Go ahead
and make fun of be #1 in stone cold sober, while u try to find what u are #1 in
anything. u will always be "middle of the pack" in everything.
Jimmer didn't seem to mind.
I'm glad they got this "prestigious" recognition but at the same how
"boring"?But I guess it has it's advantages. You don't
have to buy liquor to have a party, just jello.
"This year, the unwanted title of partyingest campus goes to Ohio
University-Athens."This is the Dnews' byu/LDS bias shining
through. Those "party-schools" take pride in taking that top ranking,
it is hardly "unwanted".
And again we see byu byu will never be a national contender in basketball or
footballFor some reason, top athletes just want to have a normal
college experience.Sounds like a reasonable desire.Stay
in the 19th century or compete for national titles(in something people care
about like football or basketball) or...continue with
your dominance as #1 stone cold.Well at least their #1 stone cold
Congratulations BYU! I don't expect the Y to relenquish this title any time
soon. In fact, I think the gap is widening between BYU and the rest of the