Comments about ‘BYU again No. 1 stone-cold sober’

Return to article »

Published: Monday, Aug. 1 2011 1:00 p.m. MDT

  • Oldest first
  • Newest first
  • Most recommended
Hayden, ID

Why would anyone with a brain drink alcohol? Why not just hit yourself in the head with a hammer everyday? The effects are about the same and think of the money you would save!

Red Headed Stranger
Billy Bobs, TX

Chris B,

- An intoxicated driver hit my mom's car. Her neck moved forward so much she had lipstick on her shirt.
- An intoxicated driver ran through an intersection at 50 mph hitting my second cousin and killed his wife and two children under 5.
- The grandmother who raised my wife was an alcoholic. I will withhold the details, but my future wife was subject to repeated public humiliation because of the things her grandmother did.
- Two different women with whom I shared an office both had teen age daughters who got drunk at parties and were raped. Both young women had significant subsequent mental, family and legal problems.
- I knew an engineer who had transferred from Arizona State to BYU. He said that the academic competition at the Y was much harder than ASU. In Arizona his classmates were bleary eyed and hungover.

I went to college to learn. I turned down an academic scholarship at the University of Washington to be in a place where academics was taken seriously, not the grotesque bacchanalia you seem to think is "normal." I had fun, I had girlfriends and I studied hard. Please leave things you don't understand alone.

Corona, CA

why is this being reported? THey should be number one sober uni. A bigger story would be if they weren't.

Chris B's psychiatrist
Iowa City, IA

@ Red Headed Stranger: Thanks for your comments and pointing out the realities of alcohol abuse. I too have see the tragedies of alcohol abuse and the lives of many talented young people damaged. A school that teaches responsibility, temperance, and high standards in all aspects of life including academics is to be commended.

Beverly Hills, CA

Good job on not drinking BYU students. Now just keep from lighting each other on fire at abandoned mines.

A voice of Reason
Salt Lake City, UT

To Mountanman, Wow man... like... that would save a lot money... dude! Where's my hammer?

lol, I don't think I've read a funnier comment on here than yours!

Honor Code
Denver, Colorado

I've been to a lot of sporting events in Provo and I've come to the conclusion who needs alcohol when you've got all that sugar to pass around???!

Provo, UT

congratulates BYU on this landmark achievement.

Alcohol consumption goes on at BYU -- any BYU bishop can give you the statistics. However, BYU and to a lesser degree UVU both demonstrate less hypocrisy on alcohol than other universities, which decry for the record illicit drug abuse and yet regard binge drinking among under age students as a cute f rite of passage. How long will that fly in the face of logic?

Murray, UT

aw... to live in the bubble that is utah county... who needs alcohol when you have Dr Pepper and Mtn Dew? Mormons pound soda harder than an alcoholic pounds beer and liquor. mmmmm! Sugar and Caffiene!

Highland, UT

I love how everyone is trying to bash BYU and being stone cold sober but didn't you guys ever stop to think that we want that? That we're proud of that? You guys make it sound like it was some kind of accident or something. Nothing you guys say can and will make us feel bad. It's an uphill battle that you will NEVER win.

Highland, UT

@ A voice of reason,

It was a funny comment but it's true. I have lived outside of "the bubble" as people call it and what he said is pretty true. I have seen people beat on their families first hand, I have seen the streets literally covered at night with drunk men sleeping with the dogs because they weren't allowed home if they were drunk, I have seen people literally urinate all over themselves, and I have seen people make complete fools of themselves and not even realize it, all because they were drunk. Why would you want to do that to yourself? You might as well beat yourself across the head with a hammer. At least you're not hurting those you love, just yourself.

DD JayMario
American Fork, UT

With the high cost of a college education, I can't imagine any parents, LDS or not, happy to send their kids to a college identified as the "partyingest."

Somewhere in Time, UT

Dear WoahTurbo: Just can pass up a chance to bash BYU and Mormons, can you. Are you trying to feel better about yourself?

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, Utah

"aw... to live in the bubble that is utah county... who needs alcohol when you have Dr Pepper and Mtn Dew? Mormons pound soda harder than an alcoholic pounds beer and liquor. mmmmm! Sugar and Caffiene!"

First of all, it's spelled "caffeine". Second, I can tell you from personal experience that you are completely wrong. While some are addicted to caffeine, many Mormons avoid caffeine and soda, so the generalized statement you make is like saying all Germans are in favor of genocide. No drinks on BYU campus even contain caffeine. What an ignorant thing to say.

Chris B, hopefully we can both agree that there are more important things in life than your school having "the best" athletes. Besides, for being the 25th most prestigious football program of all time with a national championship and 3x as many top 25 finishes as the U, I'd say BYU is doing well at landing great athletes! Are they "the best"? Probably not, but they have their freedom from addiction and guilt and shame that comes from doing the stupid things college students do at almost every other university.

Boise, ID

There are three other colleges where use of Demon Reefer is lower than BYU? I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

Good on you BYU students! As Dean Wormer said, "Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life."

Murray, UT

Thanks for the spelling lesson Riverton Cougar, I appreciate it. And yes Cats, I never miss a chance to get a jab in there. I'm not trying to feel better about myself, I just enjoy ruffling the feathers of the self righteous, naive, close minded people that dominates utah county. It gives me the warm fuzzies ;)


I need to get my BYU friends to take this survey! It might help knock BYU out of the #1 spot!

A voice of Reason
Salt Lake City, UT

bluecoug89: Agreed!

bikeboy: "Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life." - GREAT quote!


Any rational that drinking doesn't risk damaging and/or deadly affects on this world is a rational of denial. People will say 'but not everyone gets drunk and does something stupid'. My reply, 'yes, but 1) So many of them do, and 2) Your ability to make decisions decreases with each drink, increasing your level of intoxication; therefore making the first sip a risk and each following swallow an even greater risk each time.'


It's a game of Russian Roulette. Not everyone gets hurts so it's okay, right?

What a perfect analogy... I think Russian Roulette works perfectly! See, I simply won't sit at that table, because I believe that it's about as illogical as it gets. The only real problem with my analogy is that Russian Roulette isn't as bad as drinking- you don't point the gun at people not sitting at the table. Drinking and driving does exactly that.

I kindly suggest that no one offer a counterargument my point, unless they intend on posting the number of DUI related deaths recorded in the world each year before their argument.

Greenwood Village, CO

BYU earns my respect for this distinction. I'm a graduate of the University of Colorado (graduate school). What passes for undergraduate education at CU is a laughable. I'd never send my child to CU due to the prevailing party atmosphere there.

The discussion about sports is just silly. Seriously, who cares about the sports teams? I could not care less. I attended university to get an education.

Mcallen, TX

It's amazing how ten thousand colleges can be permissive with drinking,sex, attire, and partying. Than with just one college with an honor code, the wrath of Chris B is kindled. Doesn't make sense.

to comment

DeseretNews.com encourages a civil dialogue among its readers. We welcome your thoughtful comments.
About comments