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Published: Sunday, July 31 2011 10:48 p.m. MDT

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standfortruth
MARAMEC, OK

I'm not an Ivy league grad, nor is my spouse but I certainly would not "hold" such a degree against a potential POTUS. The fact that Romney received 2 advanced degrees simultaneously, and with excellent standings, shows not only intellect but discipline and responsibility. How is that held against someone?

Romney's independent job success (independent from his father's business) as well as his education and economic turnaround (large MA budget deficit to sizeable positive balance in a very liberal state) qualify him, IMO, to be our best hope for the change of direction our country desperately needs.

ECR
Burke, VA

"...in the current Tea Party climate of the GOP fancy diplomas could actually hurt a republican candidate's chances of winning the nomination."

This statement was not in ther article but was part of the headline on the cover sheet. I think it is most telling that Tea Party loyalists are fearful (now let's be honest) about anyone with a "fancy diploma." Unfortunately this attitude is prevelant in parts of corporate America and in the highest ranks of our government. Heaven forbid that I would ever promote or support anyone who I perceive to be smarter or more talented than I. Many or most top leaders are often looking for nothing more than "yes men" as part of their organizations. Such an attitude is not only counter productive but it can be dangerous.

So apparently the Tea Party would rather have a president - according to the article - who doesn't have a clue about the details of our nation's history rather than someone who has worked hard to achieve academic excellence. They would rather pontificate about the Constitution on the editorial pages of the DN rather than listen top someone who has studied, and even mastered it. Heaven help us.

Timp
South Jordan, UT

If you're comparing undergraduate educations, like you did w/ Bachman, then Mitt graduated from BYU right??

Hardly an Ivy League education there--

JoeBlow
Miami Area, Fl

While I agree that past Ivy league presidents have not served the country well, I would doubt that it is BECAUSE of their education.

Current T party and right wing GOP seem to disdain education, as if that is the problem.

That speaks volumes.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

After the tea party threw out the tea they left the Boston area. Romney does need to "dumb down" considerably to get on board the right wing angry express.

Flashback
Kearns, UT

Last I heard, and what this article does not point out (how typical) is that Mitt Romney's undergraduate degree came from that little school in Provo named BYU. Not Harvard. His graduate degrees (Masters in Business and a Law Degree) came from Harvard. Of course the article is skewed toward a potential bias about a degree from an Ivy League school. Mr. Boyd did mention Mitt went to Stanford, but failed to mention that it was before his mission and he went to the Y after.

The writer of this article is shading the truth by leaving something out. Every other president and candidate (except Huntsman) mentioned in the article got their Batchelors from the college or university mentioned. The writer didn't say anything about their graduate degrees, if any of them earned them.

A more accurate article that gives all the informatinon would be appreciated next time. Not this article that has an obvious bias and an apparent agenda. This is not news.

Veracity
Morgan, UT

The initial direction of the Tea Party was good in the fact it was demonstrating a new approach to our vast Federal government was required. A new direction or course change was important.

However, the Tea Party has now become too extreme in its direction. Extremism creates a problem within itself. The correct direction is usually found somewhere between both excessive ideologies.

It is evident that Senator Hatch follows the tide. A gentlemen, who in the past, tried to keep paths somewhere in the middle, but was quoted this morning he would not vote for the latest compromise between parties concerning our national debt. He is now a staunch Tea Party follower. This shift demonstrates Senator Hatch is concerned more about his own political career than the direction of the country.

I, for one, will not vote for him or Senator Lee when he is up again.

Just for your suspicions, I am a Republican.

CougarKeith
Roy, UT

Fact: Jon Huntsman Jr. Is NOT a Legitamate candadate, I don't know why the Deseret News gives him so much coverage, he is a "Nowhere Man" in this coming election! Also why would a "Harvard Degree" hurt a man like Romney? He isn't a typical Democratic Liberal, he is a CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN! You see, the main stream media is going to try and destroy him at every turn. Not right, not fair, Obama is still the main stream media's guy? I just don't get it?

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

Mitt Romney on Job creation:
From 2003-2007 job growth....0.9%.
In rankings with the rest of the country...MA was 47th in Job creation when Mitt Romney was there.
- Think Progress Travis Waldron 06/02/11

ute alumni
Tengoku, UT

ECR:So apparently the Tea Party would rather have a president - according to the article - who doesn't have a clue about the details of our nation's history rather than someone who has worked hard to achieve academic excellence. They would rather pontificate about the Constitution on the editorial pages of the DN rather than listen top someone who has studied, and even mastered it. Heaven help us.

Apparently it isn't just the tea party. o got elected and he hasn't a clue. You're right, heaven help us.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

It's not the Harvard part of Mitt's education that worries people. It's the BYU part.

metamoracoug
metamora, IL

Timp: I grew up in Minnesota. Comparing BYU to Winona State is kind of like comparing Canada's economy to French Guiana's -- there really is nothing to compare. I'm not saying that Bachman couldn't get a good education at WSU, but the likelihood is significantly reduced -- especially since there is so much more partying going on there as compared to the Y.

ER in EUR
Belgrade, Serbia

So let me get this straight. If you are un-informed & undereducated then you will appeal to more Tea Partiers? Yeah, we don't want any smarty-pants running our country, do we?

You know what is funny? Whenever I think of Sarah Palin, I always see Tina Fey instead of SP. I think that is because TF highlights the things about SP and M. Bachmann that really scare me. Things like the gaffe used at the beginning of this article that illustrates the ignorance of some...some... Tea Party candidates. But definitely Bachmann and Palin.

Do we want someone who might not know much about world history, maybe light on international politics and definitely short on economic theory? No, I didn't think so.

Do we want someone who has run an executive office (I know, Palin, for a few months and then maybe under investigation) but has really worked with money, who understands economics. I am not saying we have to elect Romney, but geez, someone who has a brain in their head.

gogogoff
Orem, UT

Nice try to slander, but the TEA is NOT anti educated, they on avg have the highest % of degree holders, of any party.

The TEA is anti Elitist, NOT anti Educated.

metamoracoug
metamora, IL

ER in EUR: Well, the last two "smarty pants" -- grads of Yale & Columbia -- have spent our country into the deepest abyss of debt that we've ever seen. Their intelligence has not served our financial well-being at all.

Perhaps the theory is that if we get someone who has actually had to run a household -- and stay in budget -- and/or someone who has at least a tidbit of common sense it would benefit the nation more than the supposed intelligensia has.

Hellooo
Salt Lake City, UT

Another article trying to paint the conservatives as least than sophisticated, anti-education morons. This shows where the real disdain is coming from the supposed elites to the grass roots. Who they expect to just look at their degrees, not their ideas or accomplishments, and fall in line to the chosen few. Thank goodness, most have the good sense not to accept this as a criteria for leadership or merit enough to be the President. Unfortunately, the electorate was not so wise in the last Presidential election.

panamadesnews
Lindon, UT

To Irony Guy: I would think that the only people who worry that Mitt's batchelor's degree was from BYU, are those who do not like BYU. BYU is one of the few universities where you can receive a balanced all around education. Their undergraduate programs are rated very good and their graduate programs are rated even better. The one thing that people should be excited about BYU, is their rating as the #1 cold sober university in the nation. That says a lot. But you nay-sayers, go ahead and criticize me - I don't care one iota!

JoeBlow
Miami Area, Fl

"This headline is a classic case of ascribing negative conotations to someone"

Did the DN do this to promote their far left, liberal agenda? Gotta watch out for that "lame stream" media.

coltakashi
Richland, WA

At best the notion that the Tea Party supporters and other conservative populists would resent a candidate of intelligence with a brand name education is only an hypothesis like one might hear at the faculty club between rounds of golf, not even a theory fleshed out by specific evidence such as a survey of registered voters.

G.W. Bush had a BA from Yale and an MBA from Harvard. Obviously there was cognitive dissonance among voters because his spoken gaffes did not seem to reflect that level of education.

Knowing that the Lexington and Concord involved in the beginning of the Revolutionary War are in Massachusetts is something one should learn in elementary school, not college. The fact that Bachmann could say what she did in a prepared speech means that nobody in her campaign staff recognized the error either. Understanding the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, and the intent of the Founding Fathers, means understanding the Revolution as well. If she did any reading of history on her own, the facts would be embedded in her memory.

eastcoastcoug
Danbury, CT

I'm not sure which is more telling of people's ignorance and bias against smart people - those in the Tea Party who don't value an Ivy League diploma, or the the Utahn's who don't understand the high academic hurdle (ie. high GPA, ACT) to get into BYU.

Interesting how everything in the Wasatch Front devolves into a discussion on BYU vs. Utah.

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