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Published: Thursday, July 28 2011 12:07 a.m. MDT

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Tommy2Shoes
Lehi, UT

Cool. Now I can watch lots of great games from the PAC12. Can't wait to see the Utes play those superior teams and pay their dues. Yup, you are going to earn every penny.

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

Shooter_McGavin,

The only reason the network isn't at full nationwide coverage yet is the satellite companies haven't signed on and this is in the works. Once they are on board the National PAC-12 network will be in as many homes as BYUtv. Rest assured that will happen before the network rolls out in a year. It's always a good idea to read the whole article before you comment on it.

jazzfan14
Sandy, UT

@ Shooter_McGavin

"Hit "add your comment" a little much there?"

Was that the best you could come up with? Obviously you realize that our "baby steps" as you put it are leaving you far behind. While the Utes will be enjoying our millions in revenue, BYU can go on enjoying its peanuts in revenue as your program slips away into nothingness. Again, you can try to belittle our move into the PAC 12 but remember BYU also wanted to get into a BCS conference and nobody wanted you.

sammyg
Springville, UT

@Brave Sir Robin

60 million > 40 million

What I meant by my comment was this. ESPN and BYUtv are usually in the basic tiers of cable tv and satellite choices.

The Pac network announce stated that the in region areas would have access on basic tier cable. Outside of the Pac region it could cost. And satellite has not been announced yet.

Locally BYUtv is over the airwaves on HD sub carrier 11.2. What channel will the Pac network be floating around for free on? It won't unless you have cable.

DrUte
Woods Cross, UT

In the midst of the blue & red banter, we should probably note that in fact Utah and that other school down south have two different agendas.

One is claiming they have a religious bent with a religious marketing agenda (perfectly fine, this is a free country), while the other is more typically secular. Each has a variety of different advantages depending on your viewpoint. No big deal.

Haven't seen anyone lately talking about that Big Difference; establishes two significantly different directions in both the short term and of course the long term.

Those differences make it somewhat difficult to compare the two straight across; each organization can (and probably will) make a variety of decisions based on their own agenda.

In time each will go its separate way, & time will give us the answer in terms of which team has fared "better" in its new venue, whatever "better" means. To one it might be dollars, to the other it might be converts. Or both. In any case, there's lots of room in Utah for both.

So lets get thru this miserable summer & start football season. Man this waiting is a bummer!

Peace & Love out there! Go Red! (Go Shreve!!)

Veracity
Morgan, UT

Dutchman | 3:57 p.m. July 28, 2011
Murray, UT

Veracity,

"But are you sure you want your Basketball team seen......"

Better seen playing in the PAC 12 on national TV than seen playing in the WCC in tiny gyms that seat 3,500 fans. That will certainly impress the recruits.

Dutchman, as usual you missed the point. You have no basketball program...Do you really think;

One...is anyone going to a basketball arena if Utah is playing, 3500 or 35,000...No, they would rather clean their medicine cabinet.

Two...Utah has no basketball team to compete with...sorry, sometimes the truth isn't very nice to hear.

Three...those few TV's which do watch Utah basketball will say...Boy, are they bad...I am not going there to play, PAC 10.2 or not.

Fourth...the arena's will have people hanging from the rafters when BYU plays and oh yes, 10's of millions watching on TV.

Now if you were a highly touted recruit, where would you go...Right, BYU.

Have a nice evening.

MiP
Iowa City, IA

This is good.

But like Dutchman, I'm in wait and see mode with Direct TV. Common Scott, work your magic....

Veracity, regarding Utah's basketball program and BYU's percieved monstrous fanbase, said this:
"Fourth...the arena's will have people hanging from the rafters when BYU plays and oh yes, 10's of millions watching on TV."

Veracity, who's moniker means truth, missed the boat on this one with yet another Y fan's deluted hyperbolic example of who will actually be watching BYU vs Loyola-Marymount next season.

Despite increased popularity in 2011, even the NCAA Mens' Basketball tourney isn't cranking out 10's of millions of viewers. Games in each of the daily broadcast windows in the first few rounds were averaging a combined 8.4 million viewers, up from 7.4 million in 2010. The popular Final Four semifinal matchups in 2010 notched 15 million viewers and it was lauded as a big success (#1 for it's time slot) Again...that's March madness, not a regular season WCC matchup.

Veracity's posts havs spunk, humor, and a nice format. But sometimes they lack, well, veracity.

beltwayute
ARLINGTON, VA

"Fourth...the arena's will have people hanging from the rafters when BYU plays and oh yes, 10's of millions watching on TV."

Don't you mean a proportionate share of 48 basketball games televised on ESPN or its subsidiary? So for approx. 10 games a season interested parties can search for BYU on an ESPN channel to watch the Y fans fall from the rafters? Seems to be a little less than every game televised nationally on the Pac 12 network. Even if our team has been less than stellar (read atrocious) for the last decade or so, at least I can watch any Utah game right on my phone, or iPad, or tv, etc, etc, etc.

Tomahawk Red
North Salt Lake, UT

sammyg | 6:28 p.m. July 28, 2011
Springville, UT
@Brave Sir Robin

Locally BYUtv is over the airwaves... what channel will the Pac network be floating around for free on? It won't unless you have cable.

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Let the pack-pedaling begin!

Originally, it was "Pac 12 network won't be on basic cable so you're gonna have to pay for it."

Now, it's "The Pac 12 network is only available on expanded basic... so you're gonna have to have cable to see it.

Newsflash... just about everyone has cable these days.

Can I use your own argument against you? OK here goes:

Ha ha ha BYU fans... you can't watch your all-important ESPN games unless you have cable.

Wow, that was easy. What else can you sling up for me to shoot?

Tomahawk Red
North Salt Lake, UT

Veracity | 7:08 p.m. July 28, 2011
Morgan, UT

Is anyone going to a basketball arena if Utah is playing? No, they would rather clean their medicine cabinet.

Two...Utah has no basketball team to compete with...sorry, sometimes the truth isn't very nice to hear.

Three...those few TV's which do watch Utah basketball will say...Boy, are they bad...I am not going there to play, PAC 10.2 or not."

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That's it everyone! No one is gonna watch the Pac 12 network if Utah is playing basketball on it. Veracity said it, and he knows... well... every single human on the planet, and he knows how they all feel.

Plus, he underestimates the fans of all those other Pac 12 schools who will tune in (including Ute fans) to watch THEIR team play.

Thus, his (deeply flawed) logic is... not one person will watch your game on TV if you are a rebuilding program. Right.

But I guess if that is true, BYU can look forward to a LOT of low TV ratings once they get back to the cellar. Kind of a double whammy... bad team AND a non AQ.

Ouch.

SoCalUtahFan
Irvine, CA

You want BCS AQ? Utes got it.

You want nation exposure? Utes got it.

You want BCS caliber football? Utes got it.

The whole package baby!!!!

Go Utes!!!

Veracity
Morgan, UT

Tomahawk Red...nice try, but being in an AQ conference does not mean Utah is an AQ...they must earn it...as far a BB is concerned, do you really want the opposing teams fans watching your Utes bite the dust? What, are you seeking the sympathy vote now?

Jute19
Poop, UT

Can any non Mormon person tell me what channel BYUTV is on? I am sure the number of people that can answer this question is slim to none. People not of the LDS faith just don't care.

PAC 12 loves U
Sandy, Utah

@ Veracity

"Tomahawk Red...nice try, but being in an AQ conference does not mean Utah is an AQ...they must earn it...as far a BB is concerned, do you really want the opposing teams fans watching your Utes bite the dust? What, are you seeking the sympathy vote now?"

Do you know what it means to be an AQ school? It means when a school wins their conference regardless of their record they play in a BCS bowl game. Utah is an AQ school whether you like it or not. Utah has already earned their AQ status because of what they accomplished as a non-aq school. Those two BCS bowl wins were huge for Utah.

Here is an interesting fact you; Utah has WON the second most BCS bowl games in the Pac-12 behind USC. By that criteria, Utah is the second most successful program in the Pac-12 in the BCS era!

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Veracity, sammyg, Tommy2Shoes -

Have you each seriously dug yourselves such large holes that you just aren't willing to eat crow and admit you were wrong?
Ute fans have been on here for a year taking all your BYU/Independent rants about BYUTV this, BYU-ESPN that, and Utah's situation doesn't come close, etc, etc.
Ute fans have told you this entire time what was coming after we bide our time on KJZZ for 1 year. Now that it's here, after all your foot-in-mouth comments you just can't eat your humble pie.
That's all fine and dandy, no one can make you admit that Utah is part of the greatest college sports TV arrangement in history...but for some reason it's only BYU fans that don't get that.
An intervention is probably in order but I don't know that anyone actually cares.
Your arguments, rationalizations and off topic meanderings only make you each sound jealous, insecure and extremely lacking in knowledge. You destroy any credibility you may otherwise merit from any fan base.
Be happy with Independence and your TV arrangement. It's truly pretty good. It's just not Pac12 good. Deal with it.

sammyg
Springville, UT

60 million > 40 million

BYU nationwide fans > local regional Ute fans

ESPN, BYUtv > KJZZ

LES > RES and so on.

Give it up Utes. No matter what you say your deal is good but it does not surpass what's been created at BYU, ESPN, BYUtv

I'm happy for you, it's great for you but logistically it will always be less.

Deal with it.

Dutchman
Murray, UT

I agree 100% with motorbike. Sammyg and Veracity deal with it. You have been on Ute comment boards for about a year now and your unfounded vicious comments now have no credibility.

I have thought and said for some time now that BYU's move to the WCC was a good one. Small gyms can actually provide a great college atmosphere. Then Veracity makes the claim that Utah has no b-ball program and no one will watch. I should have ignored the comment because it has no validity but I went ahead and put out a little smack which caused a chain reaction. I still think BYU's move to the WCC is a good one but since we are in the mood of smacking each other around here is my final out burst.

High School b-ball recruits who happen to watch the WCC games on TV are going to think, "Man my high school gym is bigger than those places".

sammyg
Springville, UT

@Jute

The rebroadcast of games at scheduled times will be welcomed by fans of both teams.

Also, once the opposing fanbase understands that they can watch their games on demand from the archives of BYUtv I am sure several will through the internet.

Naysay all you want, you know its cool.

Does KJZZ have an archives? Are the away games going to be televised?

SoCalUtahFan
Irvine, CA

You want BCS AQ? Utes got it.

You want Indy/Wacky? Cougs got it.

You want current national exposure? Utes got it--2 BCS wins + PAC-12.

You want "past" national exposure? Cougs got it--1980s was good for BYU.

You want BCS caliber football? Utes got it.

You want mid-major caliber football? Cougs got it.

Chris Bryant
SLC, UT

so excited for this tv deal. Ute football is going to be seen across the country. GO UTES!

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