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Published: Thursday, July 28 2011 12:07 a.m. MDT

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Dutchman
Murray, UT

Duckhunter,

".......I think you better read the fine print on this deal just a little bit better before you start declaring it to be the things all of you are declaring it to be."

From the file. Remember, you stated ".... I'm willing to wager it will take years, if it is ever available nationwide, for that to happen."

I'll wait for the fine print as you suggest but it looks like when this network is launched one year from now that it will be available nationwide. No, it will not take years as you predicted. Meanwhile I will watch the Utes on KJZZ as I am sure you will too. LOL

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

Of course Duckhunter meant 2012 in his original wager. He is only backtraking now, because he was proven wrong and now must either change the meaning of his original statement or eat crow.

As far as the finr print goes, tell us Duckhunter, what does that fine print say? Since you always claim to have the inside track on facilities at both the U and BYU, apparently you are now claiming to have the inside track on the PAC-12 TV deal. So spill the beans. What bombshell are you waiting to drop on us all?

Natester
Cedar Hills, UT

Enough of the crazy banter back and forth between a few Ute and BYU fans.....

Here is a Cougar fan who is happy as can be to read about news of Utah games being telecasted more broadly and more often. Truth is, both BYU and Utah are winners for getting out of a hideous MWC T.V. contract (which everyone will agree is a total joke). Both schools will be promoted on the national scene in much better ways. What is there to argue about??? I, for one, will cheer the Utes on to victory in every game but one. I have to believe that there are alot of Utes that would do the same for my Cougars. Good luck to the Utes for this football season. Go show those PAC 12 teams that football in this area is exciting and worth watching. Obviously, GO COUGARS! Go get every win this year!!!!!!

raisedaute
Cottonwood Heights, UT

So I was just reading the article in NY Times announcing this PAC12 network. I was looking for the article about BYU media days and guess what.... there wasnt one! Shocker lol. Also was reading that the network would be available to 40,000,000 viewers nationwide with ALL games available. Hmmmm

JohnInSLC
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Fans of both schools would agree that having "the mtn" in the rear-view mirror is cause for celebration. However, we have to remember why "the mtn" was created in the first place, to get out from under the penurious thumb of the mothership. So consider Boise State--they left the mothership Wednesday-Thursday exposure to go with the MWC and "the mtn" for more money and the increase in competition.

One man's trash is another man's treasure.

Moderate
Salt Lake City, UT

Every Pac-12 football and basketball game. Man, that's a LOT of programming for ESPN and FOX beginning in 2012. I hope they don't have to push aside any independent programming to make room...

BYU Fan who also likes Utah
Provo, UT

Moderate,
It is not every Pac-12 football and basketball game on ESPN and Fox. According to the report on ESPN, most of the high profile games will be on ESPN or Fox. All football and men's basketball games will be on national TV according to ESPN, but only many of the high profile games will be on ESPN and Fox. Nice try, but BYU's independent contract with ESPN is safe, and BYU will continue enjoy a lot of exposure on ESPN for years to come.

With that said, this is an excellent deal for the Pac-12 and I am happy for Utah, and what it will mean for them. Both BYU and Utah are in an insanely better place then they were with the mtn deal, and I am glad to be happy for the future of both.

Carnak
Salt Lake City, UT

@ Mormon Ute | 11:05 a.m. July 28, 2011
Kaysville, UT

You are correct sir. Nothing is ever truly settled until Ducky informs us all of the true facts. After all, he knows the Whittinghams and Kaufusis, lives by and coaches the kids of all the ex professional athletes who live in Utah, builds the facilities for all of the schools and knows how those facilities were funded, and has the back ground and knowledge to analyze all of the different schools financial data. LOL

Veracity
Morgan, UT

Congrats Utah,

But are you sure you want your Basketball team seen in 40 million homes...this could mean death for a program already on the skids...do you really want potential recruits to see the Utes beaten' by every team, even those from division II and III.

Maybe this deal is not all a bed of roses.

WestCoast1
Escondido, CA

What would an article on the Utes be without some irrelevant comment aimed at the Utes by sammg from Springville, UT? Give it a rest, buddy! Utah and BYU are going separate ways and, given the recent venom produced from their rivalry, it is best that the two schools part ways. Why does it always have to be a "BYU vs. Utah" deal with you? Both schools are going off into directions that will benefit themselves far better than either school has had before.

Again, sammyg, give it a rest!

Shooter_McGavin
Las Vegas, NV

Congrats Utah,

This looks like a pretty good deal, except for one thing. You see, ESPN and FOX may have the rights to broadcast to a national audience (40 million is hardly "national", although the Pac-12 network will get there eventually), but they get to pick and choose the games they show. Most likely this will be 1-2 games/week. Great exposure for the conference, but unless Utah is playing USC, Oregon, or Stanford they'll likely be relegated to the regional pac-12 station. Not much of a step up from the MTN, but baby steps are better than nothing.

One thing for sure is that at least you'll get 2 nationally televised games a year, when you play BYU and USC.

Bleed Crimson
Sandy, Utah

@ Shooter_McGavin

"This looks like a pretty good deal, except for one thing. You see, ESPN and FOX may have the rights to broadcast to a national audience (40 million is hardly "national", although the Pac-12 network will get there eventually), but they get to pick and choose the games they show. Most likely this will be 1-2 games/week. Great exposure for the conference, but unless Utah is playing USC, Oregon, or Stanford they'll likely be relegated to the regional pac-12 station. Not much of a step up from the MTN, but baby steps are better than nothing."

Actually, ESPN and Fox pick and choose their games first. Games that will not be on any of the ESPN or Fox stations will be on the National Pac-12 Network. According to Larry Scott: "Every Pac-12 Football and Men's Basketball will be Nationally televised on the Pac-12 Network." The non-football and basketball sports will be on the Pac-12 regional channel.

jazzfan14
Sandy, UT

@ Shooter_McGavin
Remind me again, which BCS conference was it that recruited you guys? Oh yeah, that's right. Nobody. Sounds like some jealous remarks from a team that nobody else wanted. And our "baby steps" will be bringing the conference a lot more money than your baby steps will.

jazzfan14
Sandy, UT

@ Shooter_McGavin
Remind me again, which BCS conference was it that recruited you guys? Oh yeah, that's right. Nobody. Sounds like some jealous remarks from a team that nobody else wanted. And our "baby steps" will be bringing the conference a lot more money than your baby steps will.

jazzfan14
Sandy, UT

@ Shooter_McGavin
Remind me again, which BCS conference was it that recruited you guys? Oh yeah, that's right. Nobody. Sounds like some jealous remarks from a team that nobody else wanted. And our "baby steps" will be bringing the conference a lot more money than your baby steps will.

Shooter_McGavin
Las Vegas, NV

@Bleed Crimson

Exactly why I said 40 million is hardly nationwide, at least not in this nation. Then again, I guess the PAC-12 is claiming their media tour is "nationwide" because they met in 2 cities.

Jazzfan - Hit "add your comment" a little much there?

Dutchman
Murray, UT

Veracity,

"But are you sure you want your Basketball team seen......"

Better seen playing in the PAC 12 on national TV than seen playing in the WCC in tiny gyms that seat 3,500 fans. That will certainly impress the recruits.

All,

One thing I do appreciate about Duckhunter is his candor in putting out information about facilities, honor codes, academics and financing. Even though he can be pretty vitriolic against the U he does on occasion put out some information that otherwise is not well known. That being said I cannot understand how someone who makes a living getting good construction contracts from the U turn on the "hand that feeds you" the way he can.

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

This looks very promising. The BIG-10 network is in 75 million homes as of last September and is expanding fast. I like the PAC-12 approach with a national network for all football and basketball games and then regional networks for the Olympic sports. MWC Commissioner Craig Thompson has the hairdo, but PAC-12 Commissioner Larry Scott has the brains. This will be great for recruiting.

giantfan
Farmington, UT

Re: Dutchman

If a basketball game is played on national tv between quality opponents, who cares how many fans are actually at the arena in person? A recruit's going to care about that? And out of a 30+ game season, BYU will only play 8 WCC games in road venues. Many of those venues will be packed to the hilt where 3500 will feel like twice that much. Not a bad environment, especially when you try to compare how 3500 in the dead Huntsman Center will feel more like a couple hundred, and the Utes have to play half their games there! At least you have BYU on the schedule to bring a few thousand of their own fans.

Dutchman
Murray, UT

Scooter McGavin,

"Exactly why I said 40 million is hardly nationwide"

As Larry Scott pointed out the deal is not completely finished. They will yet sign agreements with DirecTV and Dish. Historically, satellite systems come a little later because they have to figure the out the issues of transponders and such. The satellite systems will be on board soon and will make the network truly nationwide. Don't underestimate Larry Scott.

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