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  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    July 30, 2011 11:03 a.m.

    @motorbike

    If it helps you to sleep at night pretending the Pac 12 Network is or ever will be, the equivalent of ESPN, then have at it.

    Fox and ESPN will cherry pick the Elites for their games. Utah, as we have just seen recently, is not really valued much by the "Major" Networks.

    Have fun with your glorified mtn. or a poor mans FoxsportsNet, even the Pac12 Network.

    Exposure is Exposure, BYU has it on the Top Platform. Utah will not.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    July 30, 2011 10:56 a.m.

    I just checked and I have the Big Ten Network in High Def on Comcast and it wasn't an extra charge. Its pretty cool. They are in 80 million homes and they are adding more this season. That's bigger than ESPN-U. They do all the BIG Ten football and basketball games. I think the PAC-12 has even greater potential with the regional networks. This really looks like the wave of the future for college sports.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 30, 2011 9:47 a.m.

    Bluto - Whatever helps you sleep at night.
    It's funny how it's only BYU fans that don't realize the new Pac12 situation is the greatest television arrangement ever yet created.
    And by the way, what is it that you and the other BYU posters here don't get concerning the 40 million now but a year to still get more outlets and the satellite companies worked out? Just curious, what do you think the number will be then?
    Lastly, learn to read. If you read or even listened to all the details about the tv arrangement, ALL Utah football games will be on the national stations not the regional ones. Those stations are more about the secondary sports.
    But if your denial is helping you hang in there then you just keep it rolling and we'll keep rolling our eyes and laughing.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    July 30, 2011 9:05 a.m.

    @Mormonute

    No, U were invited because, The (6) Big 12 Schools/Pac 10 Merger, fell apart.

    And why did it fall apart?

    Because, the original plans included Baylor. In order to save face and wedge out Baylor (another Faith Based University) Colorado was invited with a pre-emtive strike by Commissioner Scott.

    A Faith Based University is simply an untenable situation with the Pac 10 Presidents.

    Glenn Tuckett understood this in the mid 80's (his own words). BYU was never a consideration for the pac 10. This is why BYU planned for years and was prepared from day one, once they pulled the trigger to go Independent.

    Scott gambled and lost. He thought excluding Baylor would be overlooked. Well, the Texas legislature was never going to allow the other State Schools, Texas, A&M and Tech to go anywhere without Baylor.

    As was the case when the Big 12 was put together and Gov. Ann Richards wedged out BYU in favor of her alma-mater Baylor.

    This myth that Utah was invited because of their athletics is simply a falsehood. That is spin. The fact is, they were the last choice and not the ideal scenario, Commissioner Scott hoped for.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    July 30, 2011 8:24 a.m.

    @hedgie and all puffed up utes

    Utah's BCS games were attained through going undefeated and winning the MWC.
    Now, try doing it while getting through, the other 11 Pac teams.

    Much different dynamic, and not likely at all.

    Ask Arizona...32 years and still waiting.
    ASU....twice.

    Remember, these teams left the old WAC for the "Opportunity to play in the Rose Bowl".

    As for TV.... BYU's ESPN arrangement trumps anything the U will have. Even the Pac 12 network, will not be "National" on Basic Tier, as ESPN always is and the Pac 12N is only in 40 million homes. Much like the big 10 network.

    BYU-tv is in 60 million homes on Basic Tier, and growing, and millions more Internationally.

    The Pac 12 Regional, is where Utah will spend most of it's time and even it is really just a poor mans version of FopxsportsNet.

    As for Me and My House...

    We'll take 10 or 11 games a year on ESPN, the World Wide Leader in Sports.

    Sorry utes, you'll be lost in the shuffle.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 29, 2011 11:41 a.m.

    Now I know why sammy-boy has been led to believe SDS is invincible. All he watches are the BYUtv replays--he sees just a few games each year, and they never lose!

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    July 29, 2011 11:06 a.m.

    Veracity,

    "...being in an AQ conference does not mean Utah is an AQ...they must earn it..." You obviously missed the news since 2004, the Utes have earned it. That's why we were invited to join an AQ conference. By being in the PAC-12 we get the money and exposure that will help elevate the caliber of players, coaches, facilities, etc. needed to be more consistently competitive at the AQ level.

  • giantfan Farmington, UT
    July 29, 2011 10:48 a.m.

    SoCalUtahFan,

    BYU finished in the top-25 in both polls 5 times between 2001-2010, more than Utah did. But you're right, the 80's were better for BYU!

  • giantfan Farmington, UT
    July 29, 2011 10:43 a.m.

    SoCalUtahFan,

    BYU finished in the top-25 in both polls 5 times between 2001-2010, more than Utah did. But you're right, the 80's were better for BYU!

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    July 29, 2011 9:37 a.m.

    "but being in an AQ conference does not mean Utah is an AQ...they must earn it"

    Verosity,

    You mean like getting to and winning 2 BCS bowl games in the past 6 years..check.

    Only one PAC12 team (USC) has more BCS wins than Utah.

  • Chris Bryant SLC, UT
    July 29, 2011 8:47 a.m.

    so excited for this tv deal. Ute football is going to be seen across the country. GO UTES!

  • SoCalUtahFan Irvine, CA
    July 29, 2011 8:21 a.m.

    You want BCS AQ? Utes got it.

    You want Indy/Wacky? Cougs got it.

    You want current national exposure? Utes got it--2 BCS wins + PAC-12.

    You want "past" national exposure? Cougs got it--1980s was good for BYU.

    You want BCS caliber football? Utes got it.

    You want mid-major caliber football? Cougs got it.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    July 29, 2011 7:56 a.m.

    @Jute

    The rebroadcast of games at scheduled times will be welcomed by fans of both teams.

    Also, once the opposing fanbase understands that they can watch their games on demand from the archives of BYUtv I am sure several will through the internet.

    Naysay all you want, you know its cool.

    Does KJZZ have an archives? Are the away games going to be televised?

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    July 29, 2011 7:55 a.m.

    I agree 100% with motorbike. Sammyg and Veracity deal with it. You have been on Ute comment boards for about a year now and your unfounded vicious comments now have no credibility.

    I have thought and said for some time now that BYU's move to the WCC was a good one. Small gyms can actually provide a great college atmosphere. Then Veracity makes the claim that Utah has no b-ball program and no one will watch. I should have ignored the comment because it has no validity but I went ahead and put out a little smack which caused a chain reaction. I still think BYU's move to the WCC is a good one but since we are in the mood of smacking each other around here is my final out burst.

    High School b-ball recruits who happen to watch the WCC games on TV are going to think, "Man my high school gym is bigger than those places".

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    July 29, 2011 7:25 a.m.

    60 million > 40 million

    BYU nationwide fans > local regional Ute fans

    ESPN, BYUtv > KJZZ

    LES > RES and so on.

    Give it up Utes. No matter what you say your deal is good but it does not surpass what's been created at BYU, ESPN, BYUtv

    I'm happy for you, it's great for you but logistically it will always be less.

    Deal with it.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 29, 2011 12:55 a.m.

    Veracity, sammyg, Tommy2Shoes -

    Have you each seriously dug yourselves such large holes that you just aren't willing to eat crow and admit you were wrong?
    Ute fans have been on here for a year taking all your BYU/Independent rants about BYUTV this, BYU-ESPN that, and Utah's situation doesn't come close, etc, etc.
    Ute fans have told you this entire time what was coming after we bide our time on KJZZ for 1 year. Now that it's here, after all your foot-in-mouth comments you just can't eat your humble pie.
    That's all fine and dandy, no one can make you admit that Utah is part of the greatest college sports TV arrangement in history...but for some reason it's only BYU fans that don't get that.
    An intervention is probably in order but I don't know that anyone actually cares.
    Your arguments, rationalizations and off topic meanderings only make you each sound jealous, insecure and extremely lacking in knowledge. You destroy any credibility you may otherwise merit from any fan base.
    Be happy with Independence and your TV arrangement. It's truly pretty good. It's just not Pac12 good. Deal with it.

  • PAC 12 loves U Sandy, Utah
    July 29, 2011 12:02 a.m.

    @ Veracity

    "Tomahawk Red...nice try, but being in an AQ conference does not mean Utah is an AQ...they must earn it...as far a BB is concerned, do you really want the opposing teams fans watching your Utes bite the dust? What, are you seeking the sympathy vote now?"

    Do you know what it means to be an AQ school? It means when a school wins their conference regardless of their record they play in a BCS bowl game. Utah is an AQ school whether you like it or not. Utah has already earned their AQ status because of what they accomplished as a non-aq school. Those two BCS bowl wins were huge for Utah.

    Here is an interesting fact you; Utah has WON the second most BCS bowl games in the Pac-12 behind USC. By that criteria, Utah is the second most successful program in the Pac-12 in the BCS era!

  • Jute19 Poop, UT
    July 28, 2011 11:51 p.m.

    Can any non Mormon person tell me what channel BYUTV is on? I am sure the number of people that can answer this question is slim to none. People not of the LDS faith just don't care.

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    July 28, 2011 11:17 p.m.

    Tomahawk Red...nice try, but being in an AQ conference does not mean Utah is an AQ...they must earn it...as far a BB is concerned, do you really want the opposing teams fans watching your Utes bite the dust? What, are you seeking the sympathy vote now?

  • SoCalUtahFan Irvine, CA
    July 28, 2011 10:55 p.m.

    You want BCS AQ? Utes got it.

    You want nation exposure? Utes got it.

    You want BCS caliber football? Utes got it.

    The whole package baby!!!!

    Go Utes!!!

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    July 28, 2011 10:51 p.m.

    Veracity | 7:08 p.m. July 28, 2011
    Morgan, UT

    Is anyone going to a basketball arena if Utah is playing? No, they would rather clean their medicine cabinet.

    Two...Utah has no basketball team to compete with...sorry, sometimes the truth isn't very nice to hear.

    Three...those few TV's which do watch Utah basketball will say...Boy, are they bad...I am not going there to play, PAC 10.2 or not."

    ----------------

    That's it everyone! No one is gonna watch the Pac 12 network if Utah is playing basketball on it. Veracity said it, and he knows... well... every single human on the planet, and he knows how they all feel.

    Plus, he underestimates the fans of all those other Pac 12 schools who will tune in (including Ute fans) to watch THEIR team play.

    Thus, his (deeply flawed) logic is... not one person will watch your game on TV if you are a rebuilding program. Right.

    But I guess if that is true, BYU can look forward to a LOT of low TV ratings once they get back to the cellar. Kind of a double whammy... bad team AND a non AQ.

    Ouch.

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    July 28, 2011 10:43 p.m.

    sammyg | 6:28 p.m. July 28, 2011
    Springville, UT
    @Brave Sir Robin

    Locally BYUtv is over the airwaves... what channel will the Pac network be floating around for free on? It won't unless you have cable.

    ----------------------

    Let the pack-pedaling begin!

    Originally, it was "Pac 12 network won't be on basic cable so you're gonna have to pay for it."

    Now, it's "The Pac 12 network is only available on expanded basic... so you're gonna have to have cable to see it.

    Newsflash... just about everyone has cable these days.

    Can I use your own argument against you? OK here goes:

    Ha ha ha BYU fans... you can't watch your all-important ESPN games unless you have cable.

    Wow, that was easy. What else can you sling up for me to shoot?

  • beltwayute ARLINGTON, VA
    July 28, 2011 10:19 p.m.

    "Fourth...the arena's will have people hanging from the rafters when BYU plays and oh yes, 10's of millions watching on TV."

    Don't you mean a proportionate share of 48 basketball games televised on ESPN or its subsidiary? So for approx. 10 games a season interested parties can search for BYU on an ESPN channel to watch the Y fans fall from the rafters? Seems to be a little less than every game televised nationally on the Pac 12 network. Even if our team has been less than stellar (read atrocious) for the last decade or so, at least I can watch any Utah game right on my phone, or iPad, or tv, etc, etc, etc.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    July 28, 2011 8:01 p.m.

    This is good.

    But like Dutchman, I'm in wait and see mode with Direct TV. Common Scott, work your magic....

    Veracity, regarding Utah's basketball program and BYU's percieved monstrous fanbase, said this:
    "Fourth...the arena's will have people hanging from the rafters when BYU plays and oh yes, 10's of millions watching on TV."

    Veracity, who's moniker means truth, missed the boat on this one with yet another Y fan's deluted hyperbolic example of who will actually be watching BYU vs Loyola-Marymount next season.

    Despite increased popularity in 2011, even the NCAA Mens' Basketball tourney isn't cranking out 10's of millions of viewers. Games in each of the daily broadcast windows in the first few rounds were averaging a combined 8.4 million viewers, up from 7.4 million in 2010. The popular Final Four semifinal matchups in 2010 notched 15 million viewers and it was lauded as a big success (#1 for it's time slot) Again...that's March madness, not a regular season WCC matchup.

    Veracity's posts havs spunk, humor, and a nice format. But sometimes they lack, well, veracity.

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    July 28, 2011 7:08 p.m.

    Dutchman | 3:57 p.m. July 28, 2011
    Murray, UT

    Veracity,

    "But are you sure you want your Basketball team seen......"

    Better seen playing in the PAC 12 on national TV than seen playing in the WCC in tiny gyms that seat 3,500 fans. That will certainly impress the recruits.

    Dutchman, as usual you missed the point. You have no basketball program...Do you really think;

    One...is anyone going to a basketball arena if Utah is playing, 3500 or 35,000...No, they would rather clean their medicine cabinet.

    Two...Utah has no basketball team to compete with...sorry, sometimes the truth isn't very nice to hear.

    Three...those few TV's which do watch Utah basketball will say...Boy, are they bad...I am not going there to play, PAC 10.2 or not.

    Fourth...the arena's will have people hanging from the rafters when BYU plays and oh yes, 10's of millions watching on TV.

    Now if you were a highly touted recruit, where would you go...Right, BYU.

    Have a nice evening.

  • DrUte Woods Cross, UT
    July 28, 2011 6:36 p.m.

    In the midst of the blue & red banter, we should probably note that in fact Utah and that other school down south have two different agendas.

    One is claiming they have a religious bent with a religious marketing agenda (perfectly fine, this is a free country), while the other is more typically secular. Each has a variety of different advantages depending on your viewpoint. No big deal.

    Haven't seen anyone lately talking about that Big Difference; establishes two significantly different directions in both the short term and of course the long term.

    Those differences make it somewhat difficult to compare the two straight across; each organization can (and probably will) make a variety of decisions based on their own agenda.

    In time each will go its separate way, & time will give us the answer in terms of which team has fared "better" in its new venue, whatever "better" means. To one it might be dollars, to the other it might be converts. Or both. In any case, there's lots of room in Utah for both.

    So lets get thru this miserable summer & start football season. Man this waiting is a bummer!

    Peace & Love out there! Go Red! (Go Shreve!!)

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    July 28, 2011 6:28 p.m.

    @Brave Sir Robin

    60 million > 40 million

    What I meant by my comment was this. ESPN and BYUtv are usually in the basic tiers of cable tv and satellite choices.

    The Pac network announce stated that the in region areas would have access on basic tier cable. Outside of the Pac region it could cost. And satellite has not been announced yet.

    Locally BYUtv is over the airwaves on HD sub carrier 11.2. What channel will the Pac network be floating around for free on? It won't unless you have cable.

  • jazzfan14 Sandy, UT
    July 28, 2011 4:37 p.m.

    @ Shooter_McGavin

    "Hit "add your comment" a little much there?"

    Was that the best you could come up with? Obviously you realize that our "baby steps" as you put it are leaving you far behind. While the Utes will be enjoying our millions in revenue, BYU can go on enjoying its peanuts in revenue as your program slips away into nothingness. Again, you can try to belittle our move into the PAC 12 but remember BYU also wanted to get into a BCS conference and nobody wanted you.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    July 28, 2011 4:28 p.m.

    Shooter_McGavin,

    The only reason the network isn't at full nationwide coverage yet is the satellite companies haven't signed on and this is in the works. Once they are on board the National PAC-12 network will be in as many homes as BYUtv. Rest assured that will happen before the network rolls out in a year. It's always a good idea to read the whole article before you comment on it.

  • Tommy2Shoes Lehi, UT
    July 28, 2011 4:23 p.m.

    Cool. Now I can watch lots of great games from the PAC12. Can't wait to see the Utes play those superior teams and pay their dues. Yup, you are going to earn every penny.

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    July 28, 2011 4:22 p.m.

    Scooter McGavin,

    "Exactly why I said 40 million is hardly nationwide"

    As Larry Scott pointed out the deal is not completely finished. They will yet sign agreements with DirecTV and Dish. Historically, satellite systems come a little later because they have to figure the out the issues of transponders and such. The satellite systems will be on board soon and will make the network truly nationwide. Don't underestimate Larry Scott.

  • giantfan Farmington, UT
    July 28, 2011 4:15 p.m.

    Re: Dutchman

    If a basketball game is played on national tv between quality opponents, who cares how many fans are actually at the arena in person? A recruit's going to care about that? And out of a 30+ game season, BYU will only play 8 WCC games in road venues. Many of those venues will be packed to the hilt where 3500 will feel like twice that much. Not a bad environment, especially when you try to compare how 3500 in the dead Huntsman Center will feel more like a couple hundred, and the Utes have to play half their games there! At least you have BYU on the schedule to bring a few thousand of their own fans.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    July 28, 2011 4:14 p.m.

    This looks very promising. The BIG-10 network is in 75 million homes as of last September and is expanding fast. I like the PAC-12 approach with a national network for all football and basketball games and then regional networks for the Olympic sports. MWC Commissioner Craig Thompson has the hairdo, but PAC-12 Commissioner Larry Scott has the brains. This will be great for recruiting.

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    July 28, 2011 3:57 p.m.

    Veracity,

    "But are you sure you want your Basketball team seen......"

    Better seen playing in the PAC 12 on national TV than seen playing in the WCC in tiny gyms that seat 3,500 fans. That will certainly impress the recruits.

    All,

    One thing I do appreciate about Duckhunter is his candor in putting out information about facilities, honor codes, academics and financing. Even though he can be pretty vitriolic against the U he does on occasion put out some information that otherwise is not well known. That being said I cannot understand how someone who makes a living getting good construction contracts from the U turn on the "hand that feeds you" the way he can.

  • Shooter_McGavin Las Vegas, NV
    July 28, 2011 3:39 p.m.

    @Bleed Crimson

    Exactly why I said 40 million is hardly nationwide, at least not in this nation. Then again, I guess the PAC-12 is claiming their media tour is "nationwide" because they met in 2 cities.

    Jazzfan - Hit "add your comment" a little much there?

  • jazzfan14 Sandy, UT
    July 28, 2011 3:27 p.m.

    @ Shooter_McGavin
    Remind me again, which BCS conference was it that recruited you guys? Oh yeah, that's right. Nobody. Sounds like some jealous remarks from a team that nobody else wanted. And our "baby steps" will be bringing the conference a lot more money than your baby steps will.

  • jazzfan14 Sandy, UT
    July 28, 2011 3:26 p.m.

    @ Shooter_McGavin
    Remind me again, which BCS conference was it that recruited you guys? Oh yeah, that's right. Nobody. Sounds like some jealous remarks from a team that nobody else wanted. And our "baby steps" will be bringing the conference a lot more money than your baby steps will.

  • jazzfan14 Sandy, UT
    July 28, 2011 3:25 p.m.

    @ Shooter_McGavin
    Remind me again, which BCS conference was it that recruited you guys? Oh yeah, that's right. Nobody. Sounds like some jealous remarks from a team that nobody else wanted. And our "baby steps" will be bringing the conference a lot more money than your baby steps will.

  • Bleed Crimson Sandy, Utah
    July 28, 2011 3:21 p.m.

    @ Shooter_McGavin

    "This looks like a pretty good deal, except for one thing. You see, ESPN and FOX may have the rights to broadcast to a national audience (40 million is hardly "national", although the Pac-12 network will get there eventually), but they get to pick and choose the games they show. Most likely this will be 1-2 games/week. Great exposure for the conference, but unless Utah is playing USC, Oregon, or Stanford they'll likely be relegated to the regional pac-12 station. Not much of a step up from the MTN, but baby steps are better than nothing."

    Actually, ESPN and Fox pick and choose their games first. Games that will not be on any of the ESPN or Fox stations will be on the National Pac-12 Network. According to Larry Scott: "Every Pac-12 Football and Men's Basketball will be Nationally televised on the Pac-12 Network." The non-football and basketball sports will be on the Pac-12 regional channel.

  • Shooter_McGavin Las Vegas, NV
    July 28, 2011 2:41 p.m.

    Congrats Utah,

    This looks like a pretty good deal, except for one thing. You see, ESPN and FOX may have the rights to broadcast to a national audience (40 million is hardly "national", although the Pac-12 network will get there eventually), but they get to pick and choose the games they show. Most likely this will be 1-2 games/week. Great exposure for the conference, but unless Utah is playing USC, Oregon, or Stanford they'll likely be relegated to the regional pac-12 station. Not much of a step up from the MTN, but baby steps are better than nothing.

    One thing for sure is that at least you'll get 2 nationally televised games a year, when you play BYU and USC.

  • WestCoast1 Escondido, CA
    July 28, 2011 1:35 p.m.

    What would an article on the Utes be without some irrelevant comment aimed at the Utes by sammg from Springville, UT? Give it a rest, buddy! Utah and BYU are going separate ways and, given the recent venom produced from their rivalry, it is best that the two schools part ways. Why does it always have to be a "BYU vs. Utah" deal with you? Both schools are going off into directions that will benefit themselves far better than either school has had before.

    Again, sammyg, give it a rest!

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    July 28, 2011 1:31 p.m.

    Congrats Utah,

    But are you sure you want your Basketball team seen in 40 million homes...this could mean death for a program already on the skids...do you really want potential recruits to see the Utes beaten' by every team, even those from division II and III.

    Maybe this deal is not all a bed of roses.

  • Carnak Salt Lake City, UT
    July 28, 2011 12:50 p.m.

    @ Mormon Ute | 11:05 a.m. July 28, 2011
    Kaysville, UT

    You are correct sir. Nothing is ever truly settled until Ducky informs us all of the true facts. After all, he knows the Whittinghams and Kaufusis, lives by and coaches the kids of all the ex professional athletes who live in Utah, builds the facilities for all of the schools and knows how those facilities were funded, and has the back ground and knowledge to analyze all of the different schools financial data. LOL

  • BYU Fan who also likes Utah Provo, UT
    July 28, 2011 12:28 p.m.

    Moderate,
    It is not every Pac-12 football and basketball game on ESPN and Fox. According to the report on ESPN, most of the high profile games will be on ESPN or Fox. All football and men's basketball games will be on national TV according to ESPN, but only many of the high profile games will be on ESPN and Fox. Nice try, but BYU's independent contract with ESPN is safe, and BYU will continue enjoy a lot of exposure on ESPN for years to come.

    With that said, this is an excellent deal for the Pac-12 and I am happy for Utah, and what it will mean for them. Both BYU and Utah are in an insanely better place then they were with the mtn deal, and I am glad to be happy for the future of both.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    July 28, 2011 11:53 a.m.

    Every Pac-12 football and basketball game. Man, that's a LOT of programming for ESPN and FOX beginning in 2012. I hope they don't have to push aside any independent programming to make room...

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 28, 2011 11:45 a.m.

    Fans of both schools would agree that having "the mtn" in the rear-view mirror is cause for celebration. However, we have to remember why "the mtn" was created in the first place, to get out from under the penurious thumb of the mothership. So consider Boise State--they left the mothership Wednesday-Thursday exposure to go with the MWC and "the mtn" for more money and the increase in competition.

    One man's trash is another man's treasure.

  • raisedaute Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 28, 2011 11:39 a.m.

    So I was just reading the article in NY Times announcing this PAC12 network. I was looking for the article about BYU media days and guess what.... there wasnt one! Shocker lol. Also was reading that the network would be available to 40,000,000 viewers nationwide with ALL games available. Hmmmm

  • Natester Cedar Hills, UT
    July 28, 2011 11:29 a.m.

    Enough of the crazy banter back and forth between a few Ute and BYU fans.....

    Here is a Cougar fan who is happy as can be to read about news of Utah games being telecasted more broadly and more often. Truth is, both BYU and Utah are winners for getting out of a hideous MWC T.V. contract (which everyone will agree is a total joke). Both schools will be promoted on the national scene in much better ways. What is there to argue about??? I, for one, will cheer the Utes on to victory in every game but one. I have to believe that there are alot of Utes that would do the same for my Cougars. Good luck to the Utes for this football season. Go show those PAC 12 teams that football in this area is exciting and worth watching. Obviously, GO COUGARS! Go get every win this year!!!!!!

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    July 28, 2011 11:05 a.m.

    Of course Duckhunter meant 2012 in his original wager. He is only backtraking now, because he was proven wrong and now must either change the meaning of his original statement or eat crow.

    As far as the finr print goes, tell us Duckhunter, what does that fine print say? Since you always claim to have the inside track on facilities at both the U and BYU, apparently you are now claiming to have the inside track on the PAC-12 TV deal. So spill the beans. What bombshell are you waiting to drop on us all?

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    July 28, 2011 10:51 a.m.

    Duckhunter,

    ".......I think you better read the fine print on this deal just a little bit better before you start declaring it to be the things all of you are declaring it to be."

    From the file. Remember, you stated ".... I'm willing to wager it will take years, if it is ever available nationwide, for that to happen."

    I'll wait for the fine print as you suggest but it looks like when this network is launched one year from now that it will be available nationwide. No, it will not take years as you predicted. Meanwhile I will watch the Utes on KJZZ as I am sure you will too. LOL

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 28, 2011 10:41 a.m.

    When one writes a post in 2011 and says: "next year", it means 2012 to everyone. Well, except Ducky.

    Admit it. Starting "next year" the Utes get as much, national exposure as SDS, if not more--and more money to boot. So cowboy up, keep your word and disappear.

    Of course if that doesn't happen, it wouldn't be Duck's first hollow note.

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    July 28, 2011 9:56 a.m.

    UU32,

    "...but any time Comcast tangles with DirectTV and/or Dish Network, something always goes bad"

    Remember, the PAC 12 owns and controls the network so comcast will not be involved with DirecTV. Comcast has no ownership interest in this network unlike the mtn. where they were the majority owner. DirecTV just needs to strike a deal directly with the PAC 12 conference and it will happen.

    Duckhunter,

    I am not surprised at your response but I guess I can wait a year for you to eat some crow. The file is getting rather large. LOL

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 28, 2011 9:36 a.m.

    @dutchman

    Nice to see you have a Duckhunter file just like failstorm does LOL!

    But of course you are wrong. The pac 10 network is not available this next season. Why do you think utah took their little kjzz deal?

    Also I think you better read the fine print on this deal just a little bit better before you start declaring it to be the things all of you are declaring it to be.

    @pac10 envy (LOL!)

    "Hard to beat the national broadcast exposure of every football game and every basketball game every year on ESPN, Fox, or the PAC-12 network"

    But of course in utah's case mostly the pac-10 network. And as utah fans are so fond of telling BYU fans no one will bother with it outside of the fans of the team involved. Now I realize that is good enough, if you are a utah fan and want to watch the game you really couldn't care less if anyone else watches it, just that you can watch it. That is the point.

    Maybe now utah "fans" can finally understand that.

  • PAC 12 loves U Sandy, Utah
    July 28, 2011 9:31 a.m.

    Great Scott! Larry does it again! Utah's new TV deal buries byu's TV deal. I love the idea of 6 regional networks and one national network (all football and basketball games will be nationally televised) and I also like the fact that the academics will be apart of the Pac-12 network. This will give the Pac-12 an opportunity to show the nation how prestigious the Pac-12 is both academically and athletically.

    Go Utes! Go Larry Scott! and Go Pac-12!

  • riddlemethis Clearfield, UT
    July 28, 2011 9:20 a.m.

    The quality of the broadcast on the Mtn was as bad as aiming an old camcorder at a mirror facing the field and then putting it on youtube. Now you can watch in HD on a tablet or smart phone?! From anywhere?! I can't speak for the Ute fans because Im a cougar fan but I'd be willing to bet even though this may cost a little more to get the whole shebang on your tv/tablet, after years of being stuck with the mountain 99.9 percent of the (ute) fans will eat it up. On its own it's awesome and compared to the mountain it's exponentially more awesome.

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    July 28, 2011 9:12 a.m.

    As a DirectTV customer I am in wait and see mode. I know Larry Scott said it is on its way, but any time Comcast tangles with DirectTV and/or Dish Network, something always goes bad. Scott has delivered and then some on his promises to date - so I expect he will get a DirectTV package together shortly.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    July 28, 2011 9:10 a.m.

    This is great!!! Such an improvement over what we've been suffering with in the MWC. I love the fact that the conference retained control and the digital access over the internet. This means the conference is free to update, upgrade, expand or do whatever is best for the conference and its members going forward. I also love the structure of the regional channels that will carry all the nationally broadcast events and fill in between with events of regional interest.

    This season will be exciting, but the future looks even brighter for next season. I look forward to the not too distant future when I will not have to miss a single Ute sporting event, unless I choose to.

    Go Utes!!

  • utesovertide Salt Lake City, UT
    July 28, 2011 8:52 a.m.

    Brave Sir Robin,

    You are correct. And in addition to cable and pending satellite deals, Scott also says telco's are in the mix. Which means the Verizon's and At&t's of the world will be involved where their networks offer television and internet services.

    Take a look at this. Texas thought they were leading the nation in football landscape disruption and laughing Larry Scott out of the state last year. But it is our schools that will basically have their own regional network channels (remember the Texas network will basically be regional), a national channel, internet access, and national coverage on Fox and ESPN, will broadcast High School sports if allowed, will broadcast other academic programming, and all make about the same in TV money (or more) as Texas does.

    So who really came out the winner? Larry Scott 1 Texas 0 (and that's coming from a longhorns fan).

    One thing sammyg left out is that if the Pac 12 regional networks are part of the Basic subscriptions, the cost is not stuck to just the fans but everyone in the region. So BYU fans might as well watch. They're "paying" for it too.

  • hymn to the silent Holladay, UT
    July 28, 2011 8:19 a.m.

    And the best part is exposure to Pac 12 fans across the Country...not just UofU fans living in Vermont.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    July 28, 2011 8:14 a.m.

    sammyg, I'm not sure how you can conclude the the Y's package is more "user-friendly" or "accessible". The BYUTV games will be fine - provided you know that BYUTV is on channel 6,124 and the game is sandwiched in the time slot between Lawrence Welk and Little House on the Prarie. The ESPN games are basically late-night infomercials - weeknights at odd hours.

    The PAC12 satellite coverage is still being worked out, but the comissioner has already said that it will be on basic satellite packages. How can he say that? Because unlike the Mountain (where the rights were owned by Comcast), the league still owns the rights to the PAC Channel.

    I guess we'll just chalk up your comments to wearing blue glasses...is that a fair assessment?

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    July 28, 2011 8:10 a.m.

    On June 2, 2011 Duckhunter posted this challenge:

    "But I am absolutely willing to wager the following. The pac10 network will not be available nationwide next year. Keep in mind nationwide means that no matter where you live in the nation you have access to it. But to give you a fighting chance let's say if it is avaiable in just 75% of the households in the country I will not post on a single ute article all season."

    Duckhunter, looks like you lost lost the wager. When will you stop posting on Ute articles? Honestly, sometimes I will miss you but a promise is a promise.

    Go Larry Scott!! Go Utes!!

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    July 28, 2011 7:13 a.m.

    From a NYTimes article...

    "The regional networks will be carried in Pac-12 markets on expanded basic cable; the national network in Pac-12 states will be shown on digital basic, and the national network will be seen on digital sports tiers, which require extra fees, in non-Pac 12 states and markets."

    Someone always pays... and in the end its always the fan. Higher ticket prices, sports apparel, concessions, tv packages, Sunday play, etc.

    Several will say "who cares?"

    I would say that BYU's package is considerably more 'user-friendly' and accessible to more people than the Pac 10.2 Network.

    For the local fan who has cable tv it sounds great. Satellite coverage has not been announced and could cost something over a basic package.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    July 28, 2011 6:28 a.m.

    Great news for the Utes! Congrats on a great TV deal! Both the Y and the Utes are definitely moving up to bigger and better things. Hope they both become wildly successful in the future. The future is so very exciting for both schools. Go Cougs! Go Utes!

  • nosaerfoecioveht NSL, UT
    July 28, 2011 3:38 a.m.

    I thought all of our games for the next decade were only on Versus? Apparently I was misinformed.

  • Matt1986 MIDVALE, UT
    July 28, 2011 2:14 a.m.

    How I basically understand it that the Pac-12 Networks will similarily to how FSN works. The Pac-12 "Mountain" Network - ironic name isn't it - will carry all of the programming and sporting events that the national Pac-12 Network shows plus additional programming and sporting events that center around Utah and Colorado. These events include Spring Football games (it's about time), possibly high school football games (a huge recruiting advantage), Olympic Sports (like Utah Gymnastics, who is now a Pac-12 member and no longer and independent), and things like educational and lifestyle programming centered around us and CU. The regional network will be on basic Comcast Cable in Utah (maybe in the current Mtn. spot?), while the national network will be located in the digital sports tier range. The national network seems to be really geared towards people in non-Pac-12 markets that want to watch Pac-12 sports that are not carried on the ESPN "family of networks" or the Fox Sports Networks (FOX TV Network, Fox Sports on FX, Root Sports Rocky Mountain). The best part is the digital aspect that allows for all mobile devices to watch the network.

  • SouthernUtahUte Hurricane, UT
    July 28, 2011 12:47 a.m.

    National exposure, AND BCS access all in the same package?

    And somehow going independent is better than being in the PAC-12...

    I'm probably a little out of line for calling it how it is, fans of Notre Dame @ Provo.

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    July 28, 2011 12:13 a.m.

    Remember that time when the Utes were on the Mountain, but mainstream cable companies didn't carry the mountain so watching Ute games were really difficult? And remember how when the cable companies finally did carry the mountain how crappy the coverage was? Ya, I'm glad the Utes aren't on the Mountain any more, enjoy your stay in oblivion Boise State.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    July 27, 2011 11:56 p.m.

    The Pac-12 network will be available on BASIC cable in the conference's six-state footprint. The new deal also includes TV everywhere rights, permitting the networks to be viewed outside customers homes on any digital device, such as smartphones and tablet computers.

    The Pac-12... there's an app for that.

  • PAC-12 Envy Taylorsville, UT
    July 27, 2011 11:33 p.m.

    Hard to beat the national broadcast exposure of every football game and every basketball game every year on ESPN, Fox, or the PAC-12 network.

  • Steve_Timmins LAS VEGAS, NV
    July 27, 2011 11:14 p.m.

    Wow. Way to be right on top of this story D-News. You were a healthy 8 hours ahead of every other major rag. Oops. Never mind, that would be 8 hours behind. You guys usually do a better job than the others but dropped the ball on this one.

    Anyway, I'm uneasy about anything called "The Mountain" but this definitely sounds like a home run. Living outside of the state, it sounds like I should still be able to see every game. Sign me up!