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Published: Monday, July 25 2011 9:58 p.m. MDT

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Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

Faith...

This means that people of faith typically adhere to higher 'moral' standards.

And that is not evident in the actions of the GOP:

*'Gingrich pressed on affair' - 02/23/11 - CNN
"You adamantly oppose gay rights... but you've also been married three times and admitted to having an affair with your current wife while you were still married to your second," Friedman said....'

*(Arnold) 'Schwarzenegger, Who Spoke Out Against Single Mothers and Vetoed Gay Marriage Bills, Fathered Child Out of Wedlock' - By Julianne Escobedo Shepherd - Alter Net - 05/17/11

*(Mark) Sanford Admits Affair After Secret Argentina Trip' - 06/24/09 - Fox News

*'Nevada senator, facing ethics probe, says he'll resign' - NBC News - 04/21/11
'Republican Ensign admitted having an affair with wife of one of his aides'

*'Sen. Vitter Apologizes for Number Showing Up on Phone Records of Alleged Prostitution Ring' - Fox News - 07/10/07

That last one?

Still in office.

JoeBlow
Miami Area, Fl

Pagan, Your list is misleading.

What I hope is for people to be consistent. Call out the bad in either party.

I think what you are trying to show is that the GOP tries to tout themselves as the Moral party but fails in that regard.

In reality, they are just as likely as the Dems to have moral transgressions.

I also dislike the hypocricy in politics and those who want to blame all of our countries woes on one party.

In reality, both parties are failing our country.

Until people wake up and start holding their own party accountable, nothing will change.

The article highlights the GOP dilemma. They have to move so far right to get the GOP nod, that they will have little chance with the moderates in a general election.

FDRfan
Sugar City, ID

"They consider themselves modern-day apostles and prophets, blessed with the same gifts as Old Testament prophets or New Testament apostles.The pastors told Perry of Gods grand plan for Texas. A chain of powerful prophecies had proclaimed that Texas was The Prophet State, anointed by God to lead the United States into revival and Godly government. And the governor would have a special role."

The rest, except Jon Huntsman, gets their marching orders from Norquest and Limbaugh. And the Republicans are so confident in taking over all 3 branches that compromise is impossible.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'What I hope is for people to be consistent. Call out the bad in either party.' - JoeBlow | 6:12 a.m. July 26, 2011

I would as well.

However, Nancy Pelosi was the first to call an investigation into Anthony Weiner for 'sexting'...

but no one says anything about Republican David Vitter.

Double. Standard.

RanchHand
Huntsville, UT

"A candidate's religious identification ... should be of little or no concern regarding the candidates' qualification to serve as president," said Rev. Welton Gaddy, President of Interfaith Alliance, a group that champions individual rights and religious freedom. "No candidate should be judged, either the worthiest or un-worthiest for the presidency, on the basis of that candidate's religion or religious affiliations."

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Amen Reverend!!! (as a gay man, am I allowed to say "amen"?)

sharrona
layton, UT

Ranch Hand: Evangelical(Good message/Gospel in KJV)Christians. The great commission(Mt 28:19) Jesus commands it. What if the disciples never left Jerusalem? Christians are not secret service agents.

But whoever denies me(Christ) before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven. (Mt 10:33).

The right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness should be grounded in a Christians essential beliefs as well as a Mormons. Bible believing Catholics and Evangelicals agree , no flip flopping here(Romney). For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mothers womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. ( Psalm 139:13-14 NIV). (Judgment) Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least(elachistos*1646) of these, ye did it not to me.(MT 25:45). Applicable to*smallest least, in size,(abortion)

RanchHand
Huntsville, UT

@sharrona;

I'm not sure I get your reference.

Anyway, I didn't want to get struck by lightning and all that for using a word that we've (glbt) been forbidden to use. After all, we're denied the use of the word "marriage", I'm simply not clear any more on what words we're allowed to use. Is there anyone out there with a valid glbt-friendly dictionary these days? I wouldn't want to offend anyone; after all, so many believe it's their constitutional right to not be offended by us.

the truth
Holladay, UT

RE: Pagan

Your assertion is false.

they do not adehere higher moral values.,

they strive for them.

Failing meet those higher standards does NOT make one hypocrite. Noen of us are perfect, noe have claimed perfection.

That is NOT the definition of "hypocrite"

So unless you can come up with something each indvidual has said about a specific value and then did differently from said value, you are wasting our time.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'So unless you can come up with something each indvidual has said about a specific value and then did differently from said value, you are wasting our time.' - the truth | 6:39 p.m. July 26, 2011

...ok!

*'Gingrich Says He Cheated on His Wife' - AP - Published by NY Times - 03/09/07

'WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich acknowledged he was having an extramarital affair even as he led the charge against President Clinton over the Monica Lewinsky affair...(sic)
'Gingrich argued in the interview, however, that he should not be viewed as a hypocrite for pursuing Clinton's infidelity.'

*(Arnold) 'Schwarzenegger, Who Spoke Out Against Single Mothers and Vetoed Gay Marriage Bills, Fathered Child Out of Wedlock' - By Julianne Escobedo Shepherd - Alter Net - 05/17/11

Ensign, also trying to get Clinton impeached...

while failing to resign over his own adultery scandal.

How many examples would you like?

Of people touting their 'higher moral standards', while doing the exact, same thing they accuse OTHERS of doing?

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