@ Draft dumbie Your not dumb at all. I agree if they don't sign Fes they
are not serious about the matchups championship basketball requires in a seven
game series againts the contenders in todays NBA. You have to defend the paint.
Good insite thanks.
If the Jazz do not re-sign Fez, it will be a sign that they don't think they
have a chance to do anything in the playoffs for many years. Going deep into
the playoffs is a matter of matchups, and a team needs to pick up role players
for the purpose of important matchups. Even though two of the really big NBA
centers retired this year (Shaq and Yao Ming), there are still a couple of
really big centers in the league that could give teams fits in the
playoffs--Andrew Bynum with LA and Marc Gasol of Memphis.None of the
other centers on the Jazz have the bulk and size to effectively guard either one
of those guys. Although Fesenko clearly has his faults and has not developed as
quickly as a lot of fans (and perhaps Jazz management) would like, he still
gives the Jazz something that a lot of teams just don't have--a really big
center who can effectively guard other really big centers.And, as
some other comments have pointed out, he oftentimes is also very effective at
shutting down the paint against teams who have players who can go to the hole.
@TerryHaimesEveryone has an opinion...i know that...but believing
that Kanter is a mistake...is probably wrong...have you seen him play with the
team yet? Hold all your doubts until you've seen the guy play for 2 years...Its
unfair if you judge rookies like that...yeah they may be new...but that doesnt
mean they dont have the skills...you gave Fesenko four years...better give
Kanter his 4 before doubting him...i noticed this on Jazz Fans...everyone is
quick to shoot an unheard rookie down...examples...John Stockton...and the
recent Gordon Hayward...who exploded down the stretch at the end of the
season...I also saw this guy on Film...blaming management when they drafted
stockton...Come on People...don't you know how to be positive for once?...am i
the only one here...who thinks the Lineup is scary good? and yes...i am not a
fan of Fesenko...since he reminds me of Greg Ostertag...but if you play him on
certain matchups...his bulk and height are assets...but unless he gets his head
straight...im not willing to give him 20 mins...
He is the only person that I know of that can deal with Howard, Nene and the
often injured fellow with the Lakers. Problem is Jazz have a glut up front and
will probably bet the farm on Kantor which I believe to be a mistake.Some say that Pat Riley didn't take over the coaching duties again because he
doesn't believe you can win it all without a dominating center. They are
probably saying that Dallas proved him right.All you Fesenko
doubters get a copy of the Majic game in Orlando.
This guy is big...physically he is an amazing force....mentally and emotionally,
something is not connecting for this man.I still think he he could
settle in somewhere and have a career. Maybe Denver or Houston....maybe
Afgahnastan, or Madagascar???
The Jazz are not stupid. Fess will not be back.
The problem is...if...and that's a big IF...there's an NBA Season this
year...There would be so few minutes to spare at the 4-5...Kanter Jefferson Memo
Favors and Millsap would get those minutes...but even if...Fes isnt that
good...you just cant teach size and bulk...even if he is frustrating to
watch...with the way the lineup is...someone's gotta give...and i Think Millsap
is getting ready to be a SF
I would like to see Fes get another chance here if Corbin would use and develop
him. Jerry Sloan never would give him much of a chance even after he proved he
could shut down the paint and guard the rim. I too became frustrated with the
rash of petty injuries but I believe Sloans treatment of him had something to do
with his lack of desire. The guy could be a valuable backup center on a team
that is willing to use him and make him feel like he is part of the team.
The weakness in the argument of the Fes haters is that even with his offensive
ineptness and underwhelming off-court work ethic, the team did better with him
on the court than off it, more often than not. And it's not like the likes of
Jefferson (and previously Okur and Boozer) had any semblance of policing the
paint like Fes did. Time after time, the paint shut down when Fes was on the
court, and defensively his biggest problem was being too aggressive at times,
whereas the alternatives were content with matador D.If Sloan and
Corbin had used him more strategically for 10 minutes (when he was doing poorly)
to 20 minutes (when he was tearing it up) per game, then he would've developed
better. If Sloan and Corbin had used the entire team more strategically --
analyzing matchups, carefully orchestrating substitutions, and enforcing
performance on the court -- Utah would have had a significantly better record.
(Last year, the consolation was a #3 pick; in previous years, though, it meant
being cheated out of a deeper run in the playoffs and likely a ring or two.)
I think the kid should stay on. He really wasn't given a chance to play much.
Even with the losing season, and where games really didn't mean anything at the
end, they should have given the younger kids more playing time. I want to see
some hard nosed play like Ol' Bill Lamber used to dish out Foul someone HARD
already!! Bunch of puss-n-boot prima donnas..
I guess I should have said better than some of the 3rd string centers in the
The Fesenko experiment didn't pan out for the Jazz, that does not mean that
other teams won't want to take a chance on him. The Jazz are loaded at the 4-5!
Fes never improved as a Jazz-man, so why would we keep the guy to sit at the
end of the bench? I am on the Enes Kanter band-wagon now! GO JAZZ!
Not much of a loss,he never worked hard and never lived up to expectations,kinda
like a big version of cj miles,adios and hopefully take miles with you
Let's hope his coaches listen to so many seasoned and intelligent Jazz fans who
will be the first to tell you that, if Jerry Sloan would have simply given Fes
the keys to the caddy and built the team around him, he would have turned into
the next Hakeem Olajuwan. (Note: This is being written with tongue firmly
planted in left cheek and eyes rolling heavenward.)
I'd like to see Fes stay with the Jazz. But since there is no NBA, I see no
reason why Fes shouldn't move on. The NBA and the NBAPA are barely even
acknowledging each other's existence. Free agents who are interested in playing
basketball again this year really should be looking outside of the NBA.
I wouldn't say he is better than most 2nd or 3rd centers (just to list a few
Jazz centers... Collins, Carr, Foster, Manning...all hands down better than
Fess) He really wasn't ever that good. He just has potential to be good.
I hope he comes back. A lot of big guys have struggled at the free throw line:
Wilt, Russell, Shaq. I am not saying he is one of those guys but he can be
productive, even while missing free throws. I can take him for what he is: 2nd
or 3rd center. He is better than most in the league at that role.....and that
is all he is being paid to be. He still has a lot of up-side.
Whoever said that Fesenko was an NBA calibre player? He is ludicrous anyway you
look at it. He isn't even a journeyman practice player. Goodbye and see you
later my friend. The guy is a joke. Can't practice on his own and at least
should a close in hook shot and shot 70% plus in free throws? The NBA is going
to turn into a Euro-Western Hemosphere league if this keeps on going the way the
draft happened this year. Until the league owners and players union get their
act together, this league is going to get very ugly. These overpriced prima
donas along with the $100 plus jersies, shoes and other paraphenalia is
sickening. Ticket prices are beyond belief. And all the beer and other
products supporting this phoney baloney. The season is far too long. We'll
probably get a settlement and have 60 games left to play. That is more than
long enough. All of these professional leagues are alienating the fans with
their work stoppages and disagreements.
Good bye and good ridance. For those of you that think he could still be usefull
I have some beach front property just outside Malad.
I'll miss Fes. I didn't realize he's only 24... I wouldn't mind if he stayed
around for the league minimum. I saw great improvement in him last year. He
just struggles to finish plays, once he can learn to do that he could contribute
to an NBA team.
Is this a temporary thing while the lockout drags on (a la Deron Williams), or
is he quitting the NBA for good to go home?
Considering he never had coach that would coach him... but then
what center ever developed under sloan in 23 years? (remember eaton was before
sloan, give credit to frank layden)
Best of luck to the kid. Hopefully the moderators do not censor this post like
they do all my other posts.
Dasvidanya (the best I could spell goodbye in Russian/Ukranian)
He hasn't signed yet, and I hope he doesn't sign with the Ukranian team. If you
read this Fes, know that you still have supporters among Utah fans. I want to
see you back, and I want to see you improve here as a Jazzman. As always, good
luck, and as always, keep working on those free throws.
I don't care how big he is he missed more games over stupid stuff than any
player on the team. Sick, bump on the head, some girl at school hurt his
feelings. Hardly tough enough to center a defense.The team last
year was too soft especially on defense we need to add some toughness here.
I'm shattered....wait, no I'm not.
See you Fez.
This guy presents quite the quandry. His size and athletic talent
(in relation to his size) are mouth-watering.His work ethic and
on-the-court performance make O'Connor throw up in his mouth.He
still can't shoot a free throw to save his soul but you can't teach size. If
the Jazz could sign him for cheap/around league minimum amount then he is a
worthwhile deep bench role player for spot minutes.We have been
waiting several years now and there has not been alot of improvement...some but
not alot.Too bad----given the tools has you have to say it is more
his own fault for not improving.