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Published: Wednesday, July 20 2011 12:00 a.m. MDT

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SuperArcher
Lehi, Utah

Hatch conservative? Disagree.

Matheson liberal? Disagree.

Matheson is more in the middle, a centrist which is what our country needs right now. Hatch, on the other hand, is far tooliberal, more than Matheson.

Curmudgeon
Salt Lake City, UT

This letter is wrong on many counts:
1. Chaffetz would not split the Republican vote in the general election, as his fight with Hatch would take place in the primary.
2. Chaffetz's commitment in the House of Representatives is for two years only, as that is the maximum term for any representative.
3. Matheson is not a liberal Democrat. Far from it. Ever heard of the blue dogs?
4. Hatch would head the finance committee only if Republicans gain the majority in the Senate.
5. Being head of the finance committee provides no benefit specific to Utah.

Certainly Hatch should go. But replacing him with Chaffetz would not improve the Senate, the nation, nor Utah. It's unfortunate that the Republicans can't come up with any better alternatives.

Esquire
Springville, UT

History shows that if Hatch was committee chairman, the Finance Committee would have a big spender as chairman. Chaffetz would surely continue the Republican tradition of talking about spending cuts, then voting for spending on GOP pet programs. In either case, I would like to think that Utah could do better than either of these lifetime politicians, but my expectations are not high on this point.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Mr. Hatch is 76 years old. How many people who are 76 years old hold a position like Mr. Hatch? People retire at 65 for a reason. Their bodies wear out. Their ability to think clearly diminishes.

I'm in the computer business. I have written massive programs, hundreds of thousands of lines long. When I was younger, I could keep all parts of those massive programs in my mind at the same time and quickly and efficiently write viable code. Now, I use two screens on my computer. If the code isn't on those screens, it doesn't exist as far as my mind is concerned.

Not everyone ages the same way or at the same rate, but just listen to Mr. Hatch in a radio interview. Anyone can tell that he already struggles to answer questions coherently. It will only get worse.

A Senator's term is six years. He will be 84 in 2018.

Do we really think that he is so valuable that NOT ONE PERSON in Utah can handle the job of Senator other than Mr. Hatch?

Emophiliac
Vernal, UT

All of these arguments seem to go against what Hatch was arguing when he ran against Frank Moss.

I Choose Freedom
Atlanta, GA

It is time for someone that truly believes in and votes in accordance with the Constitution. Hatch is not that man. It is time for him to go!!!

Flashback
Kearns, UT

Hatch a liberal? Hardly.

Andy
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I'm a republican delegate and I'm not so sure Hatch should go.

I voted against Bennett because he was on the banking committee when Wall Street was going crazy, he is a sophisticated business man who understands CDO's etc and he should have better headed those who warned him against the collapse. Basically he was fired for not doing his job.

I don't have any such beef with Hatch, and I don't like Chaffetz. That guys is a snake oil salesman.

I'll see who else runs and keep an open mind as to who to vote for, assuming I'm re-delegated,

Grover
Salt Lake City, UT

Hatch has taken so many natural supplements over the years that he could live to be 100! I am guessing however that they were provided to him (and then some) for free for his work keeping them from being regulated by the FDA.

Great Horned Owl
Spanish Fork, UT

Andy,

I'm also a State Delegate, and one of the silliest things of Hatch's whole re-election campaign this time is my having to wonder if you're one of the lucky paid social media brigade amongst rank and file GOP precinct leaders that Hatch's campaign has been semi-transparently paying $2500 a month to simply troll Facebook and online news sites and make positive remarks about his record.

Probably not, and so consequently I'd invite you to take a look at the kind of votes and rhetoric Hatch has supported on his way to being a "leader" in various committees. I'm not a huge Chaffetz fan either (in fact I keep hoping the GOP candidate pool will open up a bit more with some better choices) but Chaffetz already has a better record on many key issues where Hatch parrots Bennet's worn-out lines:

"Well I couldn't vote that way *yet*" (after more than 30 years of preparation) "because party leadership still wasn't in line with the higher ideals you are talking about" . . . blah blah blah -- that represents a *lack* of leadership capability. Maybe that *was* the way things working in his day, but we have better choices now.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

Hatch should go.

Herbal Tea Partier
Kearns, UT

I agree with letter. Hatch is a national treasure who does his homework above and beyond what is expected. He will have the opportunity to head the budge committee which hasn't had a conservative leading it for a long time (obviously).

Chaffetz is a good guy, but very young and a bit naive and brash. He didn't seem to have the good sense to know not to tell off-color jokes at a delegate dinner I attended. No one laughed. But he means well. He's a strong conservative and former football player.

The House of Representatives is meant to change frequently to keep the voice of the people fresh. The House of Senate is meant to have experienced leaders in there. Admittedly, a lot of them should be voted out. But Hatch is not one of them.

As for Matheson, he is a "blue dog democrat." And he has voted conservative for a number of things, but not all. It takes him a while to understand the issues. But if he stays right-centrist, he may continue to be a good voice for Utah.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

hatch is only conservative the last 18 months of each term.

matheson, while not as liberal as some, would further BO's destructive agenda and keep clown prince harry as majority leader were he elected to the senate.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

What a pathetic figure is Sen. Hatch as he tries to pander to the T Party types who are now squealing about paying their debts. The original Tea Party was against paying illegal taxes. The current Tea party is the opposite -- they just don't want to pay their debts! My dad called people like that "deadbeats."

no fit in SG
St.George, Utah

Hatch should stay home, far away from Washington DC.

T. Party
Pleasant Grove, UT

I cannot imagine any set of circumstances that would cause me to vote for Orrin Hatch. He simply must go.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Mike Richards | 7:17 a.m. July 20, 2011
South Jordan, Utah
Mr. Hatch is 76 years old.

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Nice rant.

So then....why do you keep voting for him?

Don't tell me, it's because of the (R) next to his name.

Smeller 's the feller....

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

It's 4:00 p.m. so it must be shift-change at the Deseret News when the moderator lets LDS Liberal violate every rule that the rest of us have to abide by. Nothing changes except the date.

L White
Springville, UT

Well, isn't that interesting? Mr. LDS Liberal would rather that we vote for someone whose party platform endorses the aborting of babies over someone like Mr. Hatch.

If Mr. Hatch were to somehow win the Primary and actually appear on the ballot for the general election, you can be sure that I would never vote for a Democrat or for any other candidate whose PARTY tells us that it is perfectly acceptable to abort babies even if Mr. LDS Liberal demands that we accept the "law". When they have no respect for the unborn, their next target is the aged. Oh, wait, Mr. Obama has already thrown the aged and the Vets under the bus. He told us that he could not guarantee that he would send out Social Security checks or checks to the Vets.

Just let him try to play a round of golf or try to fly around the country on Air Force ONE campaigning if he stops payments to our seniors and our Vets.

That WILL cost him the election!

freedomingood
provo, Utah

You know why god gave women the ability to give birth? Because he knew men couldn't handle it. Decribing a pro-choice candidate and being in favor of abortion is like saying a pro gun candidate is pro murder. After all what are guns for?

Not infringing on a freedom is not the same as endorsing what one does with that freedom. I would think "conservatives" could understand that.

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