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Published: Wednesday, July 20 2011 10:39 p.m. MDT

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Milo P Otis
West Jordan, UT

Why worry about what others refer to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints?

LKA
Tremonton, UT

All faiths no matter what they believe in should at least have respect. This includes the lady (respectful) on Fox news. Name calling and bulling are just an old playground tactic.

shopporama
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

I wonder if that poodle comment is going anywhere (because I WAS thinking of getting a dog).

Utah Girl
Vernal, UT

Fantastic response, Bro. Otterson! I, too, get a little annoyed...actually a lot annoyed...when people without knowledge continue to refer to my beloved church as a "cult". It definitely is NOT, and anyone who thinks it is just has not taken the time, nor made the effort, to do their own research. Lack of critical thinking! To continually parrot what others have said, without doing one's own research, is laziness.

LDSareChristians
Anchorage, AK

If you Google "Jesus Christ", guess which religions site is listed 1st after the top few secular sites?

christoph
Brigham City, UT

To Milo Otis: why should we care? Because we are a missionary minded faith, and therefore we care how we are perceived. And truth matters.

junkgeek
Agua Dulce, TX

@Christophe -

Sure, it's informative to see what we're called, but it's hardly worth the effort to respond.

Joggle
Clearfield, UT

Though Mormonism does essentially fit three traditional definitions of what a cult is, those definitions are inadequate to society's view of what a cult is. If we follow standard definitions, we can call Mormonism as well as anything else we want to, a cult. However, when we realize that the particular beliefs of a church do not a cult make, and we understand what we ourselves view as a cult, we can see that this is not the case.

The LDS Church is not a cult and is much more than a religious movement or a sect. Instead, it is a new and legitimate faith in and of itself. In the process of its evolution, the LDS Church has taken the next great step along the same path its Abrahamic cousins have already traveled.

Although I'm anti organized religion as a whole rather than anti any specific religion....my idea of a true cult lies with groups such as Jim Jones People's Temple, the David Koresh Branch Davidians, the Heaven's Gate group who are all on the extreme end of the religious spectrum.

John Pack Lambert of Michigan
Ypsilanti, MI

We are told in the scriptures that there are those who are kept from the truth by the craftiness of men. One example of this is the false designation of groups as "cults".

It is important to create a situation where people will be receptive to the gospel, and this is done by challenging needlessly laoaded and negative wording in the media.

John Pack Lambert of Michigan
Ypsilanti, MI

The "mind control" nature of the cult theory has been largely discredited. The only true violation of people's rights in most of the context of groups labeled cults has been from the anti-cult extremists who engage in kidnapping people who have chosen to join a new religion and forcing them through "deprogramming".

Sadly the media still perpetuates false notions about how "cults" are formed. The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of people in all movements are participating willingly. This applies from Scientology to Raelism and many other movements.

We need to remember that giving governments the power to suppress any religion will give them the power to suppress all reliigons.

Doctor
Tucson, AZ

Otterson said, "I am equally uncomfortable with some aspects of traditional, orthodox Christianity, which was the very issue that gave rise to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the first place." I beg to differ. What gave rise to the LDS church was a belief God appeared to Joseph Smith. Absent that, no amount of uncomfortableness would have resulted in the LDS church.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

When Otterson complains about the use of the term "cult" when referring to Mormonism, he is making one fundamental mistake - he is assuming journalism is widely practiced in the world. Unfortunately it is not. Repeated soundbites and opinion pieces masquarade as journalism, but they are not journalism.

christoph
Brigham City, UT

To Doctor: when the church was founded in 1830, few converts knew about Joseph's vision of the Father and Son-------I could be wrong, but details of that vision did not come until later-----in my view, the Book of Mormon (which few people read in the 1830's both inside and outside the church) and the idea of a modern prophet brought the first converts into the church----and many were longing for the same church that had existed 18 centuries earlier.

Moderate
Salt Lake City, UT

If you Google "Jesus Christ", guess which religions site is listed 1st after the top few secular sites?

Wow. That's amazing. Could it because "Jesus Christ" appears in the name of the church?

Now I'm going to Google "General Motors" and see what world automotive company is listed first.

Brer Rabbit
Spanish Fork, UT

My question is, does blind obedience to its leaders make the LDS Church a cult? And if so do the LDS Church leaders expect blind obedience from the members? Often we hear, "When the prophet speaks debate is ended." Is this blind obedience? Blind obedience is a characteristic of a cult. I personally do not believe in blind obedience, but I know many church members that do.

The recent LDS Church position on illegal immigration, especially as many see it as in conflict with Church doctrine, (12th Article of Faith) has confused many on this principle of obedience. My comments are in no way meant as an attack on the Church but questions.

Finally, growing up I was taught not to worry about what others said or thought about me, but to do what was right in spite of them. Is the Church overly concerned about what others think and say?

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

For my part I refused to allow anyone to refer the Mormons or LDS and Christians as two different things. I always politely say something like; "You are referring to Mormons and Christians as if they are two different things. For the record Mormons are Christians." If they object to that statement they quickly discover that I stand my ground. I have never yet had anyone, minister included, that could back up their claim that the LDS faith is not Christian.

I will gladly share the label of Christian with members of other faiths; however, I will not allow them sole ownership as that would simply be a lie.

Michigander
Westland, MI

The Utah LDS church is a HERETICAL mutation from pure Restoration Christianity of 1820-1830.

Kass
SLC, UT

So, the only example they could come up with is not even an example of someone referring to the LDS Church as a cult but someone saying some people think the LDS Church is a cult?

Wow. Really sounds like something you need to be putting some time and effort into....

(And this story just increased the number of hits for a google of "Mormon" and "cult." Sometimes you can be your own worse enemy.)

Mayfair
City, Ut

"...that play perfectly into the kind of rigid stereotypes beloved of the ignorant and bigoted. Journalists could and should do better than perpetuate this kind of shallowness when referring to the fourth largest church in the United States. Rather than continuing to parrot it, it's time they pushed back against those who choose to use it."

What a choice of words! BRILLIANT!! Touche!

Oatmeal
Woods Cross, UT

Junkgeek wrote: "Sure, it's informative to see what we're called, but it's hardly worth the effort to respond."

Please explain that comment to a Jew or African-American. Bigotry is bigotry and the truth matters, and if you don't stand up now, you may not be able to in the future.

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