Bingham's schedule is really easy. All of the away games are at the some of the
easiest teams in 5A. It's the entire other way around for Lone Peak. Lone Peak's
away games are the toughest teams in it's region. Its funny to me that Bingham
is already talking about vsing lone peak when its playing Alta early on. Listen
Bingham, lets look forward to getting beat by lone peak after you get beat by
Alta. Opinions of course but seriously Bingham's secondary is going to get eaten
alive by all the passing teams. I seriously think Alta is being really
underestimated, they looked great at 7on7 camps. GL to all teams. Go LP!
Layton looking at a tough pre-season schedule with Hunter, Jordan, Timpview and
Bingham. Could be 0-4 rolling into the regular season. Go Layton!
Football just 2 1/2 weeks away!!!
redandwhiteThe new season doesn't start with Juan Diego or Pine
View. Juan Diego has good coaching and a pipeline of kids, but so does Timpview
and look what happened to them last year in 4A. 3A will be very competitive
this year with the teams added through reclassification. DNews rankings are
pretty close with top three being Juan Diego, Hurricane and Pine View, but there
are other schools who will put decent teams on the field this season including
Park City, Desert Hills and Spanish Fork.
3A always starts with Juan Diego if Pine View thinks they have a cakewalk good
luck with that. I am sure the team won't think that. Very good teams in 3A this
year good luck to all! Go Miners!!
Region 9#1 In 3A and Region 9 , Pine View. This year will be a cake
walk for Pine View. They spent the last few years in 4A and held their own in
state play. Sorry in advance to the rest of region 9.
I dont think bingham will be as good this year as they were last year. They are
a great team and congrats on all you have accomplished,but in my opinion if they
want a repeat its going to be alot harder this year then you think,there are
alot of good schools out there,that are gunning for you. and its true, you are
the best till someone proves you wrong.so good luck miners I wish you all the
As a person close to the Timpview football program in no way does Tbirds4lyfe
speak for this years team in calling out Alta by saying "IT"S
ON!!!" Also in no way do we want to say anything close to sounding negative
about Hunter or Springville who are both teams we extremely respect. Do we think
our team will be good? Yes, but so does everyone else this time of year as they
should. The T-Birds still have several spots to fill and a tough preseason to
get through first and foremost. Best of luck to every team in Utah this year!
This year the T-Birds will rise again! I can't wait for the season to begin as
well as having Springville in our region this year. That way we don't have
'HOPE' we play them again in the playoffs but rather pay them back early. For
those that thought we were going to slowly go away, I'm sorry to disappoint you
as HUNTER will tell you otherwise after our scrimmage (mind you I understand
they are adjusting to Coach Hamilton's system). I also truly think 4A
will be more fun to watch again this year as Bingham and Alta are by far the
class of 5A. In 4A, I think it's wide open! The usual suspects will be there
(Timp, Mountain Crest, Springville, Bountiful, Highland) but with the addition
of Skyline and the return of East, Olympus and WX, it's going to be a dog
fight.And no one better sleep on Westlake (no doubt one of the top 3
D-Lines in the state period). If the qb comes back, they are as good as any
team in the state. Cottonwood better be ready for them or they will get
embarassed!For Alta, "IT'S ON"!!!
@jbkhbrmzWith the talk of Cedar, have you heard where Ursua is going
to be this year? We're hearing rumors up here in Utah county that he's back at
Westlake, but I don't have any kids in the school anymore all that interested in
football so they didn't know if he was in camp with the Thunder or had stayed at
re: speaking out.You asked if "a team has scholarship players
is that any indication if they will be good?"No, I think that
just because a team has Div 1 talent and kids with scholarship offers means they
are really bad. That has to be the dumbest question of the year.
I know that Alta has three players this year who have D-1 commitments already.
Rhett Sandlin to BYU, Austin Lee to U of U and Steven Richards to BYU. Are
there other teams with several players who have scholarship offers already?
And, if so, is this any indication at all about how good their teams will be
this year? Just wondering.
hohumI agree with your assessment of region 9 for the most part, but
I'm not too sure about Cedar at #2. Obviously, Coach Peacock will get the most
out of the talent, but I think they overachieved last year, and they lost a lot
of good seniors. I have also heard that they have some key players that might be
ineligible. I think Hurricane and Desert Hills will both be better than Cedar.
Hurricane lost a lot to graduation, but they have some good kids coming up and
always do a great job coaching. Desert Hills has a lot of talent and should
contend for the region title. I agree Pine View is loaded. I think Dixie will be
improved greatly. Coach Monkers does a good job and their young quarterback is
growing into a stud. Should be very interesting down South this year.
Re: 2A sports fanYou're from Blanding so I was hoping you could tell us.
I don't really see anyone challenging them in their region though (unless they
really have a drop off from last years team). Just looking at it, it
looks like they lost their QB, leading rusher & receiver, & leaders on
defense. But, the way they are coached & how those boys step up, I wouldn't
count them out. They're my pick to win the region & until another team
steps up or SJ faulters they deserve the #1 spot.Why don't you enlighten
Im friends really good friends with the coaching staff at Bingham and they said
that Lail has been tearing it up. I went to some JV games last year and Lail did
great. JV has no effect of what anyone will do this year. Nothing that you do in
JV shows how you will be in a varsity game. Just like nothing you do in high
school Proves you will be a great college player. Its the Intangibles and Lail
has all of those for sure. He had a great camp and will have a great season.
Bingham's offense wont change. They might not score in the 50s each game but
they have the potential to be in the 40s week in and week out. With that
coaching staff they should never be the underdog, They are always prepared and
have better schemes. Please no more talk about little league, it means nothing!
Guess I will throw in a little 3A banter. You have region 9 back to the way it
should have been for the last three years. Going to be one of the best regions
in the state. Pine View is loaded, Cedar and Hurricane will be competitive,
Dixie young, Snow Canyon is unknown, Desert Hills returns some Canyon View seems
to suffer.Pine View has massive offensive line, experienced qb,
running back and some recievers. Defensive 7 starters back, should be good with
two move ins, one from LV and the state 100, 200, 400 and long jump champion
from Idaho. Predictoions:1. Pine View2.
Cedar3. Hurricane4. Desert Hills5. Snow Canyon6. Dixie7. Canyon View
How does San Juan look this year?
The toughest chore for Alta this year, is dealing with the replacement of Coach
Les Hamilton. Hopefully the transition will be minimal, as the new coach has
been with Alta since Les got there. He knows the players, and knows how to coach
an offense. Defensive coach is new so we'll have to see how the defense adjusts.
With all of that being said though, Alta is loaded this year with talent. They
are a Senior and Juinior laden team with a ton of talented players and depth at
every position. I have to agree with Gunner in that Alta should be the team to
beat this year, if the team gels with the new head coach. My bet is that they
will.Also, for those of you in Region 2, watch out for Hunter this
year, and years to come. Les Hamilton is probably one the two best coaches in
the state, next to Dave Peck. He knows how to motivate and he knows how to coach
a football team. Very sad to have seen parents force him out of Alta, but he
will be very successful at Hunter. Watch out for the Wolverines
Parry, I'd rather not give the year to keep some anonymity. But if you were a
freshmen when they opened WJ, I am probably about 4-5 years younger than you. I
also went to Bingham as a 9th grader as well. I played with a ton of kids from
WJ in little league prior to the WJ split. We lost a boat load of talent from
that split. The Herriman split is nothing even close to what Bingham lost when
the WJ split happened. I agree, Alta will take a huge hit once the new H.S. is
built. You probably know my brothers and cousins if you graduated in 81.
Gunner is correct. The HHS boundary took mostly Riverton kids. Only a few
Bingham kids. Bingham and Riverton will be a little down, but that has nothing
to do with Herriman, it has to do with loosing lots of seniors with experience.
That being said, they will both still be good. I still root for
Riverton, but I also hope Herriman continues to get better. I know they only
lost a few seniors and have a bunch of seniors and juniors coming back with
Varsity and JV playing time. I do think they will be better than the 4-5 games
Gunner, I agree with you 100%, but if it is the Herriman parents that need to be
more realistic then that is what posters ought to say, not bringing up how these
'great' kids are being weeded out and are out of football. That was a direct
shot at the Herriman coaching staff and was completely uncalled for by that
poster. Personally, I am totally surprised that Herriman got a vote in
the poll. Yes, they made the playoffs as a first year school (compliment to the
coaches), but they only return 3 starters from a 4-7 team! Personally I would
have thrown in a vote for Olympus instead with that QB they have coming back.And I will agree with all of the other posters, Riverton is going to be WAY
more affected than Bingham by the split...I think about 75% of Herriman HS came
from Riverton HS.
Draper high is scheduled to open in 2013-14 so the incoming sophomore class will
stay intact at Alta and will have a choice to go to Draper when they are
seniors, after that I think there will be a major impact on Alta football,
likely quicker than has happened with Bingham because so many of the players at
Alta live in Draper.
Parry, It affected Riverton A LOT more than it did Bingham. Granted down the
road a lot of the growth in Daybreak may affect Bingham some. But just know
that the numbers in the Riverton little league program went from about 900 to
about 500+. Bingham dropped about 100 in numbers.
bulldog72: Herriman has nothing to discredit. They haven't done anything yet.
Nor should they have done anything yet. But last year we heard over and over
how great their coaches were, and how they would be competing for a championship
in 5A in 4 years. It takes years for a new school to compete. Riverton had all
the talent in the world when they split with Bingham, and look how long it took
them to even win a playoff game? Nobody is slagging on Herriman because they
haven't done anything yet. I give them 4-5 wins this year looking at their
schedule. Not bad for a 2nd year team in 4A. It's the parents at Herriman that
need to keep quiet.
go LONE PEAK!!!! im glad im not the only one who things they are going to be
good this year!!
Why all the talk from Bingham fans trying to discredit Herriman? Are you that
worried about a second-year school? The comment about Herriman dropping to 4A
because of competition is laughable. No one chooses what classification they
will be in, it is all done by enrollment and Herriman has the 43rd largest
enrollment according to the UHSAA. They kept the top 24 in 5A. Seems pretty
simple to me.
slcftbll....I agree the caw guy makes me cringe every time...hopefully his kid
graduated, but for the record last year I didn't take Alta, like everyone else I
knew it was Bingham's year. I also don't think it's clear cut at all this year,
Fremont and Lone Peak are both going to contend and either of those teams could
win it. Alta just has so much talent they'll definitely contend and should win
their Region. I doubt Riverton will be nearly as competitive as they were last
year, they had a great class and even though they had decent underclassmen last
year they will have a tough time winning as many games in their new region.Springville will contend with TV this year in 4A, they have a qb that looks
strong and a few kids on their OL that should dominate most of their 4A
Could someone explain to me why people in South Davis County are so obsessed
with what happened in youth football? In yourth football all you need is one kid
who is faster than everyone else and you're going to dominate. A successful
youth program doesn not equate into success in high school. I appreciate all of
the people who make the Ute Football conference a great experience asnd those
who coach, but there are some parents at certain schools who have no idea what
it takes to coach on the high school level. It is a total different monster and
the speedy kid from 7th grade often stays the same size and the plays become
more complex. I can't stand listening to certain (definitely not all) former
youth coaches act as it these boys are "their" boys. Many wonderful
people give time to the young programs and understand how it works, but there
are amny in certain schools that have some parents way out of touch with
prepsportsfan make that 2 they did not win, we beat you the last year when all
the boys where together as a group before being split up for high school, and we
played west Jordan once for the championship and lost in 4 overtimes. so take us
lightly im sure you wont have a tough time coming to the jungle this year, we
will just roll over. see you soon
Herriman Players -Flake: Family moved to WyomingLorenzen:
Still on the teamStaley: QuitCornia: QuitBeck: QuitNone of the names you mentioned were in the Top 3 on the depth chart
except for Flake. DesNews, if you allow a previous post mentioning these boys
by name then you should allow me to defend the program by mentioning these same
boys by name. They are all really nice kids but the facts need to be accurate.
My previous comment the computer crashed.....I cheer for Skyline, but went and
watched my cuz that plays for Hunter las week when they scrimmaged Timpview.
You could tell the kids were learning new schemes, maybe new positions.
Hamilton will get them going, but it may be until Region starts before they gel
and figure things out. At least that's what I hope. Timpview rolled them
easily, prob would have been 40-0. I think Hunter maybe got 2 first downs. But
scrimmages don't mean anything. Two things I thought while driving home.
Hunter has a big, good D Line (one kid didn't play) and Timpview looked in mid
season form already. I like Alta 5A and think TV will be right there again. I
know Alta is loaded. Should be a good first game when Alta hosts Timpview week
1.Oh yea....plyplx of course you would take Alta. You always do.
just keep that caw caw guy away.
Southpride56Hurricane is always in the mix, because they've built a
nice program with solid coaching and a pipeline of good kids, but don't think
you can justify ranking them ahead of Juan Diego at this point. Hurricane has
more holes to fill than JD. Pine View is very well coached and loaded
offensively. They should be top 3 along with JD and Hurricane, and at year's
end the champ is one of those three. But I disagree with Dixie ahead of Desert
Hills or that Dixie is top five. Desert Hills returns a bunch of starters,
including three all state kids on D and they could challenge the top three.
Dixie has a few stud skill kids, but they're very thin elsewhere. I do agree
with your obvious point, however, that Region Nine is the best 3A region in
Bingham pratice's year around? Isnt that against the rules, I think you mean to
say they condition year around. There is a dead space where they can't practice
3A Rankings1. Pine View2. Hurricane3. Juan Diego4.
Dixie5. Desert Hills
Wasp Alum: Not so sure Juab is all that "loaded" and
"talented". They looked pretty good at times and pretty bad at times
at five star camp. Anything can happen with coach Bowring though. Boys of
fall: Enterprise did look quite good at camp. They will be a tough out this
year. Sad that the UHSAA chose to break up the most evenly matched region in
high school sports last year, region 12. We will miss playing Manti, Richfield
and Emery. Here's hoping things will look the same again soon. Watch out for
North Sanpete as a wild card in 3A this year....lots of talent and good
I actually think the ratings aren't too far off. Timpview will reload, and I
believe they will be refocused. They are the favorite and should be. Highland
lost a lot up front, especially on defense, with the departure of Fakahafua,
Collins, Kafusi, and Tafisi, but they still have a lot of quality players. I
think they will be good, but I don't see them winning it without Fakahafua. East
High should be in the top 5 over Mountain Crest at third IMO. They are loaded
with talent in the trenches and have a good coach in Matich. Springville and
Bountiful belong in the top 5. Mountain Crest without Kuresa? I don't think so.
Hey guys, can i get some thoughts on 4A, who do you guys think will take the
Bingham has NEVER beaten Alta in this age group ever. Haven't really even been
close. Would be a major upset if it happened this year. Altas group won all but
one championship in the six years of little league. The big challenge for Alta
this year will be riverton. End of story. Watch and see.
No more patsy region schedule for the Miners...Thank goodness! Every week was
another boring game for the Miners. Now each region game will be exciting! I
actually think that this new region will only make the Miners stronger.No
more having to sit through a West Jordan, Kearns or Taylorsville game will be a
breath of fresh air. Maybe now the Jags will be in contention for a region
crown...what has it been 10 or so years. I can't believe that the Coach at WJ
still has a job. In a non-region game I see Bingham beating up on the Jags by
at least 50 points.Thank goodness the regions have realigned. Go
You have to see Bingham a bit like Timpview in 4-A. A program that reloads
rather than forced to rebuild. You can probably put Mountain Crest in 4-A like
that too, I don't see them slipping that much. There is too much talent there,
too much talent and tradition. I think Bingham, like Timpview, will have a
move-in or two that will make huge impacts. Not saying Bingham will win it but
it wouldn't shock me if they did, they should be in the fray for sure.
Actually Davis Co. schools police the players very effectively, having coached
in both Davis and SL counties I can back up UtahUte16 on this one.
whoisjohngalt: Don't expect Bingham to get "older" anytime soon.
They had 160 8 year old kids last year start playing in the little league. 2nd
only to Alta. So they have plenty of kids still feeding the program. As for
somebody's comment on their secondary being horrible. Actually they have some
very good corners and safeties this year. They brought up a bunch of kids from
the soph. squad to play JV and even saw some varsity time last year. So they
will have plenty of experience playing Varsity ball this year. The question
will be their QB. I'm not sold on Lail as their starting QB. But right now
that is who has the starting nod. He really does not have that good of an arm.
Lambourn better get pretty creative with his plays because this kid isn't going
to throw a lot. At least not successfully. They had some out of state kids
move into the area that are AWESOME! Kid from the Trinity Tx. program moved
into the area and is phenomenal! I still say Alta is the team this year, but
Bingham will be there to battle at the end as always.
Re: CarverShall I call the whambulance?There's nobody
three times your size. In fact, the ratio was 2.4 for 2A and 2.6 for 3A.Amazing how we all seem to whine when "that school" is the
"three timed" school in 2A, but move THEM up to 3A where it is even
WORSE for them and it's OK.Just play ball.
carver, good to see you again. I'm not too worried about those teams that
dropped down to 2A. I think many of the 2A teams will compete with them just
fine. There are a # of 2A teams that play 3A teams in the preseason anyway
and usually do all right, at least with the smaller 3A teams (In fact last year
S. Summit went to Delta & beat them 22-7. Then Delta went all the way to
the 3A semifinals.).The 2A teams would have a hard time competing with the
larger 3A teams, but against the smaller ones (in which those teams that dropped
down were classified) I think we can hold our own. Should be fun to
watch.BTW- I heard that Enterprise looked pretty good at the Juab camp.
That they were bigger than expected and played Delta tough. Any insight?
To Boys of Fall.A better question might be "will any of the smaller
schools in 2A ever win another state title in football?" Schools twice your
size is tough enough but schools three times your size? Numbers dominate
Geo guy?HUH? The rankings are in the article.......These pre-season
rankings are fun to look at. But it seems the coaches aren't nearly as
interested as we are. There is no way Bingham should be at the top of the list.
Parry is a Farce, Good point. I doubt a good coach would run kids off. Letsvesensible, Teams that build for the future at the expense of Seniors
usually fail. Most kids at Bingham and Alta do not play varsity until they are
seniors. I know this last year at Bingham was the exception as many of those
kids played as Juniors and some as Sophs, but to say 'Many' Sophs and Freshman
will play might be a stretch. If that is right, that means there must not be
very many good Seniors and Juniors, which can't be right. Don't know much about
this year's team, so I might be wrong.Geo guy, See page 2. The top 5
rankings are listed for each classification.
The 800 lb gorilla for this year all through Ute Conference was Alta. It will be
interesting to see how they fair this year as seniors.
High school football is the most raw form of sports there is. Well, at least in
Region 1 where kids play in the respective boundaries. I love HS football and
get excited every year. I still wouldn't doubt Bingham, their tradition is too
strong. I would keep an eye out on Hunter. I always thought they should
dominate football if they could just get some discipline. Hamilton should bring
some pride back to Hunter. They've got some HUGE kids out in WVC. I'd love to
see someone other than Bingham or Alta win it all and this just may be the year.
Oh yeah, GO DARTS!
Bingham...while tradition runs high and expectations are always high, this years
team will struggle! The Sr. class is not very good, and have always ridden the
coat tails of last year's class. They will have to depend on alot of
under-classmen to help them this year. With all those under-classmen playing,
there is little to no experience in many positions. They will have to rely too
much on the leadership of Afalava on defense and NO leadership on offense. The
secondary is horrible this year and the spread offensive teams will roll over
Bingham. Many Soph's and even some Freshman will see the field this year. I pick
Alta, Lone Peak & Hunter to be the favorites in 5A. Good luck to all the
KamUte, So many things wrong with your reasoning. First. " I
thought adding Herriman High would take away some of the talent." They
will. The first few years a school is open the best athletes will stay where
they can win. The athletes who would sit the bench at Bingham will go to
Herriman. That will change in a few years. Slowly as they grow up going to
elem, jr high and play on the same little league Herriman teams they will stay
and Herriman will be a contender in 5A. Bingham will fall in line with older
schools who's neighborhoods get older and student populations goes down. Sorry.
You better cherish the next couple of years. Then your ordinary.Next, " Herriman dropped to 4a to try to become more competitive."
Schools are not allowed to drop clasifications based on competitition. Only on
student enrollment. Herriman being a new school is going to have some
flucutation the first few years but will end up in 5A. Cant wait
for the boys of fall!
Just wanted to say spot on comment Binghamalum
Bingham won't repeat, they likely won't even win their region as Lone Peak could
challenge Alta and Fremont as the best in the state. Bingham can't replace the
kids they've lost. Alta has a few issues to work out but they are loaded
with talent and should win their region and compete for another state title.
Lone Peak's Chase Hansen and Talon Shumway could be the two toughest backs in
the state and if LP has any sort of O-line they'll be tough to beat. Their
defense won't be as good as last year but with guys playing both ways they will
be at least decent.Davis will compete up north but Fremont is returning
nearly everyone from last year's team and should run the table in region 1. Cottonwood has a good offense, but defensively they'll struggle to stop their
opponents from scoring. Jordan will be good on offense and as usual will be
poor on defense, too many internal issues with coaches there to take them
seriously. Brighton has a qb who's been around for 4 or 5 years and could
surprise people but I'm going with Alta and Fremont in the final.
2A thoughts & questions:1- I agree with the 2A rankings. Until
someone in 2A actually beats San Juan they deserve to be ranked #1. Will anyone
be able to beat them this year?2- My opinion is that the new 2A North
region looks to be tougher than the South. What are your thoughts? 3- Is
anyone in Blanding excitted for the trip to Enterprise?4- Why is the
closest 2A school to Millard (Beaver) in a different region?5- Of the 4
new 2A schools I feel the team with the best chance to compete for the title
will be Manti. Do you think any of the new schools in 2A will win it all?Looking forward to another good year and good luck to all the teams.
I still find it odd that Viewmont has been put in region 2. They literally have
no rivals in their new region. I wish they would have been knocked down to 4A
with Bountiful/WX, but alas it wasn't to be. I hope someone takes
down Bingham this year. They are getting to be like Skyline of the 90's and
Northridge of the early 2000's. It's just nice to see different teams do well
Love the rankings, stoked to see a whole new bingham team, wonder if Lail is
going to be there starting quarterback does anyone know? Cottonwood should be
very tough this year, cant wait for region play with LP finally playing BINGHAM,
and Chase better be ready for the top ranked player in the state at OLB for
Bingham Afalava, bring it this year again Bingham add another banner to the
school. Hope all the contruction by the football field gets done soon, and
Bingham add more seating, cant wait to see this legit ALTA team that is going to
play bingham at UTAH again because so many people want to see it, get it figured
out RIO tinto, you are middle between alta and bingham, you would have your
first sell out there with all the people to watch the football game. more then a
soccer game,everyone good luck on the upcoming year, and Skyline might win
it again because look, they are 4A
KamUte- Spot on. I thought the same thing. Some kids I watched play in Bingham
little league for years decided to go to the new school last year as Juniors.
There were also 3 Seniors that transferred over to Herriman from Bingham. A
lineman and 2 WR/DBs. I think they were solid players that helped them last
year. I personally know 5 juniors that transferred last year (Flake, Cornia,
Beck, Lorenzen, Staley). All solid athletic players. None of them are on the
team this year. From what I hear the Herriman coaches weeded them out. That
should serve as a warning to any Bingham kids thinking of going to anohter
school. Those kids could have Championship rings and been competign for playing
time and starting positions at Bingham, instead they are out of football. I did not expect to see Bingham on top of the polls to start the season
with all the chatter of how this group never won in Ute conference. It is HS now
and these kids will play with a chip on their shoulder. Maybe not as solid as
the last few years, but good enough to win this year. Good luck Miners.
No talk of the mighty Juab Wasps???? They will surprise people- they are
talented and loaded!
My 3 takes on region 1: 1. Syracuse?? Wow. Offense will always be
their problem.2. As usual Davis gets the high praise early in the
season, but needs win when it counts.3. Northridge gets nothing, as
usual they just fly in under the radar.
As a parent of Bingham athletes, I thought adding Herriman High would take away
some of the talent. It is not happening at all. Herriman dropped to 4a to try to
become more competitive. These kids around South Jordan are taught that Bingham
is King and all the kids want to stay. They practice year round and simply have
some of the best coaches. This goes for the faculty as well and the parents of
allnthe students. Great high school, great teachers that care, great support
from the community and parents. That is why Bingham competes so high in all