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Published: Thursday, July 14 2011 11:00 p.m. MDT

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Salt Lake City, UT

If Freedomworks and Lee think the people of this country are going to stand by and just watch the social safety net be decimated they've got a few things coming. There will be a massive revolt. This could be Hatch's ace in the hole, but it probably won't happen soon enough to save him (and then remember this is Utah).

Salt Lake City, UT

FreedomWorks' support for Lee and not for Hatch shouldn't be surprising at all. Yes, Hatch has done a lot of good and he USED to be conservative. But in more recent years he has sometimes buddied up to liberal senators in various big-government causes. Then he has come home and condescendingly scolded us when we disapprove of his freedom-eroding ideas.

Now he's appearing conservative again - especially after seeing what happened to Senator Bennett. But personally I don't trust him, because I don't think conservatism is in his heart any more, and I think we're naïve if we re-elect him.

I'd rather have a senator who is a principled conservative, not one who merely becomes conservative when re-election time rolls around.

Belgrade, Serbia

This is the deepest foundation of why I have such extreme distain for the Tea Party. I believe in some of what they stand for. I say this because it illustrates what the TPers lack, which is the ability to see the other side of different issues. You do not have to compromise on everything, but if you compromise on nothing you will be part of the problem, nay, THE problem that exists in Washington DC.

I admire Senator Hatch because he can see that knowledge and ideas can come from all minds, not just those deluded by one party (TP).

If you are inflexible, you will be temporary. As polls have shown, the majority of the US population are not extremists on either side. Example: only 20% of the population think the debt ceiling problem can be addressed by spending cuts. In fact, a supermajority (67%) of the nations population believe we should have tax increases as part of the plan for the debt ceiling solution.

The TPers will be short lived, but they can really make problems for the US. Look at Ross Perot. Clinton was President with 43% and 49% of the vote because of Perot.

Mililani, HI

May the Readers be reminded that these two gentlemen are not personally going at each other; its the Tea Party Organization whoever they are. I hope that these political differences brewed by this organization or certain leaders of this organization will not cause any hard feelings between these two fine leaders. I am seeing the same thing this Tea Party organization is doing to Mitt Romney and Huntsman. This wise maneuvering by the Tea Party is causing a division between these great leaders. But, does this Tea Party really care about these gentlemen or is it for a much deeper and darker political reason to get all of them out of the nations political arena because they are Mormons?
I am very weary of the DIRTY POLITICS going on in our nation. Please Help!

Walt Nicholes
Orem, UT

Hatch doesn't get it. And that is astounding to me. He has been and is a brilliant politician, but he just doesn't get it. He makes sweeping statements about what Utah politics is and what Utah politics isn't and he doesn't see that Utah politics have changed.

He has lots of money. This is reported as though it is the full answer. But he has been on the prow of the ship that has slowly been taking us to economic disaster. WIll he vote against a debt limit increase? Of course not.

Hatch has the same attitude as Bennet had: "I know better than the people." When he fails to come out of the primary then he will know that his arrogance was without foundation.

Salt Lake City, UT

Hatch's situation just underscores the need for the Tea Party to remain active in the years ahead. Nothing motivates a politican to keep the "minimal government faith" more than a threat to his re-election. Because Sen. Hatch didn't have credible opposition all these years he drifted into RINO territory.

Springville, UT

Dick Armey makes tons of money from his new profession as he and his organization use the poorly informed people who protest the government while at the same time relying on its benefits. And $13,000+ from FreedomWorks won't make any more difference than money from other sources. Yet Hatch is willing to sell his soul to the pernicious tea party. This whole situation reeks of hypocrisy and is the germination of the the seeds of tyranny. The poor tea party people are being used and they don't even know it. The winners in all this are the wealthy and the corporate interests, while the rest of us lose not only our financial position but our personal rights. The threat to this country is coming from the right, not the left.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Not too many flashs left in the far right wing pan.

David B.
Cedar City, UT

Hatch has become a dinosaur of sorts and out of touch. I'm sorry but the time has come for him to move on in life. Thou he has done things over the years it just hasn't been happening for him in the last few years and we need so new blood and ideas. The status quo has got to change now. I see that benefit in Lee now that's why I'll support him at this time. Sorry Mr. Hatch you've been a good workhorse but it's time for you to go.

Somewhere in Utah, UT

If FreedomWorks supports Lee, then it shows that it has no credibility at all.

Informed Voter
South Jordan, UT

Old school republicans have had their chance and their lack of passion for conservative principles hurt them. Voters who lament the defeat of Bennet and perhaps Hatch and who chose Obama can thank themselves. Obama's policies, appointments, and lack of love for America and our capitalistic system scares the daylights out of conservatives who have thus awaken with a vengeance. We have cause to fear for our children and grandchildren. Voting to remove old timers from Washington is our best -and apparently only - effective option!

silas brill
Heber, UT

[ FreedomWorks is ... chaired by former U.S. House Majority Leader Dick Armey. ]

Which is why I say this tea party nonsense is a poor attempt by the Republican Party to rebrand itself.

DD JayMario
American Fork, UT

Does anybody really think Jason Chaffetz would better represent Utah than Orrin Hatch? I mean, Hatch shouldn't have expanded entitlements over the past 30 years, but he seems to understand that now, and has the seniority in the senate to get a lot done. A junior senator will be pretty far down the pecking order and that wouldn't be good for Utah. Term limits don't work very well in the senate because of the benefits of long tenure.

Sugar City, ID

Would it not be s good time to review the reasons why Utah did not receive as high a rating by freedomworks as it could have? It seems to me that Utah was too much like Bedford Falls and if it were more like Pottersville it would have been ranked much higher by this "freedom" loving organization. Their version of freedom leaves such a bad taste in my mouth that I feel like eating manure to get rid of it.

Christmas Carole

Mililani Hl:I accept your opinion GLADLY and appreciate that you may still voice an opinion. Professional politicians(as I feel Hatch has become)seem to be geting closer to ending some of those freedoms. These types of leaders seem to be more interested in their personal careers than in the people. In the state I reside in, we were blessed enough to have more conservative leaders in the last election. I attribute this in great part to the Tea Party. I have attended meetings(have you?)and have discovered nothing that would encourage anything but freedom. As far as Huntsman and Romney go..they are already distant in some ways, to me. I am very glad for that. Personally, I would rather Huntsman have waited and not competed with Romney...wonder why he did that? Seems strange...

Jonathan Eddy
Payson, UT

My children and my children's children have a life of huge debt waiting for them. They are basically slaves from cradle to grave. Why? Because I trusted men like Orrin Hatch (I am as much to blame for this as he because of my blind trust). He has cared more about special interests than my children. I let him ruin my children's future while he was having fun with his friends in Washington. I'm sick about it and now I will spend the rest of my life apologizing to my kids.

But I will not let it end there. I will punish Mr. Hatch. I will scold him for being a foolish steward. Then I will fire him. Then I will do my best to fix what he messed up by finding men and women that know how to govern by Constitutional principles, just like my original forefathers did. Finally, I will continue to beg forgiveness from my family for believing in Orrin Hatch. I have no animosity toward him but I need to let him know with my vote that he let me down.

Ogden, UT

I'm surprised to read that there are only 1 million people in the tea party movement. That is only .3% of the population. There are more people than that who believe in a hollow earth populated by blue reptilians. With all the press they've received, I thought that there were about 100 million of them or a third of the population.
Most of the people involved in this movement seem egregiously uninformed. Don't they realize that cutting government means cutting jobs? Until this year, government workers felt secure enough to still be making major purchases, i.e., cars, houses, etc. I wonder how many tea party members own business and are wondering where their customers have gone.
FDR got us out of the depression by raising taxes on the wealthy and creating the WPA, aka government jobs, putting people back to work. When working people have money, they spend it and it ends up back in the pockets of the wealthy. If the government doesnt step in to keep it flowing, all of the money ends up in the pockets of just a few.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

When people get involved and learn for themselves how our elected officials have voted, they will not "need" organizations like "freedom works" to do their research for them.

That is the crux of our nation's problems. People sit back, watch the thirty-second political advertisements and make up their minds to vote for smiling Senator Hatch because he "looks like a senator". Looks can be deceiving. Mr. Obama looked great and sounded great but he is woefully inexperienced. Senator Hatch looks great and says all the right things, but just look at his ENTIRE record. He has helped cause our financial crisis. We don't need Senators who dig our financial grave. It's time for him to retire, whether "Freedom Works" says so or not.


I agree totally with Jonathan. Couldn't have said it better. We all let Hatch get away with government becoming too large and taking away our freedoms and making our country go bankrupt. It's very hard for me to have any kind word for Hatch.


So, has Hatch really swung back to the Constitutional Conservative position?
Time will tell and it will just be a few days before we can see how he votes on the raising of the national debt limit.

Will he vote to not raise it? Does it make sense to keep getting and using more credit cards when you are facing bankruptcy?

His vote on just this one issue in my opinion will tell voters all they need to know about Senator Hatch now.

I think I can safely predict that he no longer has the political courage to go against the establishment Republicans. Spend and spend, tax and tax! Its still time for a Tea Party!

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