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  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    July 16, 2011 1:20 p.m.

    @Bug off
    The Anae "let's keep trying to run the ball and only use the down and out to set up the run" factor was the biggest obstacle for BYU's recievers. No complexity of multiple crossing routes and high predictability on the majority of his passing plays kept last years predominently freshman/inexperienced sophmore team from rising above the collateral damage. I mean after 5 years it was obvious that his schematic was telegraphed to every team in the conference...as well to the non conference opposing teams. He never changed anything from day one...other than not repeating his "let's run and not take the knee so that we can allow UCLA to score when we fumble inside our own 5 yd line with 7 seconds left in the 1st half play." It was the athletic ability of these young freshmen and sophmores and the sprinkling of the few returning starters we did have last year along with Mendenhall pulling the reins on defense that pulled the season out of the basement. It's not going to be anything like last year's debolic foray...and what it certainly will be is a huge improvement that will catapult Heaps career forward.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    July 16, 2011 11:42 a.m.

    @biguteyfan
    When they hand out the 2nd annual Hedgie Awards after the Season is over...I'm sure you'll be right up there with mgr63 for both the Most Outlandish and the Funniest Dig awards....but sorry the Blog Hog Award will again go to the Namesake himself...Hedgie

  • Cougar_Independence OMAHA, NE
    July 16, 2011 8:06 a.m.

    @hedgehog

    "So in your mind you think that any game not on national TV will have no local converage? So outside of a handfull of Nationally televised games the PAC12 fan base will need to use "AM radios"?"

    What TV channel is the Montana State game on? I know the USC game is on Versus. And the only ESPN game for Utah is a gift from BYU.

    10 games on ESPN - available in 100 million USA homes!

    Utah = Pac12 hiding the worst with no national games
    BYU = Exposing the only relevant team in the state of Utah

  • Cougar_Independence OMAHA, NE
    July 16, 2011 8:02 a.m.

    @big ute fan

    "How is Jake eligible. I still can't for the life of me figure out how it is appropriate for a BYU player to hold a press conference at a bar.

    Is Jake aware that he has yet to beat a team with a winning record."

    1- Your local Chilli's had a bar, and BYU students, teachers, and fans go to Chilli's all the time! Not against BYU policy to attend a restaurant with a bar.

    2- San Diego State went 8-4 last year. One of those 4 losses were against BYU. That would be a team with a winning record who Jake Heaps beat.

    Good comment.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    July 16, 2011 12:48 a.m.

    It is not wise to suggest that BYU has a weak schedule. @MS is never easy even in a down year. TX is going to be much better than last year. They were making a transition from the spread to a pro set last year. Utah is making the same transition this year. However, both the TX and Utah defenses should be good. UCF is always pretty good. TCU has a some new players but they have had a couple of great recruiting years. And they will be playing well by mid season.

    I have often posted that I do not think Utah will be better than last year. I get a lot of flack for that.

    But

    1. Utah is making a complete overhaul of their offense. That type of transition usually takes 2 or more years.
    2. Utah lost a lot of talent to the NFL at key positions. They have had good recruiting but they are not likely to be as good on offense. The defense will take some time to jell.

    BYU has yet to prove they have solved the WR/TE problems but overall they should be better. The D should be better.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    July 15, 2011 8:40 p.m.

    When I put my passion for BYU aside, reality tells me that BYU will have a much better football team this year than last year and Utah's team will not be as strong as last year. If someone disagrees with this assessment, I would love to hear how you reach your conclusion.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    July 15, 2011 7:41 a.m.

    Nice command of last year's stats. Not relevant for this year. Like the stock brokers always say: "Previous performance does not guarantee future results."

    Both teams have a tougher schedule than last year. Lets see how they do. Predictions at this point are simply a waste of bytes.

  • T-spoon West Jordan, UT
    July 14, 2011 10:47 p.m.

    crowntown1

    "they have a young RB and QB"

    If you are referring to our third running back, then yes, we have a young RB. We have two senior RB's ahead of him this year, though it would not surprise me to see Juice get more carries than Kariya.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 14, 2011 10:34 p.m.

    It will be so great watching BYU go undefeated this year - undefeated in fall camp anyway.
    Same thing every year. Silly Cougar fans, don't you ever learn? Maybe just talk about game 1. I'll predict 0-1. I'll be back with my game 2 prediction following the completion of game 1. Probably won't be much different, but we'll still wait.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    July 14, 2011 8:19 p.m.

    MessofUte

    Let's analyze some Ute reality aka delusion.

    8-0 in 2010. We're a powerhouse and we have a #5 ranking. We're going to beat TCU in the most historic game ever played in RES. 7-47

    Next week... restart... We're still ranked and we're going to beat ND and their bench QB. 3-28

    Las Vegas... 3-26 we had our butts handed to us but by golly we're going to the Rose Bowl in our first season in the PAC 10.2 !

    We're competitive, we've won 2 BCS Bowls and we're going to get a lot of $ for this. And the PAC Network will give us a lot of exposure too!

    ... thank goodness for 700 AM and BYU for this year's coverage

    Yeah, that's a reasonable chain of thought for a Ute fan.

  • Lone Star Cougar Plano, TX
    July 14, 2011 4:57 p.m.

    Can't wait to watch BYU on TV. They are relevant. Let the haters bark at my heels!

  • Tommy2Shoes Lehi, UT
    July 14, 2011 3:49 p.m.

    Looking forward to the aerial show Heaps and Co. are going to put in Cougar Town.
    Using a recent Athlon pre-season projection the #34 Cougars get Utah (#48), UCF (#51), and the other five not considered worthy of a top 100 ranking. Cougars ought to win each of these contests and the last 5 should be blow outs. All are must wins.

    The real test comes on the road against TCU (#15) a not so neutral site, Texas (#24), Oregon State (#53), Hawaii (#67) and Ole Miss (#69). Get by both Texas teams and the rest should be icing on the 2011 cake.

    We can't really afford any losses the rest of Jake's career.

    The mighty Utes (#48, )on the other hand have a tougher row to hoe.

    They have home games against ASU (28), Wash (44), OSU (53), UCLA (61), Colo (76) and least we all forget Montana State. They could easily win all of these games.

    Their road schedule is with USC (20), BYU (34), Pitt (41), Ariz (52), Cal (54) and Wash St (85). Except for Wash St, they could easily lose the others.

    Utes will have to earn their ranking this year.

    Good luck.

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    July 14, 2011 3:45 p.m.

    I expect Jake's rating to be in the mid-160's his sophomore year.

    If he fully recovers from his shoulder injury, Jordan's rating might reach 150 this year.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    July 14, 2011 3:14 p.m.

    I simply shake my head and laugh at how clueless some fans are with their critical analysis of Jake's dramatic improvement the 2nd half of last season. Their belief that it was all attributable to "weaker competition" just shows how lacking they are in understanding the true attributes of a great college quarterback - the footwork, the release, the reads, and the football IQ.

    I guess this shouldn't be too surprising, since this is coming from the same crowd who once claimed that Marshall Henderson was better than Jimmer.

    Jake's Ratings
    Final 6 Games - 109 of 172, 1340 yds, 63.4%, 14 TDs, 3 ints, 152.19 rating

    Jordan's Ratings
    Freshman(6) - 104 of 179, 1329 yds, 58.1%, 8 TDs, 4 ints, 130.75 rating
    Sophomore(10) - 186 of 299, 2334 yds, 62.2%, 17 TDs, 10 ints, 139.85 rating

  • CRB Woods Cross, UT
    July 14, 2011 2:55 p.m.

    You're right Mesoute. While rivalry games are always a tossup and BYU played well and Utah tried to give the game away in the first half by giving BYU starting position inside the 50 4 times. It was embarassing that the worst QB in Division 1 could keep a team so close. However, it was also true that the worst QB in division 1 cost BYU the game in the first half as he repeatedly had the pall in ideal position to start and couldn't convert. That was pretty much BYU under Heaps leadership. No excuses, just a loss the same as most Utah fans were in pain twice over the last few years with very close loses to BYU which absolutely deserved to win based on their tremendous play in those games at QB etc. It is not Utah fans that keep bringing up the past its is the minority of BYU fans like you that think your program has achieved something when it has not and can't stop talking about wins against teams that aren't in the top 25.

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    July 14, 2011 2:36 p.m.

    MESOUTE

    "the Utes never dropped out of the polls completely even after back to back TCU and ND humiliations."

    Check the final AP poll -- Utah did drop completely out of the only poll the Utes cite when talking about their BCS teams.

    -----------

    Utah Man

    "How about your humiliating losses at home to Florida State and TCU?"

    BYU's didn't lose at home to TCU, BYU's game was at TCU. And unlike Utah, which was annihilated in the 1st quarter, 20-0, and didn't score until after TCU led 40-0 in the 4th quarter, BYU actually put up a fight at TCU, trailing 3-0 until late in the first half, and within striking distance at 17-3 midway through the 4th quarter.

    The biggest difference -- BYU was led by a true freshman QB who was surrounded by young, inexperienced skill position players. Utah was lead by an experienced QB, surrounded by very experienced skill position players.

    Final Scores:
    TCU at Utah: 47-7
    BYU at TCU: 31-3

    Bronco has THREE Top 15 finishes and TWO conference championships.
    Kyle has ONE Top 15 finish and ONE conference championship.
    Head-to-head they're even a three apiece.

  • CRB Woods Cross, UT
    July 14, 2011 2:29 p.m.

    So when does the test come? With 5 opponents ranked below 100? Yep that would look good on the stats for any QB that spent last year as statistically the worst QB in Division 1. How about three road games against teams not ranked in the top 50 (Hawaii, Ole Miss and Oregon State)? Nope nationally no one cares although they will likely lose at least one of these. Then there is UCF from a non-BCS conference and ranked 45th, nope. How about Texas, okay this will be an interesting test against a rebuilding non-top 25 team but again nationally its no better than beating Oklahoma which was not a top 30 team. Let me see, that leaves Utah and TCU as your highest ranked opponents and that will be both a test and a nice rivalry event. So you might as well be in the MWC except having a MAC/WAC/CUSA ESPN TV schedule is something better than the Mtn anyway. But playing teams with an average ranking of 78 is not going to get BYU anywhere besides Dallas for a Bowl even if they are undefeated. So the tests will wait until perhaps 2012.

  • crowntown1 Corona, CA
    July 14, 2011 12:57 p.m.

    If anything there are a lot of unproven's on BYU's side before you start listing everyone else's issues. Doman is unproven as a OC and they have a young RB and QB.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    July 14, 2011 12:27 p.m.

    Some of the BYU fans here have a short memory when referring to Utah. They forget we beat them when they were playing their best football last season. We handed them their only loss in their last 6 games. So don't be too cocky about September 17th. I'm expecting a good game, but not a blowout either way.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    July 14, 2011 12:23 p.m.

    Veritas,

    Don't blame Larry Scott. Utah wanted in one year sooner than the PAC-12 originally planned. To do that some sacrifices had to be made. We are not part of the existing TV contract so we have to take whatever is available. Future years will be much better as we will be full participating members in the TV deal that will take effect next season.

  • RSLJAZZBYUUTAH Syracuse, UT
    July 14, 2011 12:03 p.m.

    bigutefan | 12:02 a.m. July 14, 2011
    Las Vegas, NV
    Jake Heaps beat San Diego and even though he wasn't in the entire game against Washington that was another win.

  • Utah Man Salt Lake City, UT
    July 14, 2011 11:44 a.m.

    @ DeepBlue

    How about your humiliating losses at home to Florida State and TCU? Most Utah fans acknowledge, and do not make excuses regarding the beatdown we received at home last year at the expense of the Horned Frogs and the subsequent embarrassment at Notre Dame, however, we have been to the BCS twice and won both games in impressive fashion.

    Now that is more than Bronco and his byu experience can tout.

  • MESOUTE Wandering, Earth
    July 14, 2011 11:30 a.m.

    Swoop
    BYU played as well as they could have lat year. They were a young team, a 7-6 team. They looked horrible early against really good competition and looked good late against bad competition. Just like the Utes looked great early against horrible competition and horrible against very good competition. Your are what your record shows. I guess this type of thinking is how BYU is always a September National Championship contender. It is easy to make predictions based on "potential." And as for September 17th. I am not too concerned with that date.

  • MESOUTE Wandering, Earth
    July 14, 2011 11:22 a.m.

    DeepBlue:
    I don't know of any Utah fans that made excuses for any of those losses. But I am sure you do know some, let me give you MY perspective:
    1. 4th and 18, Blown coverage by McCain and BYU got over.
    2. George, great play by him.
    3. TCU, Notre Dame, Bozo State, all better than us last year.
    4. TCU again, better team, where is the excuse? We got pummeled by the Horned Frogs.
    5. You are wrong, the Utes never dropped out of the polls completely even after back to back TCU and ND humiliations.
    6. Scoreboard. No excuses needed.

    I do not make excuses or speak in "hyotheticals" and in "ifs."

    Frankly I am surprised your comment was not bannished by the fine Deseret News staff as it did not stay on topic of the content of the article and thus did not abide by the rules of conduct of this board. My comment did. You are not

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    July 14, 2011 11:19 a.m.

    MESOUTE

    Nitpiking last year's BYU team, won't help when U face a vastly improved BYU team, offensely and defensely, on September 17th. Heaps and every returning BYU player knows that they didn't play up to their potential last season and they'll be out to prove that this season. Belittle that all you want to, but for a rebuilding team like Utah, whose veteran team barely squeaked by a very young BYU team last year, that should have every Utah fan, ah hem, "concerned".

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    July 14, 2011 11:11 a.m.

    Bigutefan,

    "How is Jake eligible. I still can't for the life of me figure out how it is appropriate for a BYU player to hold a press conference at a bar."

    I'll type really slow so you will have a chance to understand your issues. Jake is eligible because he upholds the honor code and his grades are good. He was not a BYU student when he announced his intent to sign with BYU at Iggys. Is Iggys any different than Applebees? I'm sure you'll get a little strained trying to comprehend that one but relax and try to just concern yourself about things in your life that matter. BYU and Jake Heaps is not one of them, yet. They will be on September 17th after which you will need someone close to comfort you.

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    July 14, 2011 11:09 a.m.

    MESOUTE

    "So so hard to understand this way of thinking,..."

    It shouldn't be too hard to understand... just look back at the endless array of excuses Utah fans posted after 4th-and-18, Harline is still open, and George is still running, how Utah fans excused away those humiliating losses to TCU, Notre Dame, and Boise State, how Utah fans justified a Top 5 team being humiliated at home in the "biggest game in Utah history" and dropping completely out of the AP poll, or how the Utes were so giddy to beat a 7-6 team at home by one-point on a blocked FG -- a team that was dominated by freshmen and sophomores, and led by a true freshman QB.

  • MESOUTE Wandering, Earth
    July 14, 2011 10:27 a.m.

    "We're not a 7-6 football team. We're much better than that. We want to prove to everybody what we're capable of and be able to do it on a national scale."

    Well Mr. Heaps, you won 7 games and lost 6. That indeed would make you a 7-6 football team. How many games did the Cougars win last year in your mind sir?

    Has BYU ever lost a game in its own mind? So so hard to understand this way of thinking, this type of thinking is, as Brad Rock mentioned, of a different universe. AKA, not reality.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    July 14, 2011 9:46 a.m.

    @Honor Code
    There is no opportunity for the Cougs to go to a "silly bowl game in San Francisco" this year. So I'm not sure what you're talking about.

    If Cougs are 12-0, they will go to a BCS bowl. If they are 6-6 up to 10-2, they go to the Armed Forces Bowl. If they're 11-1, it could go either way depending on who they lose to and how many other 12-0, and 11-1 teams are available for BCS bids.

  • So. Cal Reader Escondido, CA
    July 14, 2011 9:13 a.m.

    Jake will be very solid! Let's just hope the O-Line keeps him clean! His performance and consistency improved/increased exponentially once he started taking all the snaps after Riley's injury. There's no reason to think his performance won't continue to increase. And the wide receiver corp to throw to? Exciting stuff! For those of us who have "briskly walked" the Y Mountain, I am always amazed at the "Challenge". How anyone, let alone an entire team of athletes, can run/jog up that trial is beyond me!!

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    July 14, 2011 9:07 a.m.

    bigutefan:

    thank you for pointing out all of those details. you have done a lot of homework and deserve extra credit.

  • Old Gregg Alpine, UT
    July 14, 2011 9:03 a.m.

    Wow hedge,

    bold move calling people out on their posts. You of all people should be a little patient with far fetched posts and understand when people are joking. But in a way, veritas was right. Even with my Dish package with the TOP 100 channels, I don't have versus. So the only way to get info about the Utah/USC game is on the radio.

    Remember the good ol' days when families would sit around the radio and just listne for hours...ya, I don't remember either but maybe that past time will start back up again so people without versus can listen to the game. Should be fun.

    It will be fun to watch the Cougars fight to prove themselves. If they have a good year this year (9+ wins) things should be alright for them. But if they have another 7-6 year, it might be scary for BYU in the next few years.

  • G-Swenz Providence, UT
    July 14, 2011 8:58 a.m.

    "Linebacker Jordan Pendleton, who suffered a season-ending knee injury in the loss at Utah State, has undergone two surgeries during the offseason"

    They better take them seriously this year. As much as BYU will be improved, Utah State may even be more so. I expect good years from both teams, and obviosuly BYU will be a big favorite in Provo, but...

    Just remember, everyone, and much more will be back from the team that beat BYU in Logan last year.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    July 14, 2011 8:32 a.m.

    "This will be a great season for BYU fans with big screen HDTVs, and fun for Utah fans with AM radios."

    Buster,

    So in your mind you think that any game not on national TV will have no local converage? So outside of a handfull of Nationally televised games the PAC12 fan base will need to use "AM radios"?

    All give you some time to think about your comment and await your correction.

  • hamaca Baton Rouge, LA
    July 14, 2011 8:10 a.m.

    If Chambers is eligible to rejoin the team earliest in January, how is he in the discussion for this season?

    Here's hoping both Utah and BYU are undefeated when they meet.

    To BigConfusedUteFan, forget about it.

  • Honor Code Denver, Colorado
    July 14, 2011 8:09 a.m.

    Should be a rough start out of the gates, but then after a few bumps and bruises BYU should sail right on through the WAC play and get a bid to that silly bowl game in San Francisco!!

  • Flames6 North Salt Lake, UT
    July 14, 2011 7:25 a.m.

    Bronco is excited to go to Austin, Corvallis, and Ole Miss. He may be more excited to leave and may wish the ESPN cameras were not so close up. Good luck though.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    July 14, 2011 12:42 a.m.

    Re: CougFaninTX

    The DBs might be inexperienced but we have a monster front 7. Despite the defensive backfield inexperience though, when is the last time we had several 6'0"+ guys at corner and safety that actually have some real speed? I think the DBs will be better than you think. Brian Logan started making a serious impact halfway through his first year after he learned things, and he did some pretty good things.

    The nice thing too about a 3-4 defense is all about being able to disguise where the pressure is coming from. Bronco is a defensive genius. That kind of defense is perfect for messing with the minds of inexperienced QBs.

    While Hawaii could potentially put on an air show against the Cougars, I think that by then, like you said, the DBs should be seasoned enough to keep BYU in the game. I expect BYU's defense to hold their offense a ways below their weekly average, even in the passing game.

    Go Cougs!

  • bigutefan Las Vegas, NV
    July 14, 2011 12:02 a.m.

    How is Jake eligible. I still can't for the life of me figure out how it is appropriate for a BYU player to hold a press conference at a bar.

    Is Jake aware that he has yet to beat a team with a winning record. Is he aware that the UTEP QB was wearing a cast and practically using crutches on the field and that same UTEP team had lost their last six games in a row.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    July 13, 2011 11:19 p.m.

    With Sorensen, Apo, Fuga, and Pendleton coming back (all great players before their injuries), BYU will be DEEP! And talented!

    I don't see the defense as being questionable. Not with Bronco at their helm, and certain new players coming on and injured players coming back.

    Really glad to see Chambers stepping up and taking his medicine like a man. With his speed, he could be a pretty good safety. It's VERY satisfying to see kids who trip up in life turn things around. I'm impressed with him. Maybe it'll pay off for both him and BYU.

    Going to be a great year! (If they don't forget their pickle juice for the Mississippi game.)

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    July 13, 2011 9:39 p.m.

    BYU is on ESPN 10 out of 12 games!

    Wow!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    July 13, 2011 9:11 p.m.

    I'm not as worried about the defense as some. In fact, I think the front seven may best, deepest front seven we've ever had. And with Bronco as the DC, he will get the most out of them. The DB's are inexperienced have some questions to answer, but some of the best teams we play may not have the ability to expose our DB's inexperience.

    Ole Miss - new QB. Likely to rely on the run first.
    Texas - Still a lot of questions about Gilbert's ability. Some players aren't behind him. Goodwin, one of their top WR will redshirt in 2011 to focus on track.
    Utah - How good is Wynn's shoulder after surgery? Will Chow's complex new offensive scheme be effective on week 3?
    TCU - New, unproven QB.

    If our DB's aren't up to the task, Hawaii's QB may have the most potential to expose them. Since the game is late in the season, hopefully they will be sound by this point.

    Offensively, we'll be better than we were at the end of last season and because of our youth, we'll improve each game. Other than TCU and maybe Hawaii, we'll score 50+ in every game in Oct and Nov.

  • T-spoon West Jordan, UT
    July 13, 2011 8:30 p.m.

    Captain L,

    Agreed, the defense is more of a question mark. I too hope they come out and play well. The linebacker's should be especially fun to watch!

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    July 13, 2011 7:32 p.m.

    If you are a fan of the school, you want to watch them play.

    That is why I am excited for BYU, and disappointed in Larry Scott.

    I have been with DirecTV for 15 years, and made numerous calls for them to pick-up the mtn only to be dissappointed in the quality of the picture, but we were at least able to see the games.

    I was excited for the U to get into the PAC, but the bottom line is I won't be able to watch the U play as much as last year.

    Just about every Saturday I host many friends, we eat, we talk and watch college football.

    I make it to a game, both Utah and BYU, each season to get the feel of the season, the crowd, and college football. I also usually get to the BYU-Utah game, depending on the seats.

    But I enjoy watching the games at home, eating well, watching many games, and not fighting the traffic.

    This will be a great season for BYU fans with big screen HDTVs, and fun for Utah fans with AM radios.

    I hope future seasons allow more oppotunities to watch both schools play.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    July 13, 2011 7:16 p.m.

    I think we will see a much improved team from last year. Heaps and the offense should be much improved, and the last several games last yr, they were pretty good.
    Defense is what needs to step up big time right from the start. If the D can come out and play anything like the did 2 yrs ago against Oklahoma we should be able to get off to a good start to the season. There are several tough games but none of them are games we can't win.

  • T-spoon West Jordan, UT
    July 13, 2011 6:42 p.m.

    It will be an exciting season for the cougars and Jake Heaps. The season can't start soon enough, especially with the NBA and NFL in lockout. I'm interested to see how well the cougars perform on the offensive end with all the RB's coming back along with the rest of the offense.

    Go Cougs!