@Bug offThe Anae "let's keep trying to run the ball and only use the
down and out to set up the run" factor was the biggest obstacle for BYU's
recievers. No complexity of multiple crossing routes and high predictability on
the majority of his passing plays kept last years predominently
freshman/inexperienced sophmore team from rising above the collateral damage. I
mean after 5 years it was obvious that his schematic was telegraphed to every
team in the conference...as well to the non conference opposing teams. He never
changed anything from day one...other than not repeating his "let's run and
not take the knee so that we can allow UCLA to score when we fumble inside our
own 5 yd line with 7 seconds left in the 1st half play." It was the
athletic ability of these young freshmen and sophmores and the sprinkling of the
few returning starters we did have last year along with Mendenhall pulling the
reins on defense that pulled the season out of the basement. It's not going to
be anything like last year's debolic foray...and what it certainly will be is a
huge improvement that will catapult Heaps career forward.
@biguteyfanWhen they hand out the 2nd annual Hedgie Awards after the
Season is over...I'm sure you'll be right up there with mgr63 for both the Most
Outlandish and the Funniest Dig awards....but sorry the Blog Hog Award will
again go to the Namesake himself...Hedgie
@hedgehog"So in your mind you think that any game not on
national TV will have no local converage? So outside of a handfull of Nationally
televised games the PAC12 fan base will need to use "AM
radios"?"What TV channel is the Montana State game on? I
know the USC game is on Versus. And the only ESPN game for Utah is a gift from
BYU. 10 games on ESPN - available in 100 million USA homes! Utah = Pac12 hiding the worst with no national gamesBYU = Exposing
the only relevant team in the state of Utah
@big ute fan"How is Jake eligible. I still can't for the life
of me figure out how it is appropriate for a BYU player to hold a press
conference at a bar. Is Jake aware that he has yet to beat a team
with a winning record."1- Your local Chilli's had a bar, and
BYU students, teachers, and fans go to Chilli's all the time! Not against BYU
policy to attend a restaurant with a bar. 2- San Diego State went
8-4 last year. One of those 4 losses were against BYU. That would be a team
with a winning record who Jake Heaps beat. Good comment.
It is not wise to suggest that BYU has a weak schedule. @MS is never easy even
in a down year. TX is going to be much better than last year. They were making a
transition from the spread to a pro set last year. Utah is making the same
transition this year. However, both the TX and Utah defenses should be good. UCF
is always pretty good. TCU has a some new players but they have had a couple of
great recruiting years. And they will be playing well by mid season. I have often posted that I do not think Utah will be better than last year. I
get a lot of flack for that. But 1. Utah is making a
complete overhaul of their offense. That type of transition usually takes 2 or
more years. 2. Utah lost a lot of talent to the NFL at key positions. They
have had good recruiting but they are not likely to be as good on offense. The
defense will take some time to jell. BYU has yet to prove they have
solved the WR/TE problems but overall they should be better. The D should be
When I put my passion for BYU aside, reality tells me that BYU will have a much
better football team this year than last year and Utah's team will not be as
strong as last year. If someone disagrees with this assessment, I would love to
hear how you reach your conclusion.
Nice command of last year's stats. Not relevant for this year. Like the stock
brokers always say: "Previous performance does not guarantee future
results."Both teams have a tougher schedule than last year.
Lets see how they do. Predictions at this point are simply a waste of bytes.
crowntown1"they have a young RB and QB" If you
are referring to our third running back, then yes, we have a young RB. We have
two senior RB's ahead of him this year, though it would not surprise me to see
Juice get more carries than Kariya.
It will be so great watching BYU go undefeated this year - undefeated in fall
camp anyway. Same thing every year. Silly Cougar fans, don't you ever
learn? Maybe just talk about game 1. I'll predict 0-1. I'll be back with my game
2 prediction following the completion of game 1. Probably won't be much
different, but we'll still wait.
MessofUteLet's analyze some Ute reality aka delusion.8-0
in 2010. We're a powerhouse and we have a #5 ranking. We're going to beat TCU in
the most historic game ever played in RES. 7-47Next week...
restart... We're still ranked and we're going to beat ND and their bench QB.
3-28Las Vegas... 3-26 we had our butts handed to us but by golly
we're going to the Rose Bowl in our first season in the PAC 10.2 !We're competitive, we've won 2 BCS Bowls and we're going to get a lot of $ for
this. And the PAC Network will give us a lot of exposure too!...
thank goodness for 700 AM and BYU for this year's coverageYeah,
that's a reasonable chain of thought for a Ute fan.
Can't wait to watch BYU on TV. They are relevant. Let the haters bark at my
Looking forward to the aerial show Heaps and Co. are going to put in Cougar
Town.Using a recent Athlon pre-season projection the #34 Cougars get Utah
(#48), UCF (#51), and the other five not considered worthy of a top 100 ranking.
Cougars ought to win each of these contests and the last 5 should be blow outs.
All are must wins.The real test comes on the road against TCU (#15)
a not so neutral site, Texas (#24), Oregon State (#53), Hawaii (#67) and Ole
Miss (#69). Get by both Texas teams and the rest should be icing on the 2011
cake. We can't really afford any losses the rest of Jake's career.
The mighty Utes (#48, )on the other hand have a tougher row to
hoe.They have home games against ASU (28), Wash (44), OSU (53), UCLA
(61), Colo (76) and least we all forget Montana State. They could easily win all
of these games.Their road schedule is with USC (20), BYU (34), Pitt
(41), Ariz (52), Cal (54) and Wash St (85). Except for Wash St, they could
easily lose the others.Utes will have to earn their ranking this
I expect Jake's rating to be in the mid-160's his sophomore year.If
he fully recovers from his shoulder injury, Jordan's rating might reach 150 this
I simply shake my head and laugh at how clueless some fans are with their
critical analysis of Jake's dramatic improvement the 2nd half of last season.
Their belief that it was all attributable to "weaker competition" just
shows how lacking they are in understanding the true attributes of a great
college quarterback - the footwork, the release, the reads, and the football
IQ.I guess this shouldn't be too surprising, since this is coming
from the same crowd who once claimed that Marshall Henderson was better than
Jimmer.Jake's RatingsFinal 6 Games - 109 of 172, 1340 yds,
63.4%, 14 TDs, 3 ints, 152.19 ratingJordan's RatingsFreshman(6) - 104 of 179, 1329 yds, 58.1%, 8 TDs, 4 ints, 130.75 ratingSophomore(10) - 186 of 299, 2334 yds, 62.2%, 17 TDs, 10 ints, 139.85 rating
You're right Mesoute. While rivalry games are always a tossup and BYU played
well and Utah tried to give the game away in the first half by giving BYU
starting position inside the 50 4 times. It was embarassing that the worst QB
in Division 1 could keep a team so close. However, it was also true that the
worst QB in division 1 cost BYU the game in the first half as he repeatedly had
the pall in ideal position to start and couldn't convert. That was pretty much
BYU under Heaps leadership. No excuses, just a loss the same as most Utah fans
were in pain twice over the last few years with very close loses to BYU which
absolutely deserved to win based on their tremendous play in those games at QB
etc. It is not Utah fans that keep bringing up the past its is the minority of
BYU fans like you that think your program has achieved something when it has not
and can't stop talking about wins against teams that aren't in the top 25.
MESOUTE"the Utes never dropped out of the polls completely even
after back to back TCU and ND humiliations."Check the final AP
poll -- Utah did drop completely out of the only poll the Utes cite when talking
about their BCS teams.-----------Utah Man "How about your humiliating losses at home to Florida State and
TCU?"BYU's didn't lose at home to TCU, BYU's game was at TCU.
And unlike Utah, which was annihilated in the 1st quarter, 20-0, and didn't
score until after TCU led 40-0 in the 4th quarter, BYU actually put up a fight
at TCU, trailing 3-0 until late in the first half, and within striking distance
at 17-3 midway through the 4th quarter.The biggest difference -- BYU
was led by a true freshman QB who was surrounded by young, inexperienced skill
position players. Utah was lead by an experienced QB, surrounded by very
experienced skill position players.Final Scores:TCU at Utah:
47-7BYU at TCU: 31-3Bronco has THREE Top 15 finishes and TWO
conference championships.Kyle has ONE Top 15 finish and ONE conference
championship.Head-to-head they're even a three apiece.
So when does the test come? With 5 opponents ranked below 100? Yep that would
look good on the stats for any QB that spent last year as statistically the
worst QB in Division 1. How about three road games against teams not ranked in
the top 50 (Hawaii, Ole Miss and Oregon State)? Nope nationally no one cares
although they will likely lose at least one of these. Then there is UCF from a
non-BCS conference and ranked 45th, nope. How about Texas, okay this will be an
interesting test against a rebuilding non-top 25 team but again nationally its
no better than beating Oklahoma which was not a top 30 team. Let me see, that
leaves Utah and TCU as your highest ranked opponents and that will be both a
test and a nice rivalry event. So you might as well be in the MWC except having
a MAC/WAC/CUSA ESPN TV schedule is something better than the Mtn anyway. But
playing teams with an average ranking of 78 is not going to get BYU anywhere
besides Dallas for a Bowl even if they are undefeated. So the tests will wait
until perhaps 2012.
If anything there are a lot of unproven's on BYU's side before you start listing
everyone else's issues. Doman is unproven as a OC and they have a young RB and
Some of the BYU fans here have a short memory when referring to Utah. They
forget we beat them when they were playing their best football last season. We
handed them their only loss in their last 6 games. So don't be too cocky about
September 17th. I'm expecting a good game, but not a blowout either way.
Veritas,Don't blame Larry Scott. Utah wanted in one year sooner
than the PAC-12 originally planned. To do that some sacrifices had to be made.
We are not part of the existing TV contract so we have to take whatever is
available. Future years will be much better as we will be full participating
members in the TV deal that will take effect next season.
bigutefan | 12:02 a.m. July 14, 2011 Las Vegas, NV Jake Heaps beat
San Diego and even though he wasn't in the entire game against Washington that
was another win.
@ DeepBlueHow about your humiliating losses at home to Florida State
and TCU? Most Utah fans acknowledge, and do not make excuses regarding the
beatdown we received at home last year at the expense of the Horned Frogs and
the subsequent embarrassment at Notre Dame, however, we have been to the BCS
twice and won both games in impressive fashion.Now that is more than
Bronco and his byu experience can tout.
SwoopBYU played as well as they could have lat year. They were a young
team, a 7-6 team. They looked horrible early against really good competition and
looked good late against bad competition. Just like the Utes looked great early
against horrible competition and horrible against very good competition. Your
are what your record shows. I guess this type of thinking is how BYU is always a
September National Championship contender. It is easy to make predictions based
on "potential." And as for September 17th. I am not too concerned with
DeepBlue:I don't know of any Utah fans that made excuses for any of those
losses. But I am sure you do know some, let me give you MY perspective:1.
4th and 18, Blown coverage by McCain and BYU got over.2. George, great
play by him.3. TCU, Notre Dame, Bozo State, all better than us last
year.4. TCU again, better team, where is the excuse? We got pummeled by
the Horned Frogs.5. You are wrong, the Utes never dropped out of the polls
completely even after back to back TCU and ND humiliations.6. Scoreboard.
No excuses needed.I do not make excuses or speak in
"hyotheticals" and in "ifs." Frankly I am
surprised your comment was not bannished by the fine Deseret News staff as it
did not stay on topic of the content of the article and thus did not abide by
the rules of conduct of this board. My comment did. You are not
MESOUTENitpiking last year's BYU team, won't help when U face a
vastly improved BYU team, offensely and defensely, on September 17th. Heaps and
every returning BYU player knows that they didn't play up to their potential
last season and they'll be out to prove that this season. Belittle that all you
want to, but for a rebuilding team like Utah, whose veteran team barely squeaked
by a very young BYU team last year, that should have every Utah fan, ah hem,
Bigutefan,"How is Jake eligible. I still can't for the life of
me figure out how it is appropriate for a BYU player to hold a press conference
at a bar."I'll type really slow so you will have a chance to
understand your issues. Jake is eligible because he upholds the honor code and
his grades are good. He was not a BYU student when he announced his intent to
sign with BYU at Iggys. Is Iggys any different than Applebees? I'm sure you'll
get a little strained trying to comprehend that one but relax and try to just
concern yourself about things in your life that matter. BYU and Jake Heaps is
not one of them, yet. They will be on September 17th after which you will need
someone close to comfort you.
MESOUTE "So so hard to understand this way of
thinking,..."It shouldn't be too hard to understand... just
look back at the endless array of excuses Utah fans posted after 4th-and-18,
Harline is still open, and George is still running, how Utah fans excused away
those humiliating losses to TCU, Notre Dame, and Boise State, how Utah fans
justified a Top 5 team being humiliated at home in the "biggest game in
Utah history" and dropping completely out of the AP poll, or how the Utes
were so giddy to beat a 7-6 team at home by one-point on a blocked FG -- a team
that was dominated by freshmen and sophomores, and led by a true freshman QB.
"We're not a 7-6 football team. We're much better than that. We want to
prove to everybody what we're capable of and be able to do it on a national
scale."Well Mr. Heaps, you won 7 games and lost 6. That indeed
would make you a 7-6 football team. How many games did the Cougars win last year
in your mind sir?Has BYU ever lost a game in its own mind? So so
hard to understand this way of thinking, this type of thinking is, as Brad Rock
mentioned, of a different universe. AKA, not reality.
@Honor CodeThere is no opportunity for the Cougs to go to a "silly
bowl game in San Francisco" this year. So I'm not sure what you're talking
about.If Cougs are 12-0, they will go to a BCS bowl. If they are
6-6 up to 10-2, they go to the Armed Forces Bowl. If they're 11-1, it could go
either way depending on who they lose to and how many other 12-0, and 11-1 teams
are available for BCS bids.
Jake will be very solid! Let's just hope the O-Line keeps him clean! His
performance and consistency improved/increased exponentially once he started
taking all the snaps after Riley's injury. There's no reason to think his
performance won't continue to increase. And the wide receiver corp to throw to?
Exciting stuff! For those of us who have "briskly walked" the Y
Mountain, I am always amazed at the "Challenge". How anyone, let
alone an entire team of athletes, can run/jog up that trial is beyond me!!
bigutefan:thank you for pointing out all of those details. you have
done a lot of homework and deserve extra credit.
Wow hedge,bold move calling people out on their posts. You of all
people should be a little patient with far fetched posts and understand when
people are joking. But in a way, veritas was right. Even with my Dish package
with the TOP 100 channels, I don't have versus. So the only way to get info
about the Utah/USC game is on the radio.Remember the good ol' days
when families would sit around the radio and just listne for hours...ya, I don't
remember either but maybe that past time will start back up again so people
without versus can listen to the game. Should be fun.It will be fun
to watch the Cougars fight to prove themselves. If they have a good year this
year (9+ wins) things should be alright for them. But if they have another 7-6
year, it might be scary for BYU in the next few years.
"Linebacker Jordan Pendleton, who suffered a season-ending knee injury in
the loss at Utah State, has undergone two surgeries during the
offseason"They better take them seriously this year. As much as
BYU will be improved, Utah State may even be more so. I expect good years from
both teams, and obviosuly BYU will be a big favorite in Provo, but...Just remember, everyone, and much more will be back from the team that beat
BYU in Logan last year.
"This will be a great season for BYU fans with big screen HDTVs, and fun
for Utah fans with AM radios."Buster,So in your
mind you think that any game not on national TV will have no local converage? So
outside of a handfull of Nationally televised games the PAC12 fan base will need
to use "AM radios"?All give you some time to think about
your comment and await your correction.
If Chambers is eligible to rejoin the team earliest in January, how is he in the
discussion for this season?Here's hoping both Utah and BYU are
undefeated when they meet.To BigConfusedUteFan, forget about it.
Should be a rough start out of the gates, but then after a few bumps and bruises
BYU should sail right on through the WAC play and get a bid to that silly bowl
game in San Francisco!!
Bronco is excited to go to Austin, Corvallis, and Ole Miss. He may be more
excited to leave and may wish the ESPN cameras were not so close up. Good luck
Re: CougFaninTXThe DBs might be inexperienced but we have a monster
front 7. Despite the defensive backfield inexperience though, when is the last
time we had several 6'0"+ guys at corner and safety that actually have some
real speed? I think the DBs will be better than you think. Brian Logan started
making a serious impact halfway through his first year after he learned things,
and he did some pretty good things. The nice thing too about a 3-4
defense is all about being able to disguise where the pressure is coming from.
Bronco is a defensive genius. That kind of defense is perfect for messing with
the minds of inexperienced QBs.While Hawaii could potentially put on
an air show against the Cougars, I think that by then, like you said, the DBs
should be seasoned enough to keep BYU in the game. I expect BYU's defense to
hold their offense a ways below their weekly average, even in the passing game.
How is Jake eligible. I still can't for the life of me figure out how it is
appropriate for a BYU player to hold a press conference at a bar. Is
Jake aware that he has yet to beat a team with a winning record. Is he aware
that the UTEP QB was wearing a cast and practically using crutches on the field
and that same UTEP team had lost their last six games in a row.
With Sorensen, Apo, Fuga, and Pendleton coming back (all great players before
their injuries), BYU will be DEEP! And talented!I don't see the
defense as being questionable. Not with Bronco at their helm, and certain new
players coming on and injured players coming back.Really glad to see
Chambers stepping up and taking his medicine like a man. With his speed, he
could be a pretty good safety. It's VERY satisfying to see kids who trip up in
life turn things around. I'm impressed with him. Maybe it'll pay off for both
him and BYU.Going to be a great year! (If they don't forget their
pickle juice for the Mississippi game.)
BYU is on ESPN 10 out of 12 games!Wow!
I'm not as worried about the defense as some. In fact, I think the front seven
may best, deepest front seven we've ever had. And with Bronco as the DC, he
will get the most out of them. The DB's are inexperienced have some questions
to answer, but some of the best teams we play may not have the ability to expose
our DB's inexperience.Ole Miss - new QB. Likely to rely on the run
first.Texas - Still a lot of questions about Gilbert's ability. Some
players aren't behind him. Goodwin, one of their top WR will redshirt in 2011
to focus on track.Utah - How good is Wynn's shoulder after surgery? Will
Chow's complex new offensive scheme be effective on week 3?TCU - New,
unproven QB.If our DB's aren't up to the task, Hawaii's QB may have
the most potential to expose them. Since the game is late in the season,
hopefully they will be sound by this point.Offensively, we'll be
better than we were at the end of last season and because of our youth, we'll
improve each game. Other than TCU and maybe Hawaii, we'll score 50+ in every
game in Oct and Nov.
Captain L,Agreed, the defense is more of a question mark. I too
hope they come out and play well. The linebacker's should be especially fun to
If you are a fan of the school, you want to watch them play.That is
why I am excited for BYU, and disappointed in Larry Scott. I have
been with DirecTV for 15 years, and made numerous calls for them to pick-up the
mtn only to be dissappointed in the quality of the picture, but we were at least
able to see the games.I was excited for the U to get into the PAC,
but the bottom line is I won't be able to watch the U play as much as last
year.Just about every Saturday I host many friends, we eat, we talk
and watch college football.I make it to a game, both Utah and BYU,
each season to get the feel of the season, the crowd, and college football. I
also usually get to the BYU-Utah game, depending on the seats.But I
enjoy watching the games at home, eating well, watching many games, and not
fighting the traffic. This will be a great season for BYU fans with
big screen HDTVs, and fun for Utah fans with AM radios.I hope future
seasons allow more oppotunities to watch both schools play.
I think we will see a much improved team from last year. Heaps and the offense
should be much improved, and the last several games last yr, they were pretty
good.Defense is what needs to step up big time right from the start. If
the D can come out and play anything like the did 2 yrs ago against Oklahoma we
should be able to get off to a good start to the season. There are several tough
games but none of them are games we can't win.
It will be an exciting season for the cougars and Jake Heaps. The season can't
start soon enough, especially with the NBA and NFL in lockout. I'm interested
to see how well the cougars perform on the offensive end with all the RB's
coming back along with the rest of the offense. Go Cougs!