Re: Invisible Hand: Yes, I read the recent article about Hatch and the Tea
Party. It's a good sign, but it wasn't enough to overcome my uneasiness about
him. I still don't trust that Hatch would REMAIN conservative after the
election. If he wins, he probably won't run again in 6 years, so we
immediately lose all leverage unless in his heart he's truly committed to
Yes, Hatch has done a lot of good. But in more recent years he has sometimes
strayed from his conservative roots and buddied up to liberal senators in
various big-government causes. Then he has come home and condescendingly
scolded us when we disapprove.Now he's appearing conservative again
- especially after seeing what happened to Senator Bennett. Personally, I
don't trust him, because I don't think conservatism is in his heart any more,
and I think we're naïve if we re-elect him.I'd rather have a
senator who is conservative through and through, not one who merely becomes
conservative when re-election time rolls around. To me that's much more
important than whatever "clout" Hatch may currently have.
Seniority is over-rated, especially when seniority accompanies an absence of
fighting for principle.
Did anyone read the DesNews article about a leader of the Utah Tea Party who
Hatch calls to get his opinion before every major vote? So why would the Tea
Party try to get rid of him when they have that kind of access? Hatch could be
one of the most powerful people in the senate if he is re-elected and
Republicans win a majority. If the Tea Party in Utah wants a voice in the
senate, Hatch could potentially be far more effective than a junior senator.
"J Thompson" Agreed!I would like to see Sen. Hatch
explain EXACTLY WHY he still wants to be a Senator.Is it for the
front row seating at Jazz games?Is it for the front row seating at Gen'l
Conference? (I've witnessed both)Or is it an extreme sense of
patriotism to accomplish things for his country in general and his state in
particular?I honestly don't know!Quite conceivably he
wouldn't run for office again (assuming he IS elected in 2012)so what reason
would he have to NOT vote with Democrats when faced with Senate
stalemates?I'm divided because I don't see Sen. Hatch as being
anywhere near the RINO as Bennett.
Where has Orrin been since Ted Kennedy died? What meaningful legislation has he
passed without the assistance of Kennedy? Having said this, be careful of what
we wish for. The extreme doesn't represent anyone except themselves and I know
Utahns are more reasonable than that. Placating the extreme is a major reason
for the state of things in Washington today.
Mike Richards | 6:38 a.m. July 13, 2011 South Jordan, Utah Blaming the tea party for his opposition is a ruse. Those of us who have
watched him for (36) years know that he has been ineffective. He has not rallied
the other Senators for the cause of good. He only turns into a true conservative
while he is on the campaign trail.============== Nice
rant.So tells us, as a card carrying Republican -- why do you keep voting
for him?The blood is on Your hands.[I smell a
'I have known Sen. Orrin Hatch since 1976.' - Article *'Hatch
proposes drug testing for welfare, unemployment recipients' - KSL News -
06/16/10 "We should not be giving cash to people who basically are
going to go and blow it on drugs and not take care of their own children."
- Sen. Orrin Hatch *'Sen. Orrin Hatch utters profanity about
President Obama's health care reform' - By Jamshid Ghazi Askar - DSNews -
03/01/11 '...so much so that, during a recent appearance at Utah State
University, Utah's senior senator used profane language to describe the reform
law.' *'Hatch, Republicans challenge (Bush) tax cut expiration' - By
Becky Bruce, Deseret News - 12/01/10 I do not like Hatch for many
reasons. He has served for 36 years and claims he is part of the 'solution' to
the problems we face. After serving for over 3. Decades. Hatch's first platform was term limits. I was born in 1978.
Hatch has been remarkably consistant over the years. He has always said that
the Senate needs more conservatives. The fact that he has at times compromised
with the democrats doesn't make him bad. He has diluted much bad legislation
over the years that could have been much, much worse if the democrats would have
gotten their way. A prime example of that is CHIP. CHIP is a government
program that actually works in the way intended. When the democrats attempted
to expand it a few years ago, Hatch got it defeated even though he was one of
the original sponsors of CHIP. He defeated it to keep the program as originally
intended, not expand it.If Obama gets a second term (hopefully not)
Hatch would be a good asset in the Senate. If Obama loses then Hatch will still
wield a lot of power and influence.On the other hand, when Hatch was
first elected in 1976, Jake Garn was the senior senator with a whopping 2 years
of experience. Utah didn't seem to suffer with two rookies back then.
There's no vendetta -- it's just time.
Never thought I'd see the day when Mike Richards and Esquire would be in
agreement on the same issue, or that I'd agree with them both. Apparently
Senator Hatch does have the ability to bring opposing sides together, even if
only on the issue of him being in the senate too long and too ineffectively.Senator Hatch was once referred to as the "Lion of the
Senate", but that was before he decided to blur the lines between his
conservative roots and his desire for power. His ability to be a friend too all
only brought out the old adage, "When you try to be all things to all
people, you end up being nothing to everybody."
I agree, it's time for Hatch to go. That is why I will be voting for Jim
Matheson for my next Senator.
Mr. Hatch is a very good man. He has served Utah well. At the end of this term
he will have served for 36-years. There is much to admire but there are some
difficult questions that must be asked.Why does he want to serve
another term? Some may think that that is a strange question, after all Mr.
Hatch is a politician and politicians run for office. It's in their blood.
Some call it Potomac fever. I think it may be more related to pride. Mr. Hatch
seems to look down on anyone who wants to run for that office. He gives us the
impression that he thinks everyone else is somehow inferior to him. He gives us
the impression that he thinks that he is the only person in Utah who can sit in
that chair and hold the title of Senator.I see that as coveting the
office. Between pride and coveting, he has disqualified himself for service.Perhaps the more important point is that he falters when he answers
simple questions. Listen to him on radio interviews. It is clear that he is
easily confused.It's time to send someone else to Washington.
You're a business man and Hatch devotes tons of time to businesses in the US.The problem is he's forgotten that he represents Citizens (real people)
and that businesses are NOT people.
There will come a day when he has to be replaced. No one lives forever. What
happens then? Are we just "kicking the can" down the road. Are we
just putting off the inevitable? He can't serve forever. Someday
someone will have to take his seat.The time to do that is now. He
is not the only person in Utah who is qualified to be a Senator. He is not the
only civic minded citizen. He is not the only person who can act on behalf of
Utah. He is not irreplaceable.It's not the tea party that thinks he
has served long enough. It's the average citizen, people like me, who
appreciate what he has done, but know that thirty-six years is sufficient time
to serve the State.Blaming the tea party for his opposition is a
ruse. Those of us who have watched him for years know that he has been
ineffective. He has not rallied the other Senators for the cause of good. He
only turns into a true conservative while he is on the campaign trail.It's time for a new Senator from Utah.
My problem is that Hatch changes his skin whenever it is self-serving. His
latest efforts to identify with the tea party are disheartening and show a lack
of principle and integrity. Unfortunately, Utah will likely elect someone far
more conservative, which harm our interests even more. The pendulum has swung
too far to the right.