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Published: Monday, July 11 2011 5:33 p.m. MDT

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Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

Obama, don't cave in, raise the taxes on the rich, make them pay taxes also. They are nothing more then tax cheats. For decades, officials have been using poor methodology to gauge living costs, which makes it convenient for politicians to manage budget deficits. The result is that the costs of living are understated, which means social security and other checks are smaller and therefore cover a lot less than what many feel they should be. Lower inflation rates look good, and lower paychecks to the nation's seniors looks good, too. While many are feeling the squeeze of higher prices at the gasoline pump and grocery store, core inflation rates, which are stripped of volatile food and energy prices and key for setting interest rates, remain low enough not to merit changes from currently loose monetary policies. Now a significant faction of the tea party movement is prepared to revolt against any GOP deal to raise the debt ceiling even if it is revenue neutral and cuts trillions from federal spending. But the fractious tea party movement actually consists of thousands of loosely affiliated groups. They generally support constitutionally limited government, but don't always agree on specific policies.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Dear Brother Chuck. News flash for you! The "rich" are paying nearly 80% (that's .80 out of every dollar) the government collects in income taxes while almost 50% of Americans pay NO federal income taxes at all! Saying the rich are not paying taxes is Democrat baloney and worse,it is a lie! Even if the government confiscated 100% of everything rich people have, it still could never pay for all the entitlements we are spending our children's money on!

George
Bronx, NY

@mountainman
the gap between the rich and the rest of the country has grown to record highs in term of both income and life expectancy. you can blow all the hot air you want but the fact remains the tax cuts that Bush handed down have done nothing to improve the economy and only furthered the cause on inequality in our country.

Noodlekaboodle
Salt Lake City, UT

@MountanMan
That is an out and out LIE. The rich simply aren't paying 80% tax. Also to all republicans, we had these low tax rates at the start of the recession and they haven't created any jobs. Even before the recession there was very minimal job gain. I guess what i'm saying is that we did it the repulicans way. Where did that get us? In two wars, One bailout, a massive increase of our debt, and the near collapse of the economy. Remind me why i'm supposed to listen to anything the republicans think is a good idea?

williary
Kearns, UT

Each of these Republicans now claiming they cannot vote to raise the debt ceiling, voted to raise said ceiling 7 TIMES DURING THE GEORGE W. BUSH PRESIDENCY.

They are fed up with Obama spending to try and save American jobs, fix Health Care, basically spending to get us out of the hole Republicans left us in.

Yet, these same "mavericks" voted 7 TIMES to raise the debt ceiling while they were in control, with no stipulations. The fact that a yearly surplus was turned into huge deficits spent not on the American economy but on 2 wars, was never a breaking point to Boehner, Canter and the rest of the Republicans who voted for the measure all 7 TIMES.

How anyone takes a word these clowns say seriously is beyond me.

They are once again showing their true colors.

They would risk permanently damaging the American standing in the world to have President Obama fail.

Yeah, true American mavericks.

They've acted like children since Obama took office, and apparently will stand for nothing to see him fail. Along with America.

A Guy With A Brain
Enid, OK

Wow.

Only fools believe the wealthy are not paying their fair share of taxes.

Don't believe me? No, of course you don't.

So you're so confident you're right that doing a little research on Google won't scare you, will it?

Go look at who's paying the majority of taxes, the wealthy or the poor? Now go research what percent of Americans are not paying ANY income tax. Come on now, YOU made the claim, go google it and see for yourself. I already did...

George
Bronx, NY

@A guy with brain
you mean the same people that take the vast majority of wealth out of the system are being asked to pay the majority of the taxes? Maybe if they paid their workers real wages and did not ask for handouts from the government instead of relying on the government to provide them with tax payers money in handouts and provide medicaid and food stamps to their workers to maintain their healthy work force they would not have to pay so much in taxes but as long as they are taking so much out of the system and demanding wee cover their labor expenses then they get to pay more taxes.

Igualmente
Mesa, AZ

Sen. McConnell is right...there will be no serious debt reduction until Obama is out of office.

dalep2u
Herriman, UT

Guy with a Brain and Mountainman...

The system you describe as conservitives is very...and I do mean VERY simular to the fudeal system used in Europe back when the Kings and Dukes and all the ROYALTY had all the money, all the land and let everyone eat out of THEIR hands. Had they shared that wealth then MILLIONS and MILLIONS of lives of those not as fortunate would have prospered. But no...When you make a hundred Million dollars, and you use coporations, write offs, tax exclusions and who knows what else to write down your taxable risk....you SHOULDN"T HAVE to pay more...it's un-American!!! NEWS FLASH...We don't believe in the feudal system in the good old USA. We just want a chance to have a job, earn a decent living, pair a proportionet fair tax and have a chance to retire without having to apply as the WalMart Greeter!!!

Only someone who is RICH would get on here and claim the rich don't have an obligation to society to share some of their wealth. They'll still be Rich....but they may have to give up one of the Villa's in the Bahamas...

Igualmente
Mesa, AZ

Bully pulpit indeed...Obama now says he cannot guarantee social security checks will go out on time August 3rd!

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Makes you wonder why Obama is so un-movable on tax increases. The man absolutely is obsessed with raising taxes on "his evil rich" along with corporations as well. Obviously Obama has some far left supporters who are key players in his bid for re-election and they are demanding these tax increases to fund their programs. There is no reason why budget cuts with no tax increases won't solve the problem here (as proposed by the GOP) but Obama won't hear of it. The GOP took control of the House last November mainly because people were sick of Obama and his far left cronies ramming down their high tax high spending agenda so I seriously doubt that there will be any compromise to raise taxes by the GOP.

xscribe
Colorado Springs, CO

Count me as one of the fools. I don't disagree that the wealthy pay more taxes than the average Joe; however, I also believe that they are in a position to pay a heck of a lot more without harm to themselves or their businesses. As some posters alluded to earlier, the gap between the rich and the poor continue, and I believe this is exactly what the republicans want. Funny that a lot of people who vote for republicans are probably the same ones that suffer from their policies.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

I think the Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said it best yesterday when he said "I have little question that as long as this president is in the Oval Office, a real solution is unattainable". McConnell is 100% correct. Obama is THE ROAD BLOCK to America's economic recovery and future prosperity. The 2012 election is probably the most important election in the past 100 years because the financial future of all of us - liberal or conservative - is at stake and Obama's losing agenda must be reversed which will ONLY happen if Obama is removed from office. The man stands in the way of prosperity for all of us.

williary
Kearns, UT

@patriot

Obama is the only thing standing in the way of America and another chance for Republicans to run Americans into the ground even further.

We saw the financial future they created. A near depression. Homes and retirements down the drain. Jobs gone.

Yeah, lets put those guys back in power!

I find it amusing you're so angry at Obama for not fixing the Republicans mess fast enough. The only ideas Republicans have is to reset everything circa 2006 and they have no doubt it will turn out better!

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

Beware of the attempts to make raising taxes on the "rich" a class warfare scenario.

NOBODY trusts the government much to use the money they already have wisely.

Why should we trust them to use the "new" taxes from the "rich" any better?

Its not the revenue that's the problem, its the SPENDING!

worf
Mcallen, TX

It's easy! Everybody pay a set percentage to taxes. Rich or poor. Doesn't matter, and no deductions.

Obama says "we must reach agreement". Did our country reach agreement on:

1. giving foreign aid?
2. paying for abortions?
3. allowing half of our people to not pay income taxes?
4. provide free breakfast and lunches in schools?
5. pay ten million dollars per day in an undeclared Libyan war?
6. restricting oil drilling?
7. allowing the Federal government to take control of a third of Americas lands?
etc!

Obamas change and hope did not include agreements with we the people.

TRUTH
Salt Lake City, UT

George.....You need to get some fresh air ....get out of new york....the rich are not taking handouts?...But the bottom 50% of wage earners are! And more than they put in!

Wildcat
O-town, UT

The rich are not taking handouts you say? GE no taxes paid, Newscorp (Fox), sent rebates, Exxon, more money in subsidies than taxes paid. Whatev.

Wall Street almost goes broke and Bush and Congress (Obama continued it) can't rush fast enough to give them a blank check with no conditions. Obama lends auto industry money (most of it repaid with interest), and Mittons claims that auto industry should have declared bankruptcy.

Corporations can declare bankruptcy easier than you or me. Jet owners can write off depreciation before hand on their taxes, why can't we write off depreciation on our cars before the mileage? This is fair? Yeah, those mooching war widows, 9-11 responders, veterans, teachers, firefighters, police, public servants (you know the fabric of society) are the real villains. Let's go put the squeeze on them and leave the Bernie Madoffs of the world alone, in fact, let's take the increased money from robbing the working people's social security, pensions, medicare, and unemployment insurance and give it to the upper crust.

Like Mr Burns said when Homer told him he was the richest man he knew, "True, but I would give it all away for a little more."

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

re:williary

Do you recall who was in charge of the banking committee from 2006 - 2008? Yes that's the committee who oversaw Fanny and Fredie Mac. It was BARNEY FRANK and CHRIS DODD!! Both DEMOCRAT'S. Yes these two wonderful watchmen were giving rosy projections for Fanny and Fredie even as these two institutions were on the verge of collapse. FOR TWO YEARS!! Also, who was it that was SCREAMING for the easing of regulations and saying that every American had the right to own a home?? Again, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and they kept this campaign up for 8 years until they got their way in 2006. Please Please don't even try to suggest that the financial mess was all the GOP's fault because that is simply not true. Both parties shared in that ugly mess. I also find it interesting how you completely ignore the damage Obama has done over the past three years to the US economy. The Mt Everest sized debt that the man has created along with the job killing tax hikes for Obamacare have kept us in recession and are THE reason unemployment is still over 9%. Check your facts first!

FDRfan
Sugar City, ID

This is pay back time for the last 100 years of progressive social programs. The top 3 to 5% know they will never again get an opportunity like this and they are pulling out stops. Sort of like the mining disaster in Utah.

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