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Published: Thursday, July 7 2011 1:16 p.m. MDT

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Flying Finn
Murray, UT

Sounds like President Obama is getting ready to cave in again like he did in negotiations with Israel. He is a paper tiger. The Palestinians found that out, the Israelis knew it from the beginning, North Korea knew it before he was elected, and now even the slow learners in the United States are starting to see the light.

TRUTH
Salt Lake City, UT

So much for a Strong, Liberal POTUS who represents the Liberal Democrats?

Entitlements and Unions are soon to be reminants of the past!

Vote for Freedom~

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'Obama acknowledged that the ultimate agreement will not satisfy partisans on both sides, but he said the deal would require both Republican and Democratic votes to pass Congress.' - Article

Yeah? And when has that happened with the Republican party?

'When Democrats reclaimed the Senate majority in the 2006 midterm elections, cloture filings shot up from 68 in 2005-2006 to a record 139 in 2007-2008.'

'The Rise Of Cloture: How GOP Filibuster Threats Have Changed The Senate' - Ben Frumin and Jason Reif - Talking Points Memo - 01/27/10

I say, shut it down.

Let the Republicans who want to STOP our country show themselves for what they are.

*'Memories of 1995 haunt GOP as shutdown talk grows' - By Charles Babington - AP - Published by DSNews - 02/20/11

WASHINGTON Few memories haunt Republicans more deeply than the 1995-96 partial shutdown of the federal government, which helped President Bill Clinton reverse his falling fortunes and recast House Republicans as stubborn partisans, not savvy insurgents.

KM
Cedar Hills, UT

Pagan

"pubs want to STOP our country?" I think you are on the wrong team. Cloward, Piven and Obama would like to stop (change) our country. Not those rascally repubs. Although some repubs who have statist progressive leanings are no better.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

From what I've been reading it seems that there will be some adjustments made to Medicare and Social Security, in exchange for tax revenues through getting rid of some loopholes and subsidies.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

"Entitlements and Unions are soon to be reminants of the past!"

Overdramatic much? Liberals aren't stupid, they're not going to vote for a massive change to medicare/social security. It'll be something small. Like medicare would be adjusted to have prescription drugs be bought at the rates the VA uses rather than the much nicer deal the Republicans got half a dozen years ago for the pharmaceutical industry. Social security would be something like the article notes, a slower percentage gain in the amount recipients get. It's sorta necessary eventually considering our decreasing ratio of workers to retirees.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: Pagan | 2:51 p.m. July 7, 2011

The liberals said Wisconsin voters would punish Republican Gov. Walker for taking away state worker's collective bargaining rights by voting for Democrat Kloppenburg for Wis. Supreme Court. They were wrong. The Republican got the job.

Voters gave the House to the Republicans in 2010 and if the Democrats don't get their act together they will lose the Senate and White House in 2012. Pagan may not know it but Obama is in trouble.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'I think you are on the wrong team. Cloward, Piven and Obama would like to stop (change) our country.' - KM | 3:27 p.m.

Right.

Because 'change' must REALLY mean 'stop.'

*'Republicans kill Senate jobless aid measure' - By Andrew Taylor - AP - Published by DSNews - 06/24/10

*'Senate Republicans - again - kill bill for jobless aid' - By Stephen Ohlemacher - AP - Published by DSNews - 06/30/10

*Republicans block small business lending bill' - By Stephen Ohlemacher - AP - Published by DSNews - 07/29/10

(After 2010 Midterms)

*House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits By Andrew Taylor AP 11/18/10

*John Boehner(Republican House speaker): If GOP Cuts Cause Federal Job Losses...'So Be It' - Huffington Post - 02/15/11

And yet:

"According to the Pew Economic Policy Group, an extension of all of the Bush tax cuts will cost $3.1 trillion over ten years, once the costs of servicing the debt are factored in."

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'Pagan may not know it but Obama is in trouble.' - Rifleman | 3:39 p.m.

I'm tremblen in my booties.

Because Rifleman said it...

*'Poll: Less than half of GOP primary voters satisfied with 2012 field' - By Mark Murray - NBC News - 06/15/11

*Poll: Obama leads all potential GOP 2012 nominees By David Lightman McClatchy Newspapers Published by DSNews 06/28/11

WASHINGTON Only 36 percent of registered voters say they'd definitely vote for President Barack Obama next year but he still tops all Republican challengers in one-on-one matchups, according to a new McClatchy-Marist poll.
The survey also found that Republicans and Republican-leaning independents remain highly uncertain about who they want to face Obama. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney leads the field, but with only 19 percent.

albu1595
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Pagan:

I read every day your anti-republican rants. Here is the truth: Blame is not going to fix this problem. There is plenty of blame to go around. Democrats will have to Cede entitlements and Republicans will have to be willing at tax overhaul. Period. I've never been an Obama fan but I respect that he is at least trying to bring both sides to the table. We can't just keep making temporary half measure solutions....We have to have both parties willing to bring EVERYTHING to the table.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: Pagan | 4:23 p.m. July 7, 2011
"I'm tremblen in my booties."

There may be more truth in your statement than you are letting on. The Republicans are playing hardball and in his talks with Israel Obama proved that he doesn't have what it takes to carry the day.

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